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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Rhizohunter]
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Rhizohunter said:
How about you explain it to me then instead of just calling me ignorant. I already know I'm ignorant.

fuck...


You're honestly suggesting that 1 billion people migrating from Africa into Europe overnight is a solution to African hunger?  There's nothing I can do to explain if you can't even think of one reason why that would never, ever work.

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Rhizohunter]
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Alright.


They should just walk to Europe.

- Walk thousands of miles, probably barefooted or with poor quality shoes, through deserts and jungles? How/what are they going to eat/drink on the way there?

Get a car and just drive.

- With what money?

Get a job for that money.

- What jobs?

Start a garden.

- With what money and supplies?


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: VivaLaMushie]
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VivaLaMushie said:
Those commercials don't bother me at all.

Its the fucking ASPCA ones, with the sad music and sad animal faces.

:frown:


yea the animal ones make me sick as well

With Africa why do they keep having children when they know things are tough, the country is starving and poor?
Personally I'm not gonna have kids cuz I dont want to  be responsible for one growing up in the US
Africa is where the birth control should be
It's not that I hate them it just seems silly that they keep progressing their own problems
:shrug:


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Repertoire89]
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So the main problem here isn't so much them needing to leave their home as much as getting their shit together.

Well fuck, they should get on that then.

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: 1EyeCries]
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If the Africans were really smart...they would stop having babies..


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Rhizohunter]
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Rhizohunter said:
So the main problem here isn't so much them needing to leave their home as much as getting their shit together.

Well fuck, they should get on that then.


There's a ridiculously large number of reasons.  Try some critical thinking.  To help you along - the population of Africa is 1.033 billion.

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Quest_ions said:
If the Africans were really smart...they would stop having babies..


agreed, it seems as if they potentiate their own problems


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: 1EyeCries]
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I see how you can't migrate the whole of Africa, but lets say if I was a starving african.

Couldn't I just be like "fuck this shit" and walk my ass to europe? Sure it would be a challenge, but those are the cards you're dealt with so deal.

right?

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: 1EyeCries] * 2
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Or they could go on a hunger strike....oh wait...nevermind


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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Also the people there are poor and easily extorted for their resources like diamonds
So perhaps although they don't help themselves, no one really helps them either, more so takes advantage of them


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: 1EyeCries]
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1EyeCries said:
Also the people there are poor and easily extorted for their resources like diamonds
So perhaps although they don't help themselves, no one really helps them either, more so takes advantage of them


It's probably a mix of both.


Also, as a note on the 'stop having babies' point - sex is sought out for comfort in times of stress. It more probable that proper sex education and access to contraception is the realistic goal.


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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Or the black dudes can just pull out. :shrug:


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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There are cases of children born infected with HIV in Africa; they need more than just the pull-out strategy.


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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what the fuck! does nobody get this issue yet? we split the nations from tribes during our wars, then started pushing refugees from certain areas into other countries because of food scarcities which were normally cyclical. we then introduced the idea of imf and world bank loans to help develop these nations by providing them with drought intolerant crops like rice and wheat, meanwhile destroying their cassava drought tolerant crop among others. when they could not pay back the loans from the imf and world bank, their resources were auctioned off to the highest bidder, sometimes nestle going in and pumping out complete aquifers to starving villages, to oil companies and uranium mining companies trashing their lands. wake the fuck up everybody!

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Penelope_Tree]
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1EyeCries said:
Quest_ions said:
If the Africans were really smart...they would stop having babies..


agreed, it seems as if they potentiate their own problems



Penelope_Tree said:
1EyeCries said:
Also the people there are poor and easily extorted for their resources like diamonds
So perhaps although they don't help themselves, no one really helps them either, more so takes advantage of them


It's probably a mix of both.


Also, as a note on the 'stop having babies' point - sex is sought out for comfort in times of stress. It more probable that proper sex education and access to contraception is the realistic goal.



:rofldrunk: They don't have 7 childrens for shits and giggles you know. Less developed countries always have far higher birthrates due to them being (for the most part) pre-industrial hunting/agriculture societies. Each child is a new hand in the fields or another hunter for the tribe.


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"I have no way of knowing whether you, who eventually will read this record, like stories or not. If you do not, no doubt you have turned these pages without attention. I confess that I love them. Indeed, it often seems to me that of all the good things in the world, the only ones humanity can claim for itself are stories and music; the rest, mercy, beauty, sleep, clean water and hot food (as the Ascian would have said) are all the work of the Increate. Thus, stories are small things indeed in the scheme of the universe, but it is hard not to love best what is our own—hard for me, at least."

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Cj-B] * 1
    #18255026 -

Each child is also another mouth to feed, another mouth to consume water, another body for clothes..etc


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Something there is mysteriously formed,
Existing before Heaven and Earth,
Silent, still, standing alone, unchanging,
All-pervading, unfailing,
I do not know its name; I call it tao.
If forced to give it a name, I call it
Great (ta). Being great, it flows out;
Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.

It's just a shot away..

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Cj-B]
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"They don't have 7 childrens for shits and giggles you know. Less developed countries always have far higher birthrates due to them being (for the most part) pre-industrial hunting/agriculture societies. Each child is a new hand in the fields or another hunter for the tribe."

That doesn't explain the statistics well. No one said they were out there having fun and popping babies like pills. Just that sex education and access to contraceptives is very limited. I'm not dismissing your view since that idea is likely used as a rationalization, but sex is sought out for comfort. If you don't agree with that, then take a look at what happened to Haiti after money poured in after the earthquake - population explosion, because sex is a form of comfort. BTW, Haiti is still living in tent cities; it isn't like the population explosion occurred after internal structures were rebuilt.

passifloracaerulea said:
what the fuck! does nobody get this issue yet? we split the nations from tribes during our wars, then started pushing refugees from certain areas into other countries because of food scarcities which were normally cyclical. we then introduced the idea of imf and world bank loans to help develop these nations by providing them with drought intolerant crops like rice and wheat, meanwhile destroying their cassava drought tolerant crop among others. when they could not pay back the loans from the imf and world bank, their resources were auctioned off to the highest bidder, sometimes nestle going in and pumping out complete aquifers to starving villages, to oil companies and uranium mining companies trashing their lands. wake the fuck up everybody!


I've never heard of that, thanks for the info. :thumbup: Way to be shroomy about it and cuss at me while sharing, though. :rolleyes:


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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: Penelope_Tree] * 2
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Don't forget about thanking him for the well-document source to this knowledge no one has heard before :wink:.

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: pwnasaurus]
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not trying to piss anyone off. i'm just sick of the common rhetoric when it comes to Africa's problems. you need to look deeper.

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Re: What's your view on starving africans? [Re: passifloracaerulea]
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passifloracaerulea said:
what the fuck! does nobody get this issue yet? we split the nations from tribes during our wars, then started pushing refugees from certain areas into other countries because of food scarcities which were normally cyclical. we then introduced the idea of imf and world bank loans to help develop these nations by providing them with drought intolerant crops like rice and wheat, meanwhile destroying their cassava drought tolerant crop among others. when they could not pay back the loans from the imf and world bank, their resources were auctioned off to the highest bidder, sometimes nestle going in and pumping out complete aquifers to starving villages, to oil companies and uranium mining companies trashing their lands. wake the fuck up everybody!


:rofl:

Hysteria

Africa's had problems long before there was an IMF or World Bank, before the colonial age even. Banks are under the thumb of the ruling class, complaining about them is like complaining about the evil taxman 600 years ago, or the Barons in feudal Europe. Even the ruling classes are irrelevant, one replaces another going back thousands of years and all their power comes from the consent of the masses.
The only issue with mankind if mankind.

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