Amanita86 said:

I had a rescue boa that was a pothead no bullshit, long story.  OP I don't know where you got your salvia from but try the 2liter gravity bong "tek".  I broke through many a times on standard leaf with one of those.  Just be careful because if your 20 is anything like what I used to find even in the 5x category you should have flipped your lid.  If you ever get any from a different source don't trick yourself into thinking you have experience with 20 and go overboard.  Be careful.  Think twice about dmt too, if you choose to.

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ImNormal said:

seekeroftruth said:

If you wont do DMT, then definitely don't do Salvia. It can be just as intense, if not more so, and a breakthrough experience (especially for a first timer) is generally much less enjoyable than a DMT breakthrough.

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It just seems like a very 'hard' drug. And he doesn't like anything in the crystal/powder form. + he read about how you may not be able to produce it when you die if you do it earlier in life.

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ImNormal said:

My pet snake wants his first trip. Previous to this he has only smoked cannabis. He's also done Salvia 20x but did not break through successfully, so it was pointless.
He realises these things are not for recreational use and wants to use them for educational purposes. To see things he's never seen before, to be enlightened.
He's considering what to do for his first trip, he wants to experience open-eye visuals but not something really intense, something he can ride and enjoy.
The options are Salvia 20x (already has it), LSA - Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds (easily obtainable), LSD or Shrooms (both very hard to get and expensive). He said DMT is definitely a no go, he will never do it.

Anyway, he wants advice on what to do for his first trip.

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k00laid said:

ImNormal said:

seekeroftruth said:

If you wont do DMT, then definitely don't do Salvia. It can be just as intense, if not more so, and a breakthrough experience (especially for a first timer) is generally much less enjoyable than a DMT breakthrough.

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It just seems like a very 'hard' drug. And he doesn't like anything in the crystal/powder form. + he read about how you may not be able to produce it when you die if you do it earlier in life.

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holy fuck. enough of this bullshit.


where on god's green earth did you read that dmt is produced when you die?

and then where the fuck did you read that you wont produce it when you die if you smoke it previously.


here is a quote from the famous Dr Rick Strassman. he is more or less fucking apologizing for retards believing everything he wrote.

Quote:

Addendum by Rick Strassman
"I did my best in the DMT book to differentiate between what is known, and what I was conjecturing about (based upon what is known), regarding certain aspects of DMT dynamics. However, it's amazing how ineffective my efforts seem to have been. So many people write me, or write elsewhere, about DMT, and the pineal, assuming that the things I conjecture about are true. When I was writing the book, I thought I was clear enough, and repeating myself would have gotten tedious.

"We don't know whether DMT is made in the pineal. I muster a lot of circumstantial evidence supporting a reason to look long and hard at the pineal, but we do not yet know. There are data suggesting urinary DMT rises in psychotic patients when their psychosis is worse. However, we don't know whether DMT rises during dreams, meditation, near-death, death, birth or any other endogenous altered state. To the extent those states resemble those brought on by giving DMT, it certainly makes one wonder if endogenous DMT might be involved, and if it were, it would explain a lot. But we don't know yet. Even if the pineal weren't involved, that would have little overall effect on my theories regarding a role for DMT in endogenous altered states, because we do know that the gene involved in DMT synthesis is present in many organs, particularly lung. If the pineal made DMT, it would tie up a lot of loose ends regarding this enigmatic little organ. But people seem to live pretty normals lives without a pineal gland; for example, when it has had to be removed because of a tumor.

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http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt_article2.shtml