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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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Terry the difference is very easy , volvacea have a brown to blackish pileus.. diplasia is dirty white look the posting and pct of the indonesian guy , diplasia is also less conical

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: sparkle]
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sparkle said:
That's funny Packadee.
JD, here it's eaten at egg stage only. When it sporulates, the spores are actually discernible to the tongue and quite unpleasant. And no you don't peel it. The skin is another texture altogether but not tough.


You are correct Sparkle, it's eaten at egg stage.
I forgot to pick up until in the afternoon they were like this.
I stir fried the mushroom and pork.
The mushroom tasted bad and made me not want to eat straw mushroom again.



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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: packdee58]
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Well, I am glad to know this.

I let my eggs mature to get some spore prints.

I only got a couple of good ones, but am happy.

Take care,

JD


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: packdee58]
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packdee58 said:
sparkle said:
That's funny Packadee.
JD, here it's eaten at egg stage only. When it sporulates, the spores are actually discernible to the tongue and quite unpleasant. And no you don't peel it. The skin is another texture altogether but not tough.


You are correct Sparkle, it's eaten at egg stage.
I forgot to pick up until in the afternoon they were like this.
I stir fried the mushroom and pork.
The mushroom tasted bad and made me not want to eat straw mushroom again.





Is that cotton waste with  paddy straw on top?

Lipa

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Javadog]
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Packadee, that's a great grow. What is your substrate, I always thought you need to compost the straw but that looks fresh. And mostly I ssee their straw piled high but yours is not. What is that on top? Lipa, you beat me to it but I'll post anyway

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: sparkle]
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This is my procedures.
1. Dissolve 3 liters of molasses into 200 liters of water.
Trow 3 magic balls into the solution. The magic ball is anaerobic micro-organisms so just cover the container do not disturb it for 4-5 days.
Adjust PH to 6-7 with quick lime.

2.  Submerge straw into the broth in #1 for one night. Pile up the wet straw on the floor.

3.  Tear spawn it into small pieces and mix with  sterilized substrate prepared for sajor-caju and store it before using 2-3 days.(My VV spawn is made of cotton waste and bean shell)

4.  Scatter the prepared spawn on the top of straw pile full area. Cover with thin layer of wet straw and top with sterilized substrate prepared for sajor-caju to cover the straw.

5.  Cover with plastic sheet over bamboo structure.

6.  Monitor the temperature for 4-5 days, it should be 34-38 degrees C.
  But that week the room temperature was lower than 30 degrees C and the straw pile was not thick enough to keep the heat produced by microorganism.  So I used a spot light to bring the temperature up over 30 (I may pay electric bill more than the value of mushroom)
Day sixth can see the pin head then open plastic sheet for 2 hours twice a day



Clay is used to be base material to make the ball.
Rice bran, rice flour and some herbs are mixed to be a suitable
nutrient for selected micro-organisms.
The micro-organisms produce enzimes to digest straw into
smaller molecul that Volvariella volvacea can use directly.



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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: packdee58]
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So basically you are composting one substrate until it heats and then thinning it out with another until the thickness of the composting pile will hold the right temperature. Then you spawn it. Is this basically what I am picking up here.

I too use a weak molasses mixture to heat up my straw piles. I noticed if you get them to 140 and cut the pile in half vertically it usually can maintain the heat necessary for the paddy straw although I am currently waiting for spawn to be ready for my first attempt. Just practicing maintaining a proper substrate temp with this technique. I usually place the pile on concrete to heat and cover with a tarp in the sun to help the temp rise quickly. by the second day I have around 120-140 F. i found by the 3rd day I can cut the pile down and keep around 100F for a week or so.

All I need is a good strain and I am good to go.

Lipa

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: lipa]
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You can also use the commercially available EM for doing the same, we use it already 5 years and it works very fine

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: bitepourrie]
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I'm not familiar with many mushroom species, but these are definitely some of the more unique ones I've seen.  Very cool

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