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Depression resembles cancer
    #18802404 - 09/05/13 07:57 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

They are both physical malfunctions of the body. They are both deadly, potentially treatable and can happen to anyone.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18802412 - 09/05/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802413 - 09/05/13 07:59 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I agree. Depression is like a cancer. It's more debilitating than cancer IMO


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802419 - 09/05/13 08:01 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #18802424 - 09/05/13 08:02 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802427 - 09/05/13 08:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

But do you think depression can lead to cancer?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: psi]
    #18802428 - 09/05/13 08:04 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

And has nothing to do with one being an actual disease.
Ok, this thread, I'm done with.
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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18802433 - 09/05/13 08:05 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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volcomstoner said:
:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?



I didn't say they are the same but I can compare if I want to and there is nothing you can do about it how you like them apples :tongue:


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18802436 - 09/05/13 08:07 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

If Walter White had depression, nothing would've happened.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: smack]
    #18802450 - 09/05/13 08:16 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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And has nothing to do with one being an actual disease.



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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802473 - 09/05/13 08:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.




Yeah, there really isn't an objective diagnosis of depression, although in truth, there is some degree of subjective diagnosis in cancer grading/staging as well.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: psi] * 3
    #18802479 - 09/05/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psi said:
One key difference is that diagnosis of cancer is far less subjective.



Yeah. And those without cancer don't say to those with cancer 'Quit being a pussy and just walk it off.'


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: badchad]
    #18802481 - 09/05/13 08:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

There are definitely changes happening inside depressed brains but its not possible to assay them diagnostically. Anything from chromatin alterations to signal transduction fails and beyond.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802489 - 09/05/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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There are definitely changes happening inside depressed brains but its not possible to assay them diagnostically. Anything from chromatin alterations to signal transduction fails and beyond.




Agreed.  But when hundreds of different labs are publishing hundreds of different theories as to wtf is going on, it really adds up to a whole lot of speculation and guessing.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802490 - 09/05/13 08:39 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

What I'm often wondering, can depression actually be cured? I don't mean treated, but cured, like gone forever? Or does it always linger somewhere just waiting for an opportunity to spring back up?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Konyap]
    #18802513 - 09/05/13 08:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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aiyobro said:
:derail:





Turn back now.  This thread contains nothing good.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich]
    #18802552 - 09/05/13 09:12 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

psilocybin is known to help with depression


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Brakepad] * 3
    #18802568 - 09/05/13 09:15 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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psilocybin is known to help with depression



Or exacerbate certain types of it.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18802626 - 09/05/13 09:45 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

The fatality of the diseases is not comparable at all. Cancer, if left untreated, will definitely result in passing away. On the other hand, many people leave depression untreated but still have enough will to live healthy lifestyles and while sad will remain living.

Cancer is more of a black and white thing.

Depression is completely in the gray.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish]
    #18802631 - 09/05/13 09:48 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

True, but others do end up killing themselves. The fatality rate is definitely not as high as with cancer but it is not negligible either.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish] * 1
    #18802648 - 09/05/13 09:55 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The fatality of the diseases is not comparable at all. Cancer, if left untreated, will definitely result in passing away. On the other hand, many people leave depression untreated but still have enough will to live healthy lifestyles and while sad will remain living.

Cancer is more of a black and white thing.

Depression is completely in the gray.



I think the true nature of serious depression is generally underestimated. There are worse things than death for example having the desire to die but not the energy to actually do something about it.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish]
    #18802652 - 09/05/13 09:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Dankfish said:
The fatality of the diseases is not comparable at all. Cancer, if left untreated, will definitely result in passing away. On the other hand, many people leave depression untreated but still have enough will to live healthy lifestyles and while sad will remain living.

Cancer is more of a black and white thing.

Depression is completely in the gray.



Most people with severe depressed don't end up living healthy lifestyles. It's very often fatal, and it impacts family members including children who can't understand why their parents feel a certain way and aren't healthy which can lead to depression or developmental issues later in life. It's not just being "sad" it's being completely devoid of normal feelings of life. You're incapable of the happiness or even simple contentment that others feel because of your brain chemistry. You feel numb, things don't feel real.

It's not grey, we just can't crack open the brain and measure chemicals yet. Depression is still a valid diagnosis, it's still pretty black and white you just have to know what to look for. There's just about as much trial and error in depression treatment as there is with cancer (especially once it's progressed to a certain stage).


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich]
    #18802747 - 09/05/13 10:29 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What I'm often wondering, can depression actually be cured? I don't mean treated, but cured, like gone forever? Or does it always linger somewhere just waiting for an opportunity to spring back up?




I think the short answer is "yes" some cases of depression remit indefinitely.

It brings into question though the very definition of "depression" and how its diagnosed.  If you look at DSM-V, most symptoms are relatively vague:  What is a "depressed mood", which you have to have "most of the day, nearly every day" to account as a symptom.  How "recurrent" do you need to have "thoughts of death" to fulfill that criteria?  10x/day, once a week?, what constitutes a "diminished ability to think"?

ICD-10 classifications are nearly as subjective/complex.  And in clinical trials, "depression" is usually assessed via the HAM-D questionnaire, which also exists in various "modified" and/or truncated forms along with other odd questionnaires.

From a clinical sense, it makes diagnosis difficult.  Compound the difficulty in diagnosis with all of the vast scientific literature linking everything and its mother to depression or viewed as a "marker" of depression, and it makes the question of whether depression can be "cured" almost impossible to answer.


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...most subjects find the experience valuable, some find it frightening, and many say that is it uniquely lovely.

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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: smack] * 1
    #18802780 - 09/05/13 10:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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If Walter White had depression, nothing would've happened.




HAHAHA ow my sides...


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: GloomShroom]
    #18802824 - 09/05/13 10:56 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Maybe cancer and depression are both a result of forgetting oneself

Because if you are yourself you love your body, and it doesn't get sick as much
Then you probably wouldn't smoke everyday i.e.

Stress makes us forget ourselves too without knowing it, stress makes us careless about ourselves

That's why meditation is important, or living in a stress free environment

I think most illnesses are self created(a result of soul loss)
the soul is perfect, our bodies are a mirror of our souls state


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: lessismore]
    #18802850 - 09/05/13 11:03 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I'll be honest with you guys, I would trade my depression for a cancer if it meant that my depression would completely disappear. I'd rather do chemo for a while than live with depression all my life.

Luckily for me, I found the right meds, so technically my depression is cured.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Patlal] * 1
    #18802925 - 09/05/13 11:20 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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I'll be honest with you guys, I would trade my depression for a cancer if it meant that my depression would completely disappear. I'd rather do chemo for a while than live with depression all my life.

Luckily for me, I found the right meds, so technically my depression is cured.




I was depressed everyday for 5 years, very stressed everyday for 10 years(no regular sleep in that period, and overeating etc.), but I had forgotten myself for >10 years , first partially then fully

Now I can never be depressed again, unless stress gets to control me again

My cure was psychedelics (LSD,mushrooms,salvia) , haven't taken them in approx 4 months, and 5-6 months before that, it lasts well.

But try to avoid stress with nature,meditation,minimum hours,doing what I love :-)
and by searching for a quiet place to live

The depression was so severe I almost destroyed myself, ate fastfood everyday for past 10 years, stopped drinking water(only drank coke everyday), got kidney stones/high bp/gaut/bad liver etc... went to the hospital numerous times (was only 25), had gained like 70 pounds...
was usually always a low healthy weight, lower than average weight, before I was depressed

Depression is from forgetting oneself often

The funny thing is I was sure I knew who I was....
But I was never happy.. not one single day, I just appeared so

Had forgotten most social activities, and anything fun in life, it was replaced with working& studies as my only enjoyment in life

Turned out I hadn't known myself in >10 years

When you are yourself, everything you see makes you happy, everything around you you appreciate, you love the world that you see like first time you saw it
happiness everyday from inside, and you know what makes you happy so you can appreciate it
you love every part of yourself as well, appreciate your body


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: volcomstoner]
    #18802992 - 09/05/13 11:41 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?




I agree. His comparative conclusion could be made with many different illnesses. He doesn't prove anything.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18803035 - 09/05/13 11:49 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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They are both physical malfunctions of the body. They are both deadly, potentially treatable and can happen to anyone.



And a bicycle is like a car. Both have wheels and are used for transportation and they tend to break down at some point.

If you take enough distance, everything starts to blend into everything else. The question is: does that still give any useful insight? Usually it doesn't.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: XUL]
    #18803144 - 09/05/13 12:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mio said:
Maybe cancer and depression are both a result of forgetting oneself

Because if you are yourself you love your body, and it doesn't get sick as much
Then you probably wouldn't smoke everyday i.e.

Stress makes us forget ourselves too without knowing it, stress makes us careless about ourselves

That's why meditation is important, or living in a stress free environment

I think most illnesses are self created(a result of soul loss)
the soul is perfect, our bodies are a mirror of our souls state



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volcomstoner said:
:lolwut:
How the fuck are you going to compare depression to cancer?




I agree. His comparative conclusion could be made with many different illnesses.



So what you are saying is that one feature of a disease resembling similar feature or outcome in an unrelated disease is itself an unrelated feature because it originates from two different health-related conditions?


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He doesn't prove anything



:facepalm: I see that the point of this comparison has evaded your senses oh wise one. It was never my goal to prove that depression is somehow resembling cancer outside the simple frameworks of my comparison.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: koraks]
    #18803155 - 09/05/13 12:20 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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The question is: does that still give any useful insight? Usually it doesn't.



Yes, because it raises awareness about some general misconceptions about depression. You can't shake it off at the pub with a couple of pints and friends, but hey you can't do that with cancer either which is not technically incorrect but points to the persistence of the original problem.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty]
    #18803203 - 09/05/13 12:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

You need to seriously stop drawing comparisons between the two. They are completely different. One creates deadly and spreadable tumors. One is chemical neuron balance. They are not the same, quit trying to lump them together because one, whether it is hard to cope with, is much more fatal than the other and much more difficult to treat.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish]
    #18803214 - 09/05/13 12:40 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

This thread stinks of pretentious college kid.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Snotfish]
    #18803217 - 09/05/13 12:41 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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They are not the same



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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 1
    #18803302 - 09/05/13 01:05 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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koraks said:
The question is: does that still give any useful insight? Usually it doesn't.



Yes, because it raises awareness about some general misconceptions about depression. You can't shake it off at the pub with a couple of pints and friends, but hey you can't do that with cancer either which is not technically incorrect but points to the persistence of the original problem.



If that's the purpose, then the tactic will backfire. It'll anger cancer patients for having their deadly disease compared to something that is decidedly less lethal (generalizing across all types of cancer and all types of depression). It may also anger patients suffering from depression, for basically the same reason. And to skeptics, you are only the more vulnerable in your argument because once you get past the superficialities in the OP, it becomes really difficult to uphold a credible argument that the two are comparable.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: mellowparty] * 2
    #18803311 - 09/05/13 01:08 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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They are both physical malfunctions of the body. They are both deadly, potentially treatable and can happen to anyone.





:mad:

Rectal prolapse is like depression too, they're both physical malfunctions resulting in you being unable to handle your shit.

Seriously though an OP should have more content than that.  Theres a whole encylopedia of ailments that fit that description, making the two that were picked entirely arbitrary in absence of a conrete topic.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18803387 - 09/05/13 01:35 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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But do you think depression can lead to cancer?



It totally can. Although you can get cancer unluckily anyhow, the happier life you live the less chance you have to get it, stress just cripples you sometimes, and makes your body do all sorts of funky stuff:peace:

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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Shortknight]
    #18803455 - 09/05/13 02:00 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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It was never my goal to prove that depression is somehow resembling cancer outside the simple frameworks of my comparison.




On this forum you should expect that some of us will respond in an intelligent manner as we may inquire to more than a hypothesis and request some data or a theory. You have a hypothesis, so what now?

How would you prove this to us through experiment?


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: XUL] * 1
    #18803506 - 09/05/13 02:13 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Thinking about cancer, gives you cancer.  Not thinking about cancer, gives you more cancer.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #18803585 - 09/05/13 02:36 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

I think this thread has given me both depression and cancer.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Mush4Brains]
    #18803589 - 09/05/13 02:37 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

Try sitting a little farther away from your computer.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Asante]
    #18803706 - 09/05/13 03:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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mellowparty said:
They are both physical malfunctions of the body. They are both deadly, potentially treatable and can happen to anyone.




Rectal prolapse is like depression too, they're both physical malfunctions resulting in you being unable to handle your shit.





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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich] * 2
    #18804560 - 09/05/13 06:44 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What I'm often wondering, can depression actually be cured? I don't mean treated, but cured, like gone forever? Or does it always linger somewhere just waiting for an opportunity to spring back up?



meditation, exercise, diet.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18807078 - 09/06/13 11:35 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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meditation, exercise, diet.



Bollocks to the lot of it. It can help to an extent, but is not a cure. Maybe all of those combined with changing the present life situation, fixing the things you feel are depressing you the most. The problem is finding the will and the strength to do that in the first place because of depression.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich]
    #18807363 - 09/06/13 12:46 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

well if you meditate or do yoga when you feel really down, it can actually be quite a powerful and confidence boosting thing to do =) sometimes those are the best times to do it


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18807407 - 09/06/13 01:03 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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What I'm often wondering, can depression actually be cured? I don't mean treated, but cured, like gone forever? Or does it always linger somewhere just waiting for an opportunity to spring back up?



meditation, exercise, diet.




Depression is from forgetting yourself

Be active (exercise), Be social(go out meet people/someone you have something in common with), Do what you love (nature,hobbies,life goals)

Live without the need for anything (no need for drugs, no need for much food, no need for buying for happiness, no need for sex)

all that is possible with meditation / removing stress (thoughts)

you just need to be yourself, then you can't possibly be depressed

houseplants,pets,walk in nature,sit in nature,gardening,cycle in nature, run in nature, meditate, hobbies, working minimum hours + living simple lifestyle(consume less)  that's how I cured my depression , can never get depressed again I think(removing stress is the important thing)


depression is not an illness I believe, it is something we all get...... and pills are never a cure, only a temporary relief
a relief for people who don't want to make an effort themselves often
often you gotta make an effort for a while to be healthy, only yourself can maintain your own health, no doc/pill can do that
it took me a few years to overcome my depression... but now I feel so much better

psychedelics helped me a lot too, to find my true values in life that make me happy everyday

weed did the opposite... got me further from myself

you gotta do what brings happiness, if something you do makes you unhappy change direction/stop doing it  - psychedelics usually made me happy  , because I walked in nature on them / heard music I love on them , danced, appreciated everything I have etc.

and they brought long lasting positive changes(happiness everyday), now I do them every 4-6 months or so

I'm sure meditation/simple lifestyle + being active can do the same, but you gotta put in effort to it
you can cure your depression without meditation / psychedelics too, you just gotta know what makes you happy

exercising always gave me a good mood for the rest of the day (cycle in nature/run in nature) - coldn't be depressed after it

after many years I found the root cause of my stress ... living in a stressing place+working too much (70-80hrs a week for years)+not sleeping&overeating, loud neighbors, it wasn't compatible with me (always appreciated no noise, always been sensitive to noise)
avoid stress at all costs


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: Tangich] * 1
    #18810691 - 09/07/13 07:34 AM (10 years, 4 months ago)

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Tangich said:
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nicechrisman said:
meditation, exercise, diet.



Bollocks to the lot of it. It can help to an extent, but is not a cure. Maybe all of those combined with changing the present life situation, fixing the things you feel are depressing you the most. The problem is finding the will and the strength to do that in the first place because of depression.



I can only speak from my own personal experiences. I found these things to be very helpful to me. I suppose every person is different, but I think this is a good place to start.

As long as you adopt the attitude of helplessness, it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy. You gotta take steps in the right direction, even if they are only baby steps.


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Re: Depression resembles cancer [Re: nicechrisman]
    #18811453 - 09/07/13 12:39 PM (10 years, 4 months ago)

appreciate what you got

and nature

then its impossible to be depressed

accept and act instead of worry

worrying never makes sense

accept everything


nature is my antidepressive (houseplants, pets, walk in nature, sit in nature, gardening, run in nature, cycle in nature  ... its addictive but it works better than any pill ive tried :wink:
adopt it as part of a simple lifestyle, everyday

when i wake up im happy because my pets are happy  and notice a new miracle of nature each day w houseplants/nature .. :wink:
love is the opposite of depression


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