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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: cleaner]
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"One dude claims that each soul separates and half goes male half female. Later they have to meet in life, fall in love, become one, ascend to other dimension and then become fit for other spiritual duties."
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That is all about one's self.  Right now I don't know what terminology to use to label that...  [/is sister soul right?]



This is what I'd be inclined to say about it..


The soul separates...  male and female...  one gets reflected on a visual/ perception basis...  Who you see when you look in the mirror...  and the other is "hidden"...  the one you are meant to search for.


...Kinda like a giant game of hide 'n seek.  When you do your soul searching, you are looking to re-connect with yourself.



To satisfy this equation,  it then implies the following..


Every "half soul" has an opposite half that is in parallel to them.  So, every woman has a "male" half soul, and every man has a "female" half soul... [Opposites attract]..

Together, the union of each half makes the whole being...  You.



Searching for yourself is tricky business...  You need to remain open minded.  For men, they have to work with female characteristics; and women, must search through male characteristics...

It becomes evident how the idea of "gayness" can come about if a closed mind attempts to do this.


The reason many don't find themselves, is because they are not looking in the right directions.



All you are really supposed to do, is develop an understanding of what you are not physically reflected as [your opposite].  This is not to say you must become the opposite.


Once you find the other puzzle piece, you see how well it fits...  a perfect fit actually.  You then make the connection...
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Now, soul mates...  This concept, to me, implies the ones with whom you "travel".  Like some others, I believe one can have several soul mates...  Some just as friends; others have partner potential.

When you can really connect with another, I'd say, you've found one of your soul mates.

I'd say, the union of soul mates is a genderless one...  Everyone has male AND female soul mates.


:grin:

 


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Dei Gratia de integro,

Veni Vidi Vici:

In Nomine Domini..

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: Deiymiyan]
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Deiymiyan said:
Now, soul mates... This concept, to me, implies the ones with whom you "travel". Like some others, I believe one can have several soul mates... Some just as friends; others have partner potential.

When you can really connect with another, I'd say, you've found one of your soul mates.

I'd say, the union of soul mates is a genderless one... Everyone has male AND female soul mates.


Exactly. A soul mate is just someone that has almost too much in common with yourself. Or possibly not having a lot in common, but just that it seems natural that you are suspossed to be with that person. There isn't only one person that can fufill that role, some can just be your friend and others your lover.. who knows? I'd just cherish the fact that I met someone like that...
Peace.



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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: cleaner]
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Cleaner:

What do you mean "matching concepts?"


Xilalba:

"I don't think newborn babies have anything I would call a soul. They're just cute floppy little bundles of reflexes. There's been much debate about when the soul 'enters'- always no later than birth- but I think we grow them. There's no exact cut-off and it really takes our whole lives- but somewhere around the age of 3 1/2 makes sense. "

that's messed up. A soul cannot be physically grown. A baby can grow up without a soul. speaking as a whimsical hypothetical, it can survive without this component.

TrippeeChik:

One-to-one karmic connection can always be severed. It's not a life sentence.

You also brought up an interesting concept of the levels of bonds with souls. I understand some SRT (Spiritual Release Therapy) - developed by the founder, Robert E. Detzler. His theories are the compendium of all experiential and experimental theories. Very advanced discourses in karmic, past life, various entities, guides, and soul theories. I probably missed a bunch more that he explains about.

anyhow, He had a brief section in his book on Soul Family. Each one can consists up to 9 petals and each petal can range from 1 to 9 divisions of flames. Each flame has a division of a female and male soul (symbols, there is no gender typing at this level). When the flame incarnates, it splits into two souls. These two are referred to as a Twin Flame.

Its affinity for each other is similar to Linda's ideas -except it neither guarantees a positive interaction; a "living happier ever after" scenario; [sexual] relations between opposite sex. however, it will guarantee a lesson to learn whatever that maybe. ie: break the addiction


Here is where the similarity ends:

A soul can have as many as 17 (9 x 2 = 18 - 1) Twin flames in one petal - while the rest of the petals are only flame mates. So your father, mother, friend, cousin, brother, or sister can be your twin flame. There no rule to keep twin flames as opposite sex of each other, nor have the same traits, characteristics, desires, etc... Hence, it is not as rare as Linda believes it to be.

A flame mate is just a regular soul mate and has the same qualities as a twin flame except the bond is much less stronger. its like comparing power between a Tercel and Formula 1 tech.

Oversouls. The complexity will increase as more Soul families joined together by one junction, petal-to-petal = 36 Twin Flames.

Siamese Flames. The back-side of the petal. The twins of a Twin flame. The duplicate = more craziness.

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: blahblah]
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lindas ideas are not saying that it 'guarantees a positive interaction' in a certain earthly lifetime. the deep bond is still always there (when apart you both feel an inexpressible longing for one another, however much you may try to deny it for personal reasons.) and the personal reasons could be anything (many tests of worthiness), most likely in a sense 'negative' but also positive in that lessons are learned, like you said.

when there is deep love, there is great chance for deep hate - breaking ties for the time being.

im not familiar with robert e. detzler but his theory on soul flames sounds interesting. i will check some of his stuff out.



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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: blahblah]
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blahblah said:
that's messed up. A soul cannot be physically grown. A baby can grow up without a soul. speaking as a whimsical hypothetical, it can survive without this component.


Yeah, I guess a baby might be able to survive without a soul.. but then, I doubt it. I don't think that anything in this Universe doesn't have at least some sort of soul, although their are many different levels of consciousness of souls.. perhaps using the word soul in itself doesn't really work here... Even rocks have some sort of aware energy, although not at the same level as us. I was going to use animals acting off of instinct to show that the baby might be able to survive, but now that I think about it, animals have some sort of awareness...

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anyhow, He had a brief section in his book on Soul Family. Each one can consists up to 9 petals and each petal can range from 1 to 9 divisions of flames. Each flame has a division of a female and male soul (symbols, there is no gender typing at this level). When the flame incarnates, it splits into two souls. These two are referred to as a Twin

Here is where the similarity ends:

A soul can have as many as 17 (9 x 2 = 18 - 1) Twin flames in one petal - while the rest of the petals are only flame mates. So your father, mother, friend, cousin, brother, or sister can be your twin flame. There no rule to keep twin flames as opposite sex of each other, nor have the same traits, characteristics, desires, etc... Hence, it is not as rare as Linda believes it to be.
Oversouls. The complexity will increase as more Soul families joined together by one junction, petal-to-petal = 36 Twin Flames.



This shit right here is pretty much bullshit.. Sorry to have to say that, but putting an exact number on how many soul mates one can come across just doesn't make sense.. How did someone even come up with this?
Peace.


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: TrippeeChik]
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WAW TrippeeChik, thank you very much for that first quote.

I like the way that sounds, i like it ohh yes yes yes yes.


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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: TrippeeChik]
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But the theme was about two people, opposite sex for twin flames.

SRT expands on it. You won't find much info in the book since its mainly a reference manual for his work. Since he told me he's too lazy to formally write the theories, there won't be much info on the net either. My suggestion is you call him. his website will have the number.


Edited by blahblah (08/29/03 04:32 AM)

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: fireworks_god]
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Yeah, I guess a baby might be able to survive without a soul.. but then, I doubt it. I don't think that anything in this Universe doesn't have at least some sort of soul, although their are many different levels of consciousness of souls.. perhaps using the word soul in itself doesn't really work here... Even rocks have some sort of aware energy, although not at the same level as us. I was going to use animals acting off of instinct to show that the baby might be able to survive, but now that I think about it, animals have some sort of awareness...


Quote:
This shit right here is pretty much bullshit.. Sorry to have to say that, but putting an exact number on how many soul mates one can come across just doesn't make sense.. How did someone even come up with this?
Peace.


why don't you look at your previous comments and see if its worth BS too.

yes, possibly the divsions of consciousness (actually better word: evolvedness) at soul level can differentiate between you, me, animals... Rocks. The big food chain is what it is, conceptually.

How that is done is at the point of birth.  What will manifests your soul's evolved expression and lifepath are linked to your birthdate and names as starters.  A rock doesn' have that capability to individualized itself or evolve.  I never heard anyone recalling past life memories as being a rock. hahaha


as for the numbers, why don' you ask Pythagoras, he is one of the founders on Numerology.  :laugh: You can study the numer systems, and you'll understand the foundation of the Mr. Detzler's calculations. 

the no. 9 is the primary symbol of completeness of structure, order, and path.

18 (1 + 8 = 9) twin flames, and 81 (8 + 1 = 9) souls in the Soul family.


Everything I learn, you can on your own. you can either ask me more questions or call it BS.  Your choice. :laugh:

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Re: Concept of soul mates [Re: blahblah]
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'But the theme was about two people, opposite sex for twin flames.'

what do you mean? whos theme?


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