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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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HBWR effects both mentally/psychically * 1
    #1783557 - 08/05/03 11:13 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

This thread is about possible effects of HBWR. You might find its effects similar in ways or even in different ways then other psychedelics (ex. mushrooms, acid, DXM, mesc, ect) :

-Feeling of head being twice as big.
-Colors focus to reds and yellows hues.
-Disorientated with limbs (seem lanky and extremely odd).
-Seeing wispy flowery fractal patterns.
-Intense euphoria, with the feeling of pure bliss (very different from MDMA).
-Swore at the back of the legs.
-The feeling of rolling out and up.
-Hearing psytrance/mind music in the background.
-Nature/plants seems to almost dance because its so alive.
-The feeling you pissed your self.
-Extremely vibrant colors.
-Pale yellow trails.
-Extra 6 sense.
-Dreamy feeling.
-Nausea and body load.
-Tranquil thoughts.
-Body tracers (you can actually feel inside the trails you make).
-Constantly pissing with an horrible tangy smell.
-Has the same kind of feeling when your in a lucid dream trying to wake your self up.
-You visit the dream world inside the back your brain.
-Feeling your mind is wide open.
-Hollow feeling.
-Clear thinking
-Extreme eye dilation.
-Pale face.
-Drunk feeling.
-Extreme out bursts off energy.
-Extremely sensitive to touch.
-Rainbows around lights.
-Enhanced textures.
-Pleasant after-glow.
-Slightly slurred speech.
-Strange ways of walking.
-Your back arches down and neck seems to raises up.
-Anaesthization of the skin and deeper tissue.
-Feelings of coldness in the limbs.
-High energy levels.
-Muscle aches and cramps upon exertion.

I'd compare the trip to a ALD-52 experience. Very mellow green trip. I recommend this to any tripper who really wants something learned out of the trip.

I would give it 8 out of 10. I myself have tripped on HBWR 7-9 times and enjoy it as much as I do mushrooms and acid.

If any one would like to add anything to the list your welcome to.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1783582 - 08/05/03 11:19 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

It's DXM.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Phencyclidine] * 1
    #1783728 - 08/05/03 11:57 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

--Anaesthization of the skin and deeper tissue
--Feelings of coldness in the limbs
--High energy levels
--Muscle aches and cramps upon exertion


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Sev] * 1
    #1784337 - 08/06/03 07:20 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

bump :smile:


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1784346 - 08/06/03 07:30 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

your recomended dosage/preparation? what works for you?


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: trippinlizard] * 1
    #1784396 - 08/06/03 08:11 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1 (read my post)

I recommend 5-8 seeds for first time trip and if wanted exceed dosage next trip. You have to remember though this is a great tool to explore the hidden parts of the psyche. Which adds tremendous themes to the trip. Which is unlike any other ethnogen known to man.

So be mentally and psychically prepared. You have to give this ethnogen great respect for its power of reveling the mind to one.

I don't want to sound crazy or anything but you visit parts of the universe unknown to man.
It only could be parts of the psyche that have never been used before. But it doesn't alter reality. It comes part of reality. You will see what I'm talking about when you try these scared beautiful seeds.

Very very interesting scared ethnogen.

A true shamans tool...


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1784413 - 08/06/03 08:26 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

lol, i've done 'em before but everyone always argues about how to prepare them and dose and whatnot, glad to see that you respect the entheos for what they are tho man, stay hard :grin:

have you done salvia?, my breakthrough experience was the most difficult/crazy/enlightening/terrifying experience of my life, i've done many psychedelics, but nothing can prepare you for salvia.

peace.



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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: trippinlizard] * 1
    #1784440 - 08/06/03 08:46 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Lady Sally is next on my things to do list.. Sounds like it would be good combo with HBWR maybe?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1784476 - 08/06/03 09:13 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

HBWR + salvia = :crazy2:

I tried Salvia for my first time when I was *straight*, and it was still awesome... for some reason I pet my dog for like 30 minutes, walked outside and sat down and watched hummingbirds in my garden, laid in my hammock and had one of my most spiritual experiences to date.

I've also done salvia while on HBWR... I melted into a dresser, a friend of mine went back in time (but was in five separate times at once), my friend's legs fell off... the combination of the two is incredible. I suggest making a bigass grav, smoke some herb an hour after you dose your seeds, then once the trip starts kicking in full force do a grav of salvia. Hold it in for 30 seconds and I guarantee by 20 you'll be out of this world.

Oh ya, if you go to Bouncing Bear you can buy 3 grams of 5x for like $32 or something and get a free gram because your order is over $30. Not a bad deal at all.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1784485 - 08/06/03 09:18 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

The unappreciative bastards in EG didn't care much for my thread, which I think is very helpful.  :rolleyes:  I suggest trying it at least once if you're going to dose HBWR. Who knows, you might like it.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1

I'll try your method, TSW, if you try mine :smile: I'd like another person's opinion on the technique I use, and I'll be sure to get back to you about your's. My seeds should be coming in a few days. 


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Adden] * 1
    #1784512 - 08/06/03 09:27 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Cool. :cool:

Thanks for the info dude. :thumbup: 


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1786950 - 08/06/03 11:10 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone else have an HBWR experience and would like talk about its effects on the brain? Or any other methods of preparation/dosage and general questions about HBWR? Ill be happy to answer any of your questions.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1789871 - 08/07/03 07:31 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't scrap my seeds at all and I didn't feel any noticable nausea. Except when I went through the whole "what have just done" stuff...


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Funguy] * 1
    #1790190 - 08/07/03 08:52 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

edited



Edited by iglou (09/13/03 03:04 AM)


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: iglou] * 1
    #1790789 - 08/08/03 12:31 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Iglou try scraping every thing from the outer layer and eat alot of the scrapings... Then tell me its not toxic..

The method I thought was the burning method which burns some of the nasties inside the seeds (the nasties and some small amounts of goodies).
I heard extacts that only extract the LSA work better and achieve a stronger trip.
Burning sort of burns the nasties inside the seed same theory as extracting (taking away the nasties part of extracting).

Do it Iglou and see or any one for that matter.

edited: period..lol.

You will get an extreme hang over if you don't burn for quick burn like (3 secs). NOT SICK BUT TOXIC VERY AFTERWARDS. Try my method and see compare to not burnt and not scraped.


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Invisibleiglou
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1791909 - 08/08/03 11:26 AM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Iglou try scraping every thing from the outer layer and eat alot of the scrapings... Then tell me its not toxic..




Re-read my posts. Never did I say that the outer layer is completely innocuous, rather I said the cyanogenic glycosides (that which tend to make people sick) are found through and throughout every part of the seed. However, the cyanogenic glycosdies are in more concentration in the seedbody itself. Therefore removing the outer layer only removes a tiny, unnoticable fraction of the cyanogenic glycosides.

Scraping only makes the pulveriztion of the seeds that much more easier and efficient. It is an urban myth that they prevent sickness - do some research and stop spreading misinformation.

Supposed "LSA" extracts are bogus as well. Check out the Entheogen Review. Only cold-water extrations are semi-worthwhile, but not really.

Burning, as you suggest, only serves to degrade the seeds (both the LSA and cyanogenic glycosdies), meaning you have to consume more to achieve the same effect as a lesser, non-burnt amount of seed.

Seriously, why go through all of this trouble? Scrapping and burning do not reduce or prevent any discomfort anymore than eating a smaller amount of seed. If you honestly want to reduce or prevent discomfort, all you have to do is simply eat less on an empty stomach! It is that easy.

Quote:

You will get an extreme hang over if you don't burn for quick burn like (3 secs).




Wrong.

Quote:

Try my method and see compare to not burnt and not scraped.




I already did and your method is useless and waste of effort and seed. All anyone has to do to achieve the same effect is simply eat a smaller amount of seed on an empty stomach. Think about it.


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: iglou] * 1
    #1792284 - 08/08/03 01:41 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Oh you did use it...I like it and will stick with it till the day I die. You seriously gotta be quick with the flame though because of degeneration.

The burning just some how unlocks the spiritual purposes of the trip. If chemical or on a spiritual level, who knows. All that I know I achieve stronger trip from doing it.

Hell I got many intense light trips off one cap (3.5 seeds) off my method. But when I just scraped and took 4 seeds I just felt sick, didn't trip at all and nothing...

The only way to tell the difference is take 14 seeds from my method.
And take 14 seeds of the other method the next 2 weeks later.

Just a thought...


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Invisibleiglou
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1795229 - 08/09/03 12:14 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

If four seeds does nothing for you and you really need fourteen, then well, there is a significant chance you do not possess argyreia nervosa seed. Probably the African or Indian variety.

True argyreia nervosa is active even at one seed.



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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: iglou] * 1
    #1795388 - 08/09/03 01:23 PM (20 years, 5 months ago)

Well it just might be variation in potency from seed to seed? (I purchase all my seeds from boucingb always, plus I didn't burn the seeds that time)

I myself have had 4 light trips off 4 seed doses and had very enlightening experience's. Like I'm saying 14 seeds are for those heroic dose level 5 trips when the walls start to shift :wink:. I like HBWR level 5 trips because of the intense shifting visuals unlike anything else I have encountered.

12-14 seeds seem to get me to level 5. And HBWR level 5 trips are nothing comparable to mushrooms or acid level 5 trips (instead of ego-death there is ego-bliss) . Very hard to describe, you can think crystal clear but at the same time the world is spinning around you, everything is nothing, nothing is every thing but you feel at pure bliss with every thing...

I don't really advise to take HBWR level 5 trips because of extreme chances of possible side effects (remember the higher the dose the more likely that the effects on that list become more possible). But after you learn the trip with 4 low dose HBWR trips under your belt you can processed.

I must just have a bold taste for HBWR. :smile: 


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls] * 1
    #1882630 - 09/04/03 07:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Bump :smile: .


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1882673 - 09/04/03 07:49 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I REALLY wanna try HBWR, is there anyone who could send me some or tell me where to get them? Any help would be great, ive heard great things about the trip. Peace!


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: RespectTheFungus]
    #1882807 - 09/04/03 08:26 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

***PM or not at all*** , but you did not hear it from me.

NO SOURCES.


Edited by Effed (09/04/03 08:32 PM)


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1882833 - 09/04/03 08:34 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I would like to move this post to Other Drugs.
This is NOT a General Question.
Do you oppose this?


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Effed]
    #1882886 - 09/04/03 08:44 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes I oppose... This is about General Question about HBWR the psychedleic and its effects.


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Offlineeggystardust
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1883617 - 09/05/03 12:06 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I just ordered some recently and await them in the mail! I got a few questions, how long do the effects normally last and between what hours is the peak normally? Would it be safe to do alone outdoors somewhere (possibly a large park) or do you need a trip sitter? I figured I'd take 5 seeds after peeling them and grind them into powder with the 'ol hammer trick. I've heard about some people holding the powder in your mouth for some odd minutes and then spitting them out, will this work and stop a lot of the bodyload I hear about? In your opinion is it better during the day or night?

Sorry for so many questions, just want to make my first HBWR experience good!


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Invisibletheshiftingwalls
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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: eggystardust]
    #1883683 - 09/05/03 12:35 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

It takes 2 and a half hours to peak. Lasts 8-10 hours in total. Yes,  you can go outdoors, if you can handle it you will not need a trip sitter.

The old hammer trick does the trick :wink:. Use a strong zip-lock bag.

Best to ingest the seeds. Just hold the powder (whole dose) in your mouth for 20 min then swallow.

I prefer to put them in 00 sized capsules (3.5 seeds). Because then you know your dose. I like to take 3 capsules (10.5 seed dose)

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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1883988 - 09/05/03 03:31 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

"Best to ingest the seeds. Just hold the powder (whole dose) in your mouth for 20 min then swallow."

I have not heard of this before. How well does it work as far as nausea and trip potency?

Do capsules really work well? I have tried capsules with shrooms but all it did was take longer for the trip to set in.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Blammo300]
    #1883991 - 09/05/03 03:36 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Capsules do work very well. I use it all the time. I hardly ever get sick.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1883994 - 09/05/03 03:43 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

What about leaving the seeds in your mouth for 20min, do you get nausea with that?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Blammo300]
    #1884006 - 09/05/03 03:56 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Possible, but you still have to ingest the seed matter with the 20 min thing.
It works ok. You could try it if you want.


But I recommend capsules. Because they boost potency of the seeds by %30 and you will hardly have any nausea also.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1885348 - 09/05/03 01:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I'm still a little confused, when is the onset after you ingest the seeds?
and it lasts 8-10 hours? after about how long would I sober enough to drive?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1885973 - 09/05/03 04:23 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Why would capsules boost the seed potency? Your ingesting the same amount of seeds.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: MisterKite]
    #1885997 - 09/05/03 04:29 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

anyone gonna answer me >_<!!!!!!!???????


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1886039 - 09/05/03 04:39 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I think I'm gonna try crushing them and doing the soak in lemon/lime juice shot. What should I bring if I go to a park and plan on crossing over from day to night? I assume headphones and maybe a sketchpad, anything else that's fun to do with LSA?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: eggystardust]
    #1886081 - 09/05/03 04:52 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I'm going the same way eggy is going to go when i get some. I'm doing the method where you clean the seeds, cruch them up, mix with a few tablespoons of pure lemon juice, letting it sit for 30 minutes, stirring about every 5-10 minutes, and then after 3o min. you drink it slowly swash it around in your mouth and just finish the whole thing. I believe it was s2dope's idea that he posted. Quick onset and nausea free. And just for the record, i see shiftingwalls also posting a lot of information and best advice. thanks.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: shwowsh]
    #1886166 - 09/05/03 05:24 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Guy's I really want to experience these positive effects especially the ego-euphoria shifting refered to.

My problem is I have tried eating normal/scraping and burning buyt every time I had extreme nausia and no trip just pupil dilation!

Can anyone tell me a true way to remove the nausia???
Because for me it is most extreme even on a couple of HBWR.
Would say an ISO extraction remove nausia or is it just reacting badly for me???


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Ego Death]
    #1886341 - 09/05/03 06:20 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

whats special about the lime juice anyway??


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Spokesman]
    #1886986 - 09/05/03 10:31 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

If I ever chew on a seed again. I will gag and it will taste more gross then the last time. I like capsules because you do not have to chew or taste.

Try it not burnt.

Capsules will make the ego-euphoria come :wink:.

Drawing is fun on woodrose :smile: .


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1887389 - 09/06/03 12:37 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

I'm still in the dark about after how long (approx) i'd be able to drive!!!

SOMEONE PLEASE ANSWER!!!


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1887407 - 09/06/03 12:47 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Man, that depends on so many factors which only you could know... you are the one to judge that for yourself Faaip.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Tavarua]
    #1887443 - 09/06/03 01:00 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, you could not drive for days :wink:. It depends on you and only you.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1887591 - 09/06/03 02:13 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

yeah I guess that was kind of a dumb question, but how long does an average trip last on say, 6-7 seeds?

or could someone make one of those nifty graphs that show the come up, peak and come down?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1887609 - 09/06/03 02:18 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Has waves just like LSD. Lasts 6-10 hours from ingestion to back to baseline. After glow may last up to a week on high doses.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1887981 - 09/06/03 07:31 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Back on taclick the glycoside problem...

Why stay to extraction and/or burning the seed and not imrpovise?

Lets do it like nature! Enzymatic brakedown of these glycosides is feasible.CHeck here: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post1749332

Many plant leaves containing those glycosides contain the enzyme as well.Cassava family is on candidate. Look at this as well: http://forums.spiritplants.com/index.php...6b448062cdfecc3

Any thoughts?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Psiloman]
    #1887987 - 09/06/03 07:45 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Then I must be a wood-tard by now.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1887994 - 09/06/03 07:51 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Ya, I used the burning method all the time. Never haven't. But people got mad at me when I recommended burning very quickly.



I always burn my seeds. Why you think I trip on them all the time? Because I do not get sick or get cramps hardly..

Everyone has to burn the seeds then put them in capsules.

Burn your seeds!


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1888062 - 09/06/03 08:51 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Ive been trying these out the last few weeks. I started with a modest dose of two seeds and got a quite stoned and groggy result. I wasnt
particularly impressed. It certainly contained a visual tinge similar to LSD.
Then my next dosage was 4 and again the experience was similar and not overwhelming, yet the physical nasties were considerable - nausea and body aches and general malaise.
Tonight ive injested around 8 crunched to a pulp as a powder. I was going to try the liquid method which i'd assume would reduce the nausea, but it was getting late.
Tow hours down things have turned quite strange. Its like acid without the joviality or energy. Quite interesting.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1888236 - 09/06/03 10:41 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

How the hell would putting it in a dissolving capsule prevent nausia?

This is crap. I spose if I put pure cyanide in a capsule I'll have great fun too, yeah?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Ego Death]
    #1888243 - 09/06/03 10:46 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, yes you will.

Aawwwwhh the histeria, histeria histeria......


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    #1888697 - 09/06/03 02:52 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: poke smot!]
    #1888747 - 09/06/03 03:24 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Thats why I use capsules folks... See know?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1888751 - 09/06/03 03:26 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Waits to release in your intestines. So you have Max effects.


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Ego Death]
    #1893106 - 09/08/03 03:58 AM (20 years, 4 months ago)

why you replying to me? i didnt say that?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Zen Peddler]
    #1899123 - 09/09/03 04:59 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: salazare]
    #1929445 - 09/18/03 02:58 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Bump...


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1929877 - 09/18/03 04:58 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

shifting, it seems silly to burn the seeds. The LSA would burn along with it. It's burning temperature is extremely low. Shifting, try using the lime extract method and not burning the seeds and tell us your physical results(nausea imparticularily).


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: MisterKite]
    #1929888 - 09/18/03 05:01 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Done that...


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: theshiftingwalls]
    #1930944 - 09/18/03 11:06 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

.........and?


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Faaip_De_Oiad]
    #1931067 - 09/18/03 11:37 PM (20 years, 4 months ago)

Got sick...


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Re: HBWR effects both mentally/psychically [Re: Phencyclidine]
    #25541176 - 10/16/18 06:06 AM (5 years, 3 months ago)

DXM is not a psychedelic dude, its a dissociative like phencyclidine.


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