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pan cyan's not pinning
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I have a tray of pan cyans that are not pinning. I cased with a premade casing from a sponsor and the pan myc has almost fully colonized the casing layer. Its been 9 days since fruiting in a proper sgfc. Do pans take longer to pin than reg. cubes? Is there anything I can try to get some pins forming or do I just have to wait a little longer? There is no contams on the tray and I have a tray of cambo's in the same sgfc that are almost done.


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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Sub depth?casimg depth? Misting fanning schedule?


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: cronicr]
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sub depth is about 2.5-3" casing depth is about 1/8-1/4" mist 2 or 3 times, fan probably 5 or 6 times a day


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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From what i read, you want to keep substrate depth to about 1.5"

But that's all i can really help with. I'm spawning some trays of pan cyans next week, its my first go with em and i cant wait to see them fruit.


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: Blake_Shroom]
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yeah thats a deep sub bud, they really prefer a shallow sub and might or might not pin. all you can do is hope for the best


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: cronicr]
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1.5" sub....to leave room for the .5" casing PAN CYANS


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: cronicr]
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Ok I just measured it again, Its for the most part around 2", the thinnest spot is 1.5" and the thickest is about 2.5". It is a bit thinner in some spots, its not 100% level. The sub has shrunk quite a bit since I put into fruiting and like I said the casing is almost 100% colonized. Is this normal for the pans? Does my mist and fan seem right? I tryed to do plenty of research before I spawned them but Im having awesome luck with the cubes!! Huge pinsets, I harvested a little over 1.5oz in a tiny tray in the first flush.

Is casing again a good thing to do?

Does it have some thing to do with ms innoc?


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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the misting is fine, the like wet feet dry head meaning mist the sub till it pins then stop misting.
the casing colonizing is pretty normal 2 which is y we case it and put it into fruiting right away because of the shallow casing.don't recase it just keep an eye on it and mist when neccesary


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: cronicr]
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alright, I still waiting for at least 1 or 2 fruits so I can print them. I do see a few knots but not sure if there going to do anything, thanks for the help


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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the archive is a great place to research pans
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/postlist.php/Board/63:thumbup:


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: cronicr]
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I actually have 2 pins that I found about 3 hrs after posting this thread, ha well at least Ill get a couple of prints if nothing else. Hope to see a few more in the next few days. I have stopped misting but still fan.


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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What is your humidity at? Pans don't like humidity as high as regular cubes as well.


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: zMan]
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Im trying to keep the sgfc around 80% just for the pans. The cubes I have in there seem to be doing just fine, I have a kick ass pin set with the cubes. like I said I have a few knots on the pans but not alot, 1st indoor grow so im not really sure what Im lookin for or how long to wait for it???:facepalm3: I hope I get a few more pins from the pans so I can keep them going and keep trying to adjust my grow to suit their needs more precise??


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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Tmethyl could guide you in the right direction, I'm pretty sure he has cultivated them indoors, maybe try pming him? I have my master jar going so I'm looking forward to the headache!


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: zMan]
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Awesome!! I have got a few pointers from him already. Im not sure if im just being impatient because im used to the cubes pinning in like 4-5 days. Ive been searching high and low to make the best environment for them, guess we'll see in the next few days if I get more than 2 pins, man I hope so!! Ive been so excited for these, way more than the cubes, hope it works out??


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: first time expert]
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What kind of bulk substrate did you prepare for them?


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: zMan]
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I used 40%h-poo, 40%straw and 20% verm with 5% gypsum. Everything else I used that mix for is doing excellent!!! I have a mini-mono ps.cambo with about 100+ pins, there is clusters of 10-12 pins, is absolutely crazy. The pans on the other hand are going a bit slower.

I wonder if the temp has any thing to do with it? They are pan. cyan. "big island Hawaii" so I imagine they like the warm!! My grow closet gets down to about 72 during the night cycle. During the day it is 78-80, maybe a bit cool for the pans. Not sure tho :shrug:


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: zMan] * 1
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zMan said:
What is your humidity at? Pans don't like humidity as high as regular cubes as well.


I disagree. In my experience, copes seems to thrive in higher humidity, around the 95% RH range. Especially during the pinning/pre-pinning stage. It's very easy for the substrate to dry out otherwise.

And yes, first time expert, keep the temperature up and constant (75-78°).

Check out Blue Helix's stuff too. It's a bit dated, but still very true to form. His posts are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the species.


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: Boozie]
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Boozie said:
zMan said:
What is your humidity at? Pans don't like humidity as high as regular cubes as well.


I disagree. In my experience, copes seems to thrive in higher humidity, around the 95% RH range. Especially during the pinning/pre-pinning stage. It's very easy for the substrate to dry out otherwise.

And yes, first time expert, keep the temperature up and constant (75-78°).

Check out Blue Helix's stuff too. It's a bit dated, but still very true to form. His posts are a wealth of knowledge when it comes to the species.


I'm doing pans now and have studied blue helixs posts, and he recommmends like 99% RH to initiate pinning. Also, I recall him having higher temps:shrug:

Maybe with pans thats not as important as humidity


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Re: pan cyan's not pinning [Re: Blake_Shroom]
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I got 0 experience with pans so I would go with what the guys said, what I said was what I read so that could be correct or not.


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