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Zeet

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#17009991 - 10/11/12 05:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17009994 - 10/11/12 05:16 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Best way to tell is with a microscope :wink:

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#17010024 - 10/11/12 05:36 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Fresh out of those man lol. I need a way to tell by the eye. I'm getting it, but still not quite.

There's loads of pins coming through of definite strictipes. Not sure how long they're going to take to mature. It's raining today, so maybe a couple days?

Images added.

Spore print on the way.

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Joie

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17010078 - 10/11/12 06:06 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Suspected lookalikes are Panaeolus acuminatus.

Gill shots like the last one are the most useful photos in this case. If you can do that for the first batch it should be easy to tell.

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#17010095 - 10/11/12 06:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Damn man I knew it! This is so shit.. What luck.. I find a tiny patch of awesome little strictipes and these silly Pans are growing ev-ree far-king WHERE!

So Specimens A (suspected strictipes) look like strictipes to you? It's hardly any difference in the cap! only slightly variation in colour (slightly lighter tan, ever so slight white ring around base and a translucent nipple like tip)

I'll get you some Close up gill shots of all the suspected Strictipes.

Hold tight.

p.s just read that P.acuminatus is active!?
p.s.s It also says that they grow on manure? this field has no manure. It is adjacent to fields with manure in it, but this field is more of an unattended meadow.

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17010114 - 10/11/12 06:21 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Zeet said:

p.s just read that P.acuminatus is active!?
p.s.s It also says that they grow on manure? this field has no manure. It is adjacent to fields with manure in it, but this field is more of an unattended meadow.

It isn't active. It could be a similar Panaeolus, but in any case the field will be awash with manure.

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#17010156 - 10/11/12 06:45 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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#17010229 - 10/11/12 07:14 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Zeet said:

When it says small does it mean trace? as in it wouldn't matter how many you ate, you wouldn't feel anything?

Pretty much that, and anyway those chemicals on wiki are not like psilocybin.

Damn. I'm not sure the first mushroom in that post is the same as the others - it is the likeliest candidate. If you spore print these we will be closer to an answer, because we could hopefully rule out more Pans. (I cannot offer to scope anything reliably for you until I get a new reticule and at least one new lens if not a whole new kit. :blush:

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#17010293 - 10/11/12 07:39 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Haha like I said CONFUSING!

Spore prints in progress. Some have already dropped spores and it's looking black :feelsbadman:

:feelsbadman:

I'm looking for purple hints and brown right?

p.s

I got told off today :frown:

:frown:

two girls told me to move along out of their fields because it was private property.. I went and asked the land owner if I could search for mushrooms there but he said he couldn't allow it because of health and safety liabilities (horses might eat me or something..............) and that I could sue him (which of course I said I wouldn't) He was a nice man but oh well. Not much to do about it.

I'm definitely going back to my little patch of strictipes though in a few days when all those pins mature!

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#17010308 - 10/11/12 07:42 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, brown-purple and not grey-black.

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#17010644 - 10/11/12 09:04 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

not only are you on a pointless quest to id a strictipes, you arent even picking Psilocybes! they all look like Pan acuminatus.

with out a scope theres NO way to tell a P semi and a P strictipes apart, so they are all just liberty caps until you can spend the time to scope out all the different lib varieties.

i keep saying, the last confirmed strictipe weve seen here was growing in the mountains of Ari-fucking-zona on woody debris not in a pasture!!

there is alot of stuff we dont know about this species , its not as cut and dry as a book would let you think.

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17011068 - 10/11/12 10:47 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The first few pics are a Psilocybe, semilanceata or strictipes probably. You also have some Panaeolus acuminatus in your pics. The Panaeolus will be easy to separate without a spore print because it is much more fragile than the Psilocybe.

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#17011098 - 10/11/12 10:54 AM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Cheers for weighing in. :laugh:

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#17011957 - 10/11/12 01:34 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17012088 - 10/11/12 01:54 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like you printed the Panaeolus and not the Psilocybe. I guarantee you that the mushrooms in your first pics will print dark purple brown.

Nothing wrong with eating them if you want. There are no toxic black spored mushrooms (except for Coprinopsis atramentaria if you drink alcohol).

The only toxic purple-brown spored mushroom is Hypholoma fasciculare. Since you don't have any of that, you'll be fine.

And maybe discover a new active Panaeolus.

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#17012167 - 10/11/12 02:08 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I'm afraid not man. I printed ALL the mushrooms bro. Every single print is black.

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Re: Psilocybe Strictipes - CONFUSED!

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#17012181 - 10/11/12 02:10 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

The first mushrooms you posted will not give a black print. They aren't Panaeolus.

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#17012203 - 10/11/12 02:13 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know what to say :X... I have them printing again just to clarify. I have the exact same mushrooms and they are printing on a white card paper this time. I also chucked a section out of one of Specimen A into some agar.

Man this is confusing stuff. Alas.. I won't be going back to that patch till sunday. Will the pins I saw developing be mature by then? It rained HEAVY today.

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#17012216 - 10/11/12 02:14 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

It would be cool if you could get some pics of the microscopic features...

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#17012241 - 10/11/12 02:17 PM (13 years, 10 months ago)

Hmm.. is there a cheap microscope I can buy? around 50 quid?? that would be sufficient?

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