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Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation.
    #1752413 - 07/27/03 06:01 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I would like a link to the most comprehensive documentation of the history of cubensis cultivation on the net.

If there isn't one, I would like to create it.

Anyone who knows stories about cultivation methods, interesting anecdotes/legends or history prior to PF tek/MMGG, early "strains", All versions of the MMGG from 1.0 and up or anything else to contribute please do so here.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1752483 - 07/27/03 06:55 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Having a quick Google, there doesn't seem to be any comprehensive timeline around.

Also I'm having trouble finding anything to do with cultivation prior to the MMGG in 1976.

I'll keep looking.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Jackal]
    #1752496 - 07/27/03 07:20 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Where did you find anything about the MMGG in 1976?

I didn't think it was that old.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1752517 - 07/27/03 08:10 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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OSS O T; OERIC O N; [MCKENNA, DENNIS & TERENCE]
Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide.
Psilocybin: Magic Mushroom Grower's Guide; 1976 Berkeley: And/Or Press.
Procedure for growing Psilocybe cubensis mushrooms from spores using agar, rye grain, and sterile kitchen techniques. Discussion of history and lifecycle of mushrooms.




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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1752687 - 07/27/03 11:36 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivati [Re: Jackal]
    #1753094 - 07/27/03 03:46 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I got that book when it first came out. Some friends and I built a glovebox, knocked up some agar and then rye, and ended up with POUNDS of shrooms before trichoderma invaded all the casings. We didn't understand the concept of air exchange, so our fruiting chambers were basically mold incubators.

Anyways -- good book, and if you follow their instructions to the letter it works like a charm.

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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivati [Re: Phred]
    #1753274 - 07/27/03 04:51 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Where did the use of the syringe first occur? Was it the MMGG, or PF tek?


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivati [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1753616 - 07/27/03 07:04 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

An early edition of The Whole Earth Catalog had an ad for petri dishes of mycelium for Cubensis. I think the guy's name was John Cage in Lemon Grove, CA. He mailed the cultures and some very complicated growing instructions for $40. This dates back to the early seventies and was the first cultivation information I've seen. The recipe called for rye grain with a large variety of micronutrients. It also included directions for a growth chamber with a bed of moist kitty litter heated with electric wires like the ones used to keep pipes from freezing. He suggested growing in small fish bowls.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1754037 - 07/27/03 10:13 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

A quick search of the newsgroups provided me with this ...

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From: Psylocybe Fanaticus (pf@pf.bleep.com)
Subject: The Hyperreal mushroom growers bulletin board
Newsgroups: alt.drugs.psychedelics
Date: 1995/11/03


This posting is for PF afficianados and
practitioners. It is about the "Magic mushroom
growers guide ver 2.4" at the HYPERREAL
mushroom growers buletin board. To see it, go
to your web browser and enter

[bleep]

This posting concerns further discussion on the
inherent problems that are found in the "Magic
mushroom growers guide" ver 2.4 Hyperreal
web document version of the PF TEK.

I have a suspicion why the MMGG authors
deemed the PF TEK dual chambered terrarium
and bubbler technique inferior to using an
ultrasonic humidifier. The kitchen product
sprayers that they apparently used have low
spray output, even on "high". I should have
specified the all purpose bottle sprayer found at
supermarkets. The spray from one of those
babies will force feed the dual chambered
terrarium humidity to 100% in a matter of
seconds. Even a large dual chambered
terrarium is easy to super charge with humidify.
(photographed in the PF TEK)
And then the aquarium bubbler takes over.

I quote the tell tale passge from the "Magic
mushroom growers guide" PF TEK copy at the
HYPERREAL mushroom site.

"There are a lot of different products for use in
the kitchen that have an adjustable spray
nozzle."

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in another post:

PF comments - Here we go again with those lousy sprayers. This whole thing seems to have been started by the MMGG ver whatever.

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and another:

PFs' new spore syringe techniques unify the inoculation,
colonization, casing and fruiting process.

...

PSYLOCYBE FANATICUS NEWS REPORT - may 1995

Almost 4 years ago (sept.91), Psylocybe Fanaticus introduced
the PF magic mushroom growing TEK in High Times Magazine.
Since then, PF has received many letters of appreciation
from customers. PF has used this feedback to continually
improve and clarify the technique instructions. PF strives
for perfection in the transmitting of this knowledge.

Since the introduction of the new cultivation TEK, PF has
stated in the ads that the PF TEK makes all other methods,
books, videos and kits obsolete. Admittedly that is quite a
claim, but now there is ample evidence for support.

1. The PF TEK was copied by "Power Products", a rip off
(mail fraud) advertiser in High Times Magazine.
2. Recently the Florida Mycology Research Center in
Pensacola Florida has copied the PF TEK.
3, The PF TEK is appearing on the Internet in various world
wide web psychedelic mushroom pages placed by mycophiles
unknown to PF.
4. Matias Romero mentioned PF very favorably in his "How to
Grow Magic Mushrooms" article in the June 1995 issue of High
Times Magazine. "Psylocybe Fanaticus...Innovative spore-
injecting and growth medium makes this system a winner. The
cutting edge." Matias Romero HT magazine




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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: fiefdom]
    #1754058 - 07/27/03 10:25 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Interesting.

Is it even known who the author of the MMGG is/was?


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #1754300 - 07/28/03 12:22 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Search Result 393
From: Anonymous (nobody@REPLAY.COM)
Subject: Improved Version of the P.F. Tek Notes
This is the only article in this thread
View: Original Format
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 1995/09/14


The P.F. Tek Notes have earned their place in history, but it
is now time for them to step aside. A group of amature
mycologists have just completed a new version (Ver. 2.4) of
their "Magic Mushroom Growers Guide" and the keepers of
Hyper-Real have given it a home.

The URL for the document is:

*

or you can get to it from the index at:

*

The Guide is both simpler to use and more complete than the
P.F. Tek Notes. Numerous improvements and optional optimizations
are included in the guide. The first time cultivator can't
fail if they follow the simple directions provided in the guide.
Not only is this guide better than the P.F. Tek Notes, it's
*FREE*. Hopefully, P.F. will be able to compensate for the
lost sales of their Tek Notes by the increased demand for spore
syringes that this document is sure to bring.

Incidently, the same group of amature mycologists that wrote
this guide are now focused on creating a similar guide for the
very potent P. cyanescens species. The constraints for this new
guide are the same as those that the "Magic Mushroom Growers Guide"
was developed under. An amature has to be able to succeed first time
and with minimal effort and expense. It is expected that this new
guide will be ready in 5 or 6 months.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivati [Re: fiefdom]
    #1754333 - 07/28/03 12:43 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

If you go to www.textfiles.com/drugs/ there are a few interesting early text files about growing cubensis. One of them is by Stephen Pollock, another from 1976 by Adam Gottlieb, and a few others from either the late 80's or early 90's. Hope this helps


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivati [Re: EthanEdwards]
    #1754342 - 07/28/03 12:48 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

The "Furry Freak Brothers" were growing out of their bathtub back in the early `70s :smirk:


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: World Spirit]
    #1755623 - 07/28/03 11:26 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Enter, I love that avatar - what is that exactly, I'm sure it's related to an ancient mushroom ingesting society and all, just wondering if you knew the specifics.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1755630 - 07/28/03 11:31 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I guess the beginning of the Western experience with mushrooms dates to Wasson's trek to Mexico, when, in the early fifteies? Someone probably knows the whole tale off the top of their head. It was published in Life, I think.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: TheHobbit]
    #1756566 - 07/28/03 04:49 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Life magazine May 13 1957.
If you type in google "mercurialis wasson" you can see a copy of the article, named "Seeking the magic mushroom"


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #17405434 - 12/17/12 03:37 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

There is a book on the complete history of psilocybin mushroom cultivation by Jochen Gartz and John W. Allen with over 300 pictures and history of the cultivation of the mushrooms.  It is at this link I found in yahoo about half an hour ago.

http://www.mushroomjohn.org/cult1.html

The book is called, "Psilocybian Mushroom Cultivation: A Brief History."

Sorry guys, I have no way to make a photo of the book cover so I could not post a picture of it.  Maybe someone else knows how to look.  I did see some unbelievable photographs of cultivations in Amsterdam of massive tiers of what were cubes and other species grown in Amsterdam.  Someone told me they are now illegal there.

This book has about 300 photos.  Easy reading.  Also another author wrote a magazine article in Entheogen named Yajai or something that sounds like that is spelled.  I cannot pronounce it and could not find any references to that name on the Internet.  I looked b briefly and that book has a lot of nice photograms, some from Shroomery Mods as well.

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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: meat_master_king]
    #17405464 - 12/17/12 03:53 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Alls I know is, the spores came over from Hawaii on pineapples floating in the ocean.


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: meat_master_king]
    #17405494 - 12/17/12 04:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

mjshroomer lol


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Re: Wanted: Complete history of Psilocybe cubensis cultivation. [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #17405497 - 12/17/12 04:09 AM (3 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Baby_Hitler said:
I would like a link to the most comprehensive documentation of the history of cubensis cultivation on the net.

If there isn't one, I would like to create it.

Anyone who knows stories about cultivation methods, interesting anecdotes/legends or history prior to PF tek/MMGG, early "strains", All versions of the MMGG from 1.0 and up or anything else to contribute please do so here.




It exists dont bother just do your reasearch


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