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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: breeg89]
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breeg89 said:
^ I had been wanting to try it too.  4-oh-met is amazing, but it did not agree with me physically.  I got really bad vasoconstriction.  Honestly, the trip I just had on the real deal from nature makes me never want to use an RC again.


yea the vasoconstriction can get annoying. but otherwise i find it amazing, very mushroomy experience, but with some lsd flavorings imo


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: starfire_xes]
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Sheekle said:
freebase sucks because it degrades quick  be glad u got the fumerate :sunny:


Yeah, that's what I heard, so I am glad I got the fumarate. :thumbup:

starfire_xes said:
Do a 35mg dose and hang on to your ass.  You will be fucking knocked dick silly in about 20 minutes and its well worth it, and something you will be glad you tried once. :awesomenod:


Haha man, I got that from five grams of mushrooms in total darkness.  I don't think I'm ready to be propelled into a network of three dimensional fractals like that for a while, or at least not for so long.  DMT and I still have a little bit of a love-hate relationship, but the short duration makes it much more manageable. :stoned:

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: breeg89]
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breeg89 said:
^ I had been wanting to try it too.  4-oh-met is amazing, but it did not agree with me physically.  I got really bad vasoconstriction.  Honestly, the trip I just had on the real deal from nature makes me never want to use an RC again.


yea 4homet seems to have heart palipations and vasoconstriction noted more commonly than other drugs i dont think i would personally do that stuff


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Sheekle]
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Hope you enjoy your fumarate a lot! I have had a couple Gs stored away for awhile now in vials. You should make sure you store them in air tight vials with a low temperature, dark environment present. At first I had mine at room temperature and it began to degrade/become oxidized :frown: I've since learned from that, and store them in my freezer. A good starting dose for me was 15mg, 10mg left me hanging at border-line threshold with more anxiety than beneficial effects. Either way, good vibes to you friend :smile:

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Papertowels]
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Ah, so the fumarate still oxidizes at a rate worth mentioning?  It arrived in a small plastic bag in a black sealed bag, and I was going to keep it in that.  Perhaps I should just keep in in pill capsules in a cool, dark place?  Would that be sufficient?

And thanks for the advice!  I'll start with 15mg and see where that takes me.  I'll probably just leave the Syrian Rue out of it because I don't want to have to deal with smoking it on campus.  Sure, it's legal and all, but that doesn't mean security won't see me smoking from a pipe and stop me anyway :shrug:.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Psilosomniac]
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Psilosomniac said:
Ah, so the fumarate still oxidizes at a rate worth mentioning?  It arrived in a small plastic bag in a black sealed bag, and I was going to keep it in that.  Perhaps I should just keep in in pill capsules in a cool, dark place?  Would that be sufficient?

And thanks for the advice!  I'll start with 15mg and see where that takes me.  I'll probably just leave the Syrian Rue out of it because I don't want to have to deal with smoking it on campus.  Sure, it's legal and all, but that doesn't mean security won't see me smoking from a pipe and stop me anyway :shrug:.


use dessicants to keep it fro gathering moiosture like store it with some silica gel packets not directly touchng


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Sheekle]
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I should have a few of those desiccant packs left.  I think they're preserving a couple of small mushrooms, but I could take one of them and put them in a pill bottle with the capsuled fumarate.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Psilosomniac]
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So i recently came across some 4-AcO-DMT Fumarate...now im looking to achieve what one normally gets from n,n-dmt, is it possible with the 4-aco-dmt fumarate? and I want to smoke if possible rather than injest. Can anyone help educate me a bit on this particular subject? Thank you.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: MTurple]
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MTurple said:
So i recently came across some 4-AcO-DMT Fumarate...now im looking to achieve what one normally gets from n,n-dmt, is it possible with the 4-aco-dmt fumarate? and I want to smoke if possible rather than injest. Can anyone help educate me a bit on this particular subject? Thank you.


i dont think you can smoke it, however there are some threads on here where people have injected it and supposedly it rivals dmt


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: MTurple]
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You can only smoke the freebase form, so you'll have to convert it.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Psilosomniac]
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i was under the impression that it was too sensitive of a chemical to smoke


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: psyconaught]
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I've read that it's possible to smoke the freebase.  But you're right, it is a rather sensitive chemical in its freebase form :shrug:.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Psilosomniac]
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personally i would just im or iv it if you want that kind of rush from it. plus no need to convert to anything


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: psyconaught]
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i was going to buy some syrian rue for potentiating my 4acodmt and i found some for dirt cheap but i was wondering if quality matters with syrian rue?

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Jesus Cristo]
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Jesus Cristo said:
i was going to buy some syrian rue for potentiating my 4acodmt and i found some for dirt cheap but i was wondering if quality matters with syrian rue?


Of course it matters.... it's a drug.


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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: lifeiswhatyoumake]
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Considoring how dirt cheap 4-aco-dmt is I thought that using rue would be more expensive that just using more 4-aco-dmt

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: PsyPerception]
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PsyPerception said:
Considoring how dirt cheap 4-aco-dmt is I thought that using rue would be more expensive that just using more 4-aco-dmt


Syrian Rue is even cheaper.

I can get 500mg of 4-aco-dmt for about 72 bucks after shipping.  Syrian Rue runs me about 20 bucks an ounce for 10x extract.  Considering it only takes 300mg, that's over 90 doses for 20 bucks, whereas the 4-aco-dmt is 20-25 doses for 72 bucks.

It's definitely economical.

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Psilosomniac]
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This I did not know! I have only ever seen it at rip off prices IRL and dont know where about to buy it online.

Where is best to purchase rue? (If thats sourcing then I appologise, I think its legal but...)

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: PsyPerception]
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Op where are you managing to get that lovely substance?
Please pm me if it is online

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Re: Just got some 4-AcO-DMT fumarate [Re: Masked Chaos]
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Masked Chaos said:
Op where are you managing to get that lovely substance?
Please pm me if it is online


That is illegal, sir.


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