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HBWR Plug
    #17569691 -

Thinking about trying to plug HBWR tonight, nausea was pretty bad last time I ate some so figured this might help.

Anyone have experience to share? There isn't a whole lot of info on the site yet for this experiment

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Keep me informed.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Will do, this is going to be at midnight though (assuming I don't get too drunk and passout - then it would be tomorrow night).

Last time I accidentally used tap water instead of distilled water, probably contributed to a weak trip... but the nausea was horrible so plugging is worth it just for that. Gross but I don't care  :shrug: 

6 seeds (Indian HBWR) crushed in distilled water, used as enema

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I just downed mine. Didn't seem like much though. Jut a bit of LJ. Not much mulch.

Should I make more?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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5 hbwr down the hatch. this is my first lsa trip so im not sure what to expect other than more than likely puking. soaked in snapple for a few hours first. forgot to add lemon juice before; i heard that helps neutralize something in the seed that causes nausea.


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Edited by GreenHorns (01/18/13 07:21 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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igCorcaigh said:
I just downed mine. Didn't seem like much though. Jut a bit of LJ. Not much mulch.

Should I make more?



I wouldn't, nausea doesn't start right away and it can be pretty bad

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Will do, this is going to be at midnight though (assuming I don't get too drunk and passout - then it would be tomorrow night).

Last time I accidentally used tap water instead of distilled water, probably contributed to a weak trip... but the nausea was horrible so plugging is worth it just for that. Gross but I don't care  :shrug: 

6 seeds (Indian HBWR) crushed in distilled water, used as enema


Yeah, they say distilled H2O, not tapwater.

I'll try just drinking for the first time, other avenues are like, well, let's see :smile:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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But it seemed like a tiny amount, not much to even filter out.

I guess, I'll see how I feel in 1 hour.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Yeah I had the Distilled there too for that purpose, but forgot when prepping it.

Very mild trip, very intense body load

:failboat: lol

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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20 mins in, no nausea, nothing. Should I try more?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Just ground up 4 more seeds, powder sitting in lemon juice now.

So that makes 8. I don't think these seeds are going to do anything.

Edited by igCorcaigh (01/18/13 07:52 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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still nothing on this front. smoked some weed and took a shower. feeling high but nothing exceptional. typing normal at least.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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The one time i did it I drank distilled cold water extract from 40 seeds, split in half with a friend. It was alright but nothing special, definitely not comparable to the real deal and high doeses of ergot are lethal.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GoFindLucy]
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about 90 minutes in and not really feeling any nausea. a bit of a load almost a light drunk feeling, but im smoking bits of weed here and there too. nothing more than i would any other night. anyone else got anything going on?


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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I'm almost 2 hours in, feeling slightly woosy, no nausea. After 8, should I take the 5 more?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Is LSA a slow build? Feels like it.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I feel something, but mild. I did spread my dose out.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I've had a bit to drink tonight, no bud though. Feeling a little woozy now, nothing more

Edited by igCorcaigh (01/18/13 08:58 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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i wouldn't take more just in case it does come on slow. might as well try again in a week with a higher dose.
no nausea just super thirsty, and a little disoriented like when shrooms first start kicking in. fingers still crossed. i little less worried since there's no adverse effects so far.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I feel like something is building, kinda woozy, not severe, no nausea

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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yeah, ill leave the 5 till i know more. Woozy, def.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Pretttyyyy sure the Indian strains aren't even active..or have a ridiculously low alkaloid content.
They're Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds for a reason, ya know..


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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That's two hours... and I've had 8. My gut's are feeling not good now. But nothing bad.

Should I wait more?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: twinkie]
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twinkie said:
Pretttyyyy sure the Indian strains aren't even active..or have a ridiculously low alkaloid content.
They're Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds for a reason, ya know..


That's true. Indian are not good, apparently.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Can I post my source here? Just to check with the community and all.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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yeah theres something there for sure, but its not a trip.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Are your eyes dilated? Mine aren't, but yeah, def something slowly building.

Not a trip, but something.

Don't they say that LSA is a slow build and peaks at the end?

Edited by igCorcaigh (01/18/13 09:18 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: twinkie]
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twinkie said:
They're Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds for a reason, ya know..


Hawaiin baby woodrose is the species, Argyreia nervosa. My reading suggests all geographical A. nervosa contains lysergic acid amides. In fact, there are other Argyreia species that contain lysergic acid amides as well.* However, anecdotal reports indicate that the Hawaiin ones have an especially high concentration of lysergic acid amides. A certain online store purports this fact on their website as well. This is most likely the reason for the prevalence of the Hawaiin ones in the drug community.

*Further reading: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/download.php?Number=17534787


Supposedly, A. nervosa was the sacred Soma of India:

A tantalizing hint left by a deceased master of meditation suggests that the Hawaiin Woodrose may have an ancient spiritual connection. The Vedas, Hindu religious texts more than a thousand years old, make awed references to an intoxicating plant concoction called Soma. The yogis and sages of old used this divine elixir to enhance their connection with God and assist them in their spiritual development. The use of Soma supposedly disappeared with the passage of the centuries, and the identity of the plant from which it came is therefore a mystery. Several scholarly theses and debates have been devoted to identifying the Soma plant, but no definitive conclusions have ever been reached.

In the early 1980s, a famous LSD researcher went to India and asked an elderly world-renowned guru of Yoga if he knew anything about the mysterious Soma. The spiritual teacher replied that he had been in contact with an obscure, remote sect of yogis who still practiced the entheogenic use of soma, having secretly preserved the tradition for centuries. The swami said that the plant was a "creeper"—or vine—and promised that he would take the LSD researcher on a trek to see the plant for himself and meet the yogis who used it.

The Little Book of Acid, Cam Cloud, p. 50


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

Edited by s240779 (01/26/13 04:31 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: s240779]
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Awesome, thank you.
240779 said:
twinkie said:
They're Hawaiian Baby Woodrose Seeds for a reason, ya know..


Hawaiin baby woodrose is the species, Argyreia nervosa. My reading suggests all geographical A. nervosa contains lysergic acid amides. In fact, there are other Argyreia species that contain lysergic acid amides as well.* However, anecdotal reports indicate that the Hawaiin ones have an especially high concentration of lysergic acid amides. A certain online store purports this fact on their website as well. This is most likely the reason for the prevalence of the Hawaiin ones in the drug community.

*Further reading: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/download.php?Number=17534787


Supposedly, A. nervosa was the sacred Soma of India:

A tantalizing hint left by a deceased master of meditation suggests that the Hawaiin Woodrose may have an ancient spiritual connection. The Vedas, Hindu religious texts more than a thousand years old, make awed references to an intoxicating plant concoction called Soma. The yogis and sages of old used this divine elixir to enhance their connection with God and assist them in their spiritual development. The use of Soma supposedly disappeared with the passage of the centuries, and the identity of the plant from which it came is therefore a mystery. Several scholarly theses and debates have been devoted to identifying the Soma plant, but no definitive conclusions have ever been reached.

In the early 1980s, a famous LSD researcher went to India and asked an elderly world-renowned guru of Yoga if he knew anything about the mysterious Soma. The spiritual teacher replied that he had been in contact with an obscure, remote sect of yogis who still practiced the entheogenic use of soma, having secretly preserved the tradition for centuries. The swami said that the plant was a "creeper"—or vine—and promised that he would take the LSD researcher on a trek to see the plant for himself and meet the yogis who used it.

The Little Book of Acid, Cam Cloud, p. 50


QFT, thank you.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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So, I just necked my remaining in 5 seeds out of 13 in LJ. I don't think they are that potent, but feeling something.

No nausea, gut's a bit wobbly though.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Making some ginger tea now. Things are definately a little different

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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im not worried about my source for the ones i have. there is a definite effect but its so mild i think ill take 8 up front next time unless something substantial happens from here.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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no dilation in the pupils.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Yeah sick of waiting around. I'm off to bed. Here's to hoping I wake up to something.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Last time I had dilated pupils, pretty mild trip but definitely active on 8, I used tap water by mistake which I think ruined it.

Got 6 soaking in the closet for plugging, don't want to try too much for new ROA. Will be trying it in an hour and post up after the peak


*I'm using Indian strain and last time I had a mild trip, from what I heard you just need to take more. The nausea was bad though so once again thats why I'm plugging

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Eating cyanogenic glycosides yum, add some sliced garlic(known to neutralize cyanide to an "extent") and drops of lemon juice in a NONTRASPARENT container with powdered seeds and let it sit for 8 hours.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Agentchewy]
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Peppermint spirit!!


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Agentchewy]
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Thats fine for drinking, but spraying garlic, lemon and peppermint up your butt might be uncomfortable lol


:justnotright:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Seed matter in muhh bunghole


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Agentchewy]
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Doing a CWE and filtering lol

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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ETA: +15min

Seeing trails, colors more vivid, light OEV and CEV
Some nausea, I think its just from the ROA though

Only 15min in and I'm tripping harder than first 2 tries, going to wait another 15min and smoke a bowl

:feelsgoodman:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Woke up from noise in the house and not really feeling much anymore. A bit drowsy like a would from a few beers. Decent delerium cross fade. Not bad all in all.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Wow. That experience was amazing! I took 13 seeds in total, and had what I think was the best body euphoria ever, way better than any MDMA I've tried. Like being massaged from deep inside, into a whole body orgasm. Very sensual!

:awetongue:

Visuals-wise, the was a distinct pixelated coloured heatmap effect with eyes open. Very LSD-like, but no obvious CEV's though. The sedated euphoria made it difficult to keep my eyes open for long. A strong sense of objects and thoughts dissolving into a euphoric soup. No negative emotions or anxiety whatsoever.

This is definitely something I will try again. I think the dosage could have been higher though, even at 13 seeds. But I'm on 20mg Lexapro, so that could have blunted the effects

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Ig sounds a lot like what ive experienced. Very "digital" visuals, I also noticed a van gogh effect when I looked at people. For me the come up took almost 3 hours. Deffinatley a body load. Also at some point I blacked out and threw up :blush:

I did a cwe of 600 mg seeds mixed with a strong pepper mint tea and lemon. I used charcoal filtered tap water, maybe 1:1 water to tea (1/4cup). Finely ground seeds in a coffee grinder and added them to the water  & tea mix. I filled the jar 3/4 full of ice and shook (with a lid of course) every 15 minutes for four hours. Than strained it with a t-shirt and drank in 2 mouth fulls. I personally found this worked even better than when I used 35% alcohol (rum) with a butane defat. If you go with alcohol use something strong, and as little as possible, the seeds+ alcohol made me gag so bad, and burned like hell.

I'd like to try working with HBWR sometime. I want to give maybe 10-15 seeds a shot. Id also like to try and figure out some house hold acids & bases that could be used for a very clean extraction.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Plugging works very well, if the nausea was at a 10 before (something like a bad hangover), this time it was more like 2. Very comfortable, could even eat.

OEV
CEV
Nice body high
Euphoria

Went to sleep about 3 hours in, had been drinking all day and didn't plan on staying up past that time. Got a good meditation session in though. Only used 6 (Indian) brewed over a few hours (and could only administer 1/2), have 10 brewing now for Tuesday (3 days)

Highly recommend the plug though, nausea was reduced to almost nothing

:jimmies:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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:rockon:

Dude that is awesome OEV w/ 3 Indian seeds?:pipesmoke:

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2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: flickedbic]
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Mad props for attempting to plug those suckers BTW. Glad it went well, not sure I could muster that courage.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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Used a CWE for the purpose, very little nausea. I was worried about getting sick though since I haven't seen many reports on this ROA, thats why I used only 6. But it worked

The OEVs were pretty light, they were definitely there though. Now that I know this method is safe I'll be doing a real dose

:vibin:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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wire5 said:
Ig sounds a lot like what ive experienced. Very "digital" visuals, I also noticed a van gogh effect when I looked at people.


Yes, very digital, layers of colour, melting.

By heatmap, I mean something like this:



What struck me the most the body euphoria, I have never experienced anything so orgasmic. Definitely like an LSD/MDMA experience.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Nice heat map of a soccer field. I didnt get too much of that kind of thing. But I got lots of melting. I got quite a bit of fisheye and 'pixelation'.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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I want to try these seeds again. I was on the verge of opening into such a beautiful space. Like heaven. But just verging on.

I didn't experience much nausea, but quivering bowels LOL! I had diarrhoea! But then the trip kicked in.

Next time, I will try them in the early morning after sleeping well. I wish my s.o. shared my interests, it was so erotic!

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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wire5 said:
Nice heat map of a soccer field. I didnt get too much of that kind of thing. But I got lots of melting. I got quite a bit of fisheye and 'pixelation'.


Fisheye? Can you explain?

Pixels, yeah, def get that!

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Its like lookin through a fish eye lens or a marble. Such that everything in the middle if a certain point seems closer and everything around it bends away from the point.  Its a really common effect used in skate videos. If you'd like you can do a google image search for fish eye effect, there are tons of examples. Sorry my description is poor, id just post a picture but im just on a tablet and its a bit of a bitch to use.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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damn i didnt get any kind of visuals, just complimented my cannabis high. not a lick of nausea the whole time. sleeping like a champ today, but might be from coming off antibiotics though.

whats the plug method you guys are talking about? im for sure eating 8 next weekend, and id like to try a more effective method than soaking crushed seeds in snapple for a few hours haha.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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i have 60 hbws just chillen. never taken them before.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Salnugs]
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60? No. Start with less than 10.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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haha not eat 60 duuuddde..... i have 60.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Salnugs]
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Oh :smile: Well, that was my first experience with LSA, and it is def. LSD-like, don't be afraid of purging. Vomit, shit, whatever your body feels like. It feels so great. Be in your own space. And shower. Feels awesome!

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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The plug method I used was simple:
Ground up seeds
Soaked in distilled water  (heard its better to soak for a few days)
Filter seed material
Sucked up water into syringe  (I actually used cleaned out enema bottle)
Plugged (has to be something like 3 or 4 inches in)

Basically just distilled water + seeds, not sure if adding anything would be a good idea since it'll be bypassing stomach.

I'm hypermetabolic and have a low tolerance for everything, so judge doses for yourself. Personally started on what I thought would be threshold and turned out to be a little stronger, but still not a full-on trip. Next dose is going to be a lot more potent

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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not trying to put you down, but isn't it uncomfortable tripping while subconsciously knowing there is something in your butt?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Cavemen]
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Not at all actually, maybe if you add lemon or mint to it


*actually I'll be using this ROA for other substances as well (mescaline, mushrooms)

Edited by Repertoire89 (01/19/13 09:13 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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oh yeah ill use chemicals and extract the lsa before i go that route haha. i just got over internal hemorrhoids very recently and i know from experience i do not like things being put in my butt.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Tomorrow is the real dose, will post up results

:jimmies:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Tomorrow is the real dose, will post up results

:jimmies:


Excellent! Should your tolerance have decreased sufficiently by now?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I don't think it did, the trip wasn't as heavy as expected relative to the last one. Dose was x2 and soak was longer. It was a good trip still, but tolerance was too high.

Very light OEV (patterns, trails)
Light CEV
Mild audible hallucinations
Really nice body high
Really nice mental high
Sound was improved

Very good for jamming, I swear the stuff makes my hands faster/cleaner

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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So that was with 12 Indian HBWR?

I love the body high and sedated intoxication. Very relaxing, and definitely psychedelic.

I'm going to try more seeds in a week or 2. A bit concerned about toxic effects though.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Yeah I'm giving it at least a week, probably going to use 15-20. Forgot to mention I had zero nausea, think it was 10 this time

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Go with 15+. After a certain level, it def gets more psychedelic.

I had very little nausea. I'm planning on doing 15 my next time, and redose as needed maybe.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Well be careful, nausea was awful when I actually drank the CWE. Plugging 10 was nausea free, so 20 could only be so bad

Next time definitely getting Hawaiin strain

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Yup, Hawaiian supposed to be best.

I wonder could I grow the plants on my windowsill?? Must do a bit of research...

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Perfect the method to find the perfect dosage and you'll be a saint, because I've never heard sounds like I have on hbwr, ever


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Agentchewy]
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Well dude these are Indian strain so they're weaker, I may have messed up this last batch in 2 different ways  (only 3 days between trips, and a small amount of tap water got onto seeds while grinding). My sensitivity to substances in general is another factor. Basically its best if you found the right dosage for yourself, there's little to no nausea with this method so you can test it at your leisure

Going to dose on 20 next Monday or Tuesday, will post about it

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Only gave it 4 days I guess, but I tried 20 (Indian strain). Was pretty nice, body load was there but tolerable. Main effect was with music, also CEV but the visuals in general with LSA have thus far been a minor note. There but not potent

Not sure if taking 30 would be a good idea, maybe just let my tolerance fully reset and take 20 again.

*Thought I should point out again just in case... this is with the Indian strain which is supposed to be 1/2 strength of Hawaiin. Also I'm using a plug method (enema) which reduces nausea big time. If I ate 20 I would be very very sick, 8 was bad enough

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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thinking i might do another dose tomorrow morning. maybe 8-10 this time orally since i didn't get any real nausea last time.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Got a Datura seed? :eek: Some kola nut CWE  I bet that would be a treat :laugh:.


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


All readable matter in the above post is ficticious... any similarities to real life are purely coincidental.

Blessing.

Edited by flickedbic (01/27/13 09:57 AM)

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Datura!

:awwhellno:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Interesting datura-MG seeds trip report:


sunset_mission said:

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LongStrangeTrip said:
I have heard of mixing 1-3 seeds with LSA for a more LSD like experience over on the nexus.

Don't remember where I read that though...take it with a grain of salt :rolleyes:


I may wholeheartedly attest to this.

On numerous occasions I have found that by adding in as little as 3-5 datura inoxia seeds, I was able to achieve very powerful and long-lasting entheogenic effects from consuming only a VERY SMALL SPOONFUL of untreated Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seeds. By a small spoonful, I'm saying less than 2g, about 25-50 seeds. The nausea was very minimal, the vasoconstriction barely noticeable, yet for an entire 10 hours I was very noticeably "tripping" just as hard as I would on a dose of 10g. I did this regimen several times over the past few months, one of my favorite settings being my current Philosophy class in college.

I felt my field of consciousness expanding tremendously; my perceptual and mental awareness was such that I was able to examine each and every statement said from various degrees and pinpoint the intentions and various meanings behind every sentence in our discussions at a very rapid pace. In nearly each instance that I sat in class on this very low entheogenic nootropical dose, quasi-telepathic phenomenon was experienced. When a question was asked by the teacher, an answer would instantaneously and intuitively enter my mind without any prior contemplation upon the said inquiry. Now my class is quiet and the other students normally never participate comprehensively... yet when I would glance at any particular student and fixated upon them for several moments, they would give an answer eerily similar save for a few words as to what was in my mind.

Oftentimes the lecture the teacher gave, what he was saying coincidentally coincided with something which was within my subconscious. From my numerous experiences with this experiment my understanding of the notion that an individual's reality is a direct reflection of their psyche both multiplied and solidified itself. When I was in class it should be noted that I wasn't at the "peak" of the experience, and the effects continued for essentially the entirety of the day.

One of the most crucial aspects and benefits of mixing LSA + low dose Datura is the ease and intensity in which it facilitates the void-like state of complete stillness, emptiness and internal silence within, necessary to "do work".* That is just in my case however, as I subscribe to the view of utilizing this molecular technology for purposes of divine communion, manifesting my Higher Self, amongst other things one might consider "shamanic" and have had extensive history and experience with Morning Glory to the point I would consider them very reliable allies.

Perhaps it is because of my extensive relationship with them that I might have developed a sort of sensitivity to them which would result in my being able to achieve powerful and profound states of being from the consumption of a mere spoonful of seeds, though there is no doubt in my mind that were those 3 Datura seeds not added such would not have been feasible. Actually, there've been times where I do achieve non-subtle effects from that same dose WITHOUT Datura seeds, but with the Datura I achieve OEV's and the duration is kicked up to a full 10-12 hours. Besides, the psychedelic-potentiating effects of datura are well known and documented.

To recap: micro-dose of LSA + microdose of Datura = guaranteed experience that may rival 10g doses without Datura

04/24/12, http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/16132569#16132569

Overview on how datura works, for those interested: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showthreaded.php/Number/17505506/vc/1


*It's interesting that sunset_mission says this because look at the following commentary by Albert Hofmann:


Grof: Have you actually tried the ololiuqui yourself?

Hofmann: Yes, I did. But, of course, it is about ten times less active; to get a good effect, you need one to two milligrams.

Grof: And what was that experience like?

Hofmann: The experience had some strong narcotic effect, but at the same time there was a very strange sense of voidness. In this Void, everything loses its meaning. It is a very mystical experience.

Stanislav Grof Interviews Dr. Albert Hofmann. MAPS Bulletin 9.2 (Fall 2001): 22–35.


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

Edited by s240779 (01/27/13 10:12 AM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: s240779]
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Following This HBWR tek with the exception of getting it right at ph4. I only have an analog PH test kit and my tea is too dark to accurately measure the PH. I squeezed in about 1/4 lemon into a snapple jar of peppermint tea and been getting it cold in the freezer now.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Planning on 15-20 (Indian strain) for Monday, will be doing another CWE.

This time its been over a week for tolerance to go down, and I'll have the ROA down a bit better. The previous trip was heavy in some ways but didn't take off all the way, thinking this time will be much stronger.

Good luck with yours GH

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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It went alright. Came on strong and felt loaded and weak then just took a nice nap. Not that enjoyable this time really. I miss psilocybin.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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I miss psilocybin too. Going to start growing soon. I had a great first experience with LSA, but nothing compares to the depth of psilocybin. So beautiful. And it's been over ten years... damn.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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:daaamn:

Over a decade?

Edited by Repertoire89 (02/02/13 10:25 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I'm so low on € these days, and have no contacts... it's a toss up between ordering more HBWR seeds and UR-144.

Also, I'm stocking up on kit for growing. Gradually.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Over a decade?


Yup. WTF was wrong with me?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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I walked the fields this autumn looking for libs, and found none. Bummer.

Loved liberty cap tea back in the day.

Got distracted, MDMA, then work, etc.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Growings pretty cheap from what I gather, but I've yet to start.

Isn't it just mushrooms seeds and miracle grow?

:loldongs:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Had some okayish trips on LSD as well during the years, but so low dose tabs. Microdots were around, but even then just enough to give slight visuals.

So miss shrooms :frown:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Man I'll be trying mesc this year

:cactus:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Yeah, just doing research as well. Getting my jam jars ready :smile:

So excited with it...

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Man I'll be trying mesc this year

:cactus:


Oh you tease...

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Growing is a blast active or otherwise. And it is cheap once you get the pressure cooker. Have the last component to my next grow in the mail now

:awecid:


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Man I'll be trying mesc this year

:cactus:


That is very high up on my extraction list. Need to give my bark a go then get some cacti happening.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Man, I so want to be back working. Have to finish my JAVA/Android course.

Bud here is €50 for 3.5g

Would love to start growing that too, but, oh so complex. My crumby apartment.

Shrooms first. Until then, it's cheap noids and a few cans of beer :frown:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: GreenHorns]
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Mesc is easy to come by (at least in the states), san pedro




GreenHorns said:
And it is cheap once you get the pressure cooker.


I've been planning on skipping that myself, at least for the time being

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GreenHorns said:
Growing is a blast active or otherwise. And it is cheap once you get the pressure cooker. Have the last component to my next grow in the mail now

:awecid:


I was going to get a PC for €30... but damn... I'll try my pots for first time.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Weed might be legal soon all around, been a damn good start so far - so maybe you'll just be able to grow freely

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Should I skip the seeds and UR and just spend on the spore syringe?

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
Weed might be legal soon all around, been a damn good start so far - so maybe you'll just be able to grow freely


Yeah, but our overlords here prefer banning things. Not going to hold my breath.

And, y'know if it comes to it? Fuck'em I'll do time. Nothing to lose.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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And I mean that sincerely. Treat me as political prisoner.
My dad went to jail for non-compliance of water tax.

I think he'd be on my side :wink:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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You can do a non pc grow by pasturizing a bulk substrate and doing a mono tub but you'll need sterile spawn from someone. Or you'll need the pc unless there's teks I'm unfamiliar with.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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igCorcaigh said:
Should I skip the seeds and UR and just spend on the spore syringe?


I hear you can just eat the mushroom seeds

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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I'm following PF-TEK, I hear it's easier. My problem is using a drill for the shotgun tub. Fear of losing thumbs etc.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Repertoire89 said:
I hear you can just eat the mushroom seeds


Oh, you kill me :smile:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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igCorcaigh said:
And I mean that sincerely. Treat me as political prisoner.
My dad went to jail for non-compliance of water tax.

I think he'd be on my side :wink:


Thats fucked!!!

Feel free not to answer (whether you just want to or can't), but what country are you in?

Again not trying to break rules or stalk you or anything, I just want to know where they treat water tax so strictly; so I can know to make sure my taxes there are paid (should I visit this place) :wink:


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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LOL, like my flag says, (Southern) Ireland.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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They've been trying to privatise the water system here for years, but          some people, just say we're paying for it already. I say, way to go.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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But, hey, we're kinda socialist minded like that :grin:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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The govt has been installing water meters in every home (oh, for the environment, y'know) and charging.

Just to pave the way for water-as-a-business, like they have in UK.

But... I just think water out of your tap should be a public service?Like, ya know, a basic thing? Call me commie, but WTF?

Next? Sewerage? Crap tax? Fuck me...



Edited by igCorcaigh (02/02/13 11:12 PM)

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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No I agree, here in the states we have to pay for it which is a bit BS imo, but at least its cheap (where I live).

Electricity prices suck though.


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: wire5]
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20 seeds (Indian strain HBWR), got the process down a bit better and am expecting a much more potent extract. Another plug for science

:yuno:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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I just wanted to post to say that I'm interested in seeing the results of what you are doing, show a little support yano, good luck! :thumbup::smile:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Hiro]
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Had to delay it, got sick today. Busy tomorrow so hopefully clear up for Wed' day

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Hope you're feeling better Repertoire, any updates? :popcorn:

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: igCorcaigh]
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Too sick  :crankey:

Will post an update after the trip, have the juice just sitting there soaking. Its undisturbed in the dark/cold so I think it should be fine if it takes a few more days.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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It's not necessary to do it for more than a few hours.


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I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: s240779]
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Was brewing it overnight and couldn't dose when it came time to use it, so been saving it. May actually rebrew it since theres a lot of seeds laying around

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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R89- did u ever try a larger dose with this roa....Uve got some of us interestedededededed

Let us know results!


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Seekingtruth]
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Sorry I got sick last week, have a meeting tomorrow so will be taking it Wed morning.

Definitely didn't forget about this, got the method down much better than before, with 15 I have the water darker than I had it with 20. It was a pale auburn colour before, this time its practically black  (this batch got started last night)

Expecting it to be worth the wait and will post up

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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Tomorrow


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Have you found any vasoconstrictive effects or are you using a vasodialator?


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1)Combo of oral DMT + smoked Bufotenine
2)Amanita (urine drank twice)
3)Mushrooms > Achuma 16"+cid(still need higher dose Achuma)> Cid (still need high dose)
4)Morning Glory-HBWR (+cumin, cinnamon aldehyde adducts) > Methyl chavicol (need more activators)
5)Salvia (need to try quid)


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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: flickedbic]
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flickedbic said:
Have you found any vasoconstrictive effects or are you using a vasodialator?


The results of taking 15 Indian straing HBWR (had to toss old batch that sat for a week), in a CWE 2 days coming out to a dark red, plugged. Was very similar to how I would normally feel off 1 hit of good LSD

Very clean with no negative side effects, very nice body high and really light visuals. Could have been stronger but was impossible to hold in for more than 15min, next time I'll try 20.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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So is it hard to hold it in? Or is it easy, then feels like u gotta use the bathroom in 10-15 mins

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Seekingtruth]
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The other times it was easy and held for an hour no problem, this time it was difficult. Got a lot more color in the water out of the seeds this time, definitely more potent than the last attempts and that may be why it was harder to hold. Could just have been my stomach though.

Idk how long one needs to hold it, but I was aiming for 30min


I'd definitely recommend the plug to anyone though, still trying to get the process down but I know for sure it reduces nausea for myself.

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Re: HBWR Plug [Re: Repertoire89]
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I dunno I'd still rather just do the same amount of water like a shot... But I got a pretty tough gut.


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