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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
let me clarify, as of yet the frutarian end has yet to back a single one of it's claims


Most people who read up on how to change their diet don't keep a journal of citations and stuff that supports the stuff they learn along the way. :shrug:

More people who devote themselves to radical diets should do such a thing so that such deviant diets can become more established.

aND A person can't simply talk about fruitarianism without pointing out that many things that aren't normally seen as fruits are fruits, like olives, for which the sugar criticism holds no ground and olives are much higher in fat and more substantial than what a lot of poeople think of when they think of fruits.


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Northerner said:
I agree psilocybin is smokable though.

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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i don't know how the hell i missed this post! prisoner, the video you poster is NOT from Dr. Morses OFFICIAL utube, it even say's that right there! i linked the official channel earlier, and then you went and found some hole in the wall channel that has no affiliation to Dr. Morse whatsoever! anybody who commented on your video clearly don't know a damn thing about this man and his teachings.

Prisoner#1 said:
let's take a look at all these comments
[url=



now i'm going to post the exact same video as you which has MANY more comments for you to read! see the difference!? there are 7 videos in this cancer series, and this first one is just boring preliminary info. by the 4th vid he's on a roll, and it only gets better right up until the very last one. by the last video you will have heard the best explanation on cancer ever!


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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youtube comments dont make the information valid, it's been up for 7 mos, has
8000 views, 188 likes and a few dozen comments, Rebeca Black had 36 million
views and 500,000 comments and in only 3 more months than morse's video

I guess I should be listening to her instead of Robert Morse because she has
more comments and her dietary advice is "have a bowl of cereal and party"

maybe you should try discussing this diet and defending it with scientific
evidence instead of telling us the video has so many youtube comments,
everyone knows there's a bunch of idiots on the internet, some were even mean
to rebecca black


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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:rofl2:

I just had fruit for breakfast, am I going to die :omgz:


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
youtube comments dont make the information valid, it's been up for 7 mos, has
8000 views, 188 likes and a few dozen comments, Rebeca Black had 36 million
views and 500,000 comments and in only 3 more months than morse's video

I guess I should be listening to her instead of Robert Morse because she has
more comments and her dietary advice is "have a bowl of cereal and party"

maybe you should try discussing this diet and defending it with scientific
evidence instead of telling us the video has so many youtube comments,
everyone knows there's a bunch of idiots on the internet, some were even mean
to rebecca black



dude, there isn't scientific research...all the intellectuals are hung up on antiquated theories that don't get true curative results. this is somewhat cutting edge. dr. morse don't have the ability to get scientific. he's too busy curing dying people! i had to wait 6 months to get a damn appointment with the guy! that's how busy he is. he's even somewhat let himself go over the years because he's too busy helping others. why the fuck would he being spiritual and all want to stay on this planet longer anyways?


and mellowparty, i like how you tried to use a isolated fructose study to compare with whole fruits! nature is the best chemist period! notice how i'm against herbal extracts? i'm also against isolated vitamin supplements? they do more harm than good. i got two words for you, antagonistic chemistry! nature provides a balance.

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
dude, there isn't scientific research...all the intellectuals are hung up on antiquated theories that don't get true curative results.


antequated... like this 100 year old frutarian diet

Quote:
this is somewhat cutting edge. dr. morse don't have the ability to get scientific. he's too busy curing dying people!





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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
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people like you act like modern science has all the answers to everything. we are not even close to understanding even half of what the functions of the human body really are! for example, the liver is a chemical transmutation factory. i bet modern technology wouldn't even be able to build a facility that could carry out it's entire functions. even if we could, i bet that facility would take up the space of a few dozen acres. modern science is still in it's infancy!

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres] * 1
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Hemispheres said:
too many grains. the glue in grains literally destroys the bowels!  grains are irritating to cells and cause excessive mucous production. when the bowel walls and villi get get coated in glue and mucous, nutrition absorption is hindered.


WORD.


I cut out all meat in February of this year [2012] and have more recently focused my diet on more raw foods [three, four months?] and less gluten. I have a ten-year diagnosis of Inflammatory  Bowel Disease [Crohn's with a 23cm resection of my small intestine just past the ileosecral valve] and have been struggling with finding a proper diet for a decade.

I fucked myself over throughout highschooll and college, eating with complacency to the system's food, drinking a lot & smoking cigs. Thanksgiving of 2011 I was in the ER with a bacterial infection of my colon from lots of booze [which was rare then] and a LOT of raw red&green peppers [nightshades fuck me up]

After being nearly gluten-free for a couple months I caved last week [my sister's birthday] and ate cake and leftover cake and brownies and CRAP for a week, and also had some other CRAP where well, now, I'm just getting over the pain in my rear [literally] that I caused myself from going off my diet. Eating that much wheat & processed crap I re-activated my IBD and the tunneling in the tissue of my rectum that had been a problem for many years after my surgery [all throughout highschool...doctor said "it's normal. I can increase your meds but they won't control that"]

Yes we eat far too many mucus forming foods. Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease [read: dis-ease] along with not having nearly enough beneficial bacteria in  our system to compensate for all the CRAP.

I'll post a scanned section of Mantak Chia's "Cosmic Detox" in a thread I plan to make about Food Alkalinity. It has been of great reference to me and want to share it to everyone I can.


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
people like you act like modern science has all the answers to everything. we are not even close to understanding even half of what the functions of the human body really are! for example, the liver is a chemical transmutation factory.


so very true, the liver filters for the body which is why detoxing isnt
necessary, why it;s quack medicine, if people needed to detox regularly
we'd have never grown to have a population of 6 billion, we'd have died
off 2 million year ago but the important thing is, modern science has a
far better understanding than you want to believe, you've stated several
times that degrees dont matter yet you're relying on someone with
fraudulent degrees for information on what's healthy


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i bet modern technology wouldn't even be able to build a facility that could carry out it's entire functions. even if we could, i bet that facility would take up the space of a few dozen acres. modern science is still in it's infancy!


see, now you're going way back into nonsense land, modern surgery has
allowed for doctards to take a chunk of liver from someone that's a
suitable tissue match and graft it to someone that'sin need of the liver,
they can do the same with most organs such as lungs, heart and eyes


can a fruit diet replace your eyes? the liver's function is storage,
distribution and filtration, it's pretty simple really, something that
isnt that difficult to achieve on the scale you're talking about but
the real challenge would be to scale it down to a portable size than a
a place as large as a few dozen acres. of course you'd be wrong again in
what you believe

http://www.redorbit.com/news/health/1361132/new_artificial_liver_tests_hepalifes_picm19_demonstrate_advantages_over_todays/

now why not show us the efficacy of these fruitarian diets instead of
touting the youtube comments and making absurdly false claims


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: no.reservations]
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no.reservations said:
Yes we eat far too many mucus forming foods. Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease


would you mind backing this stuff up with science? the only place I see this
kind of stuff is on websites pushing bad fad diets that do nothing to improve
your health. unless I look in places like this

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: no.reservations]
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no.reservations said:
Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease [read: dis-ease]


BINGO!:thumbup:

at least somebody here has a damn clue!

the acid side of chemistry damages cells, and base chemistry is essential is for cells to regenerate. it's really freaking simple!

true health will never be attained if one eats according to the FDA's food guide pyramid. then when one health get's compromised (due to acidity) they can go get some FDA approved drugs. it's only the most lucrative industry on the planet!

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
no.reservations said:
Yes we eat far too many mucus forming foods. Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease


would you mind backing this stuff up with science? the only place I see this
kind of stuff is on websites pushing bad fad diets that do nothing to improve
your health. unless I look in places like this

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html


just do an experiment yourself. put some acid on your skin. it burns don't it? acids damage cells, it's common sense.

every piece of food you put in your mouth is going to fall somewhere on the ph scale. and there's only 2 sides to chemistry!

the blood NEEDS to be kept around 7.4 ph

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
just do an experiment yourself. put some acid on your skin. it burns don't it? acids damage cells, it's common sense.


common sense isnt so common, I've been covered from the waist down in
battery acid, it's sulfuric acid, no it didnt burn but it did deteriorate
the fabric in my jeans and the whole front just came apart a few hours later
as soon as it contacted water, I even got some of the acid on my face and in
my mouth, it's kind acidic strangely enough, like not quite lemon juice and
not quite vinegar. I've also had skin contact with muratic/hydrochloric acid
and phosphoric acid

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every piece of food you put in your mouth is going to fall somewhere on the ph scale. and there's only 2 sides to chemistry!

the blood NEEDS to be kept around 7.4 ph


you know the thing about your body is you can eat acidic foods, neutral
foods or alkaline foods and it's not going to change the PH in your body,
how about you do an experiment. check the PH of your blood, I bet it;s
around 7.4 since that's normally the PH of blood, then check the PH of the
blood of a dozen other people and see if it's not within a few points of
that 7.4 range because you know... blood has a PH of around 7.4 which is
normal and your body regulates


so yet again you've shown us the pointlessness of the frutarian fad diet

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood#Narrow_range_of_pH_values


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
every piece of food you put in your mouth is going to fall somewhere on the ph scale. and there's only 2 sides to chemistry!

the blood NEEDS to be kept around 7.4 ph


you know the thing about your body is you can eat acidic foods, neutral
foods or alkaline foods and it's not going to change the PH in your body,
how about you do an experiment. check the PH of your blood, I bet it;s
around 7.4 since that's normally the PH of blood, then check the PH of the
blood of a dozen other people and see if it's not within a few points of
that 7.4 range because you know... blood has a PH of around 7.4 which is
normal and your body regulates


no shit the blood is kept base, if it's not you will die!
the blood is only 25% of interstitial fluid. there's a much larger fluid system called the Lymphatic System!  it's 3 times larger than the blood system. it's the lymph system (immune system) that deals with cellular waste (which are acids). the mayo brothers even admitted that blood tests are only 25% accurate. and the human body only has 2 fluids!

the blood is designed to dump ALL excess wastes (acids) into the lymph. it's built in protection!

the big difference is lymph is a thick lipid based fluid, and it has no heart to pump it! this is why mucous is such an issue. humans are suffering from lymphatic fluid constipation! the cellular wastes (acidic) aren't being eliminated out of the body efficiently. therefore causing cellular damage!

how do YOU explain what causes cancer? what is cancer if it's not damaged cells? if acids are not what damages cells, i ask you what does?

what foods besides fruits have the astringent power to dislodge mucous? vegetables can barely move that thick fluid, maybe soften it up a bit. and all other foods CAUSE mucous production!

please answer all my proposed questions, thank you..

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
no.reservations said:
Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease [read: dis-ease]


BINGO!:thumbup:

at least somebody here has a damn clue!

the acid side of chemistry damages cells, and base chemistry is essential is for cells to regenerate. it's really freaking simple!

true health will never be attained if one eats according to the FDA's food guide pyramid. then when one health get's compromised (due to acidity) they can go get some FDA approved drugs. it's only the most lucrative industry on the planet!


ok now this sounds like complete bs either provide some peer-reviewed studies (not quack books) or take your bunk science away. I want to see an explanation as to why alkaline (lol) chemistry regenerates cells and how.


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: mellowparty]
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mellowparty said:
Hemispheres said:
no.reservations said:
Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease [read: dis-ease]


BINGO!:thumbup:

at least somebody here has a damn clue!

the acid side of chemistry damages cells, and base chemistry is essential is for cells to regenerate. it's really freaking simple!

true health will never be attained if one eats according to the FDA's food guide pyramid. then when one health get's compromised (due to acidity) they can go get some FDA approved drugs. it's only the most lucrative industry on the planet!



ok now this sounds like complete bs either provide some peer-reviewed studies (not quack books) or take your bunk science away. I want to see an explanation as to why alkaline (lol) chemistry regenerates cells and how.


alkaline chemistry DON'T regenerate cells. cells regenerate themselves! they just cannot do so in an acidic environment.
when you cut your skin, it heals right? hence cellular regeneration is possible.

standard human diet is 80%acidic to 20%alkaline. in nature you see the exact opposite. humans are out of their element, so they don't have a clue to the regenerative properties within.

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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
how do YOU explain what causes cancer? what is cancer if it's not damaged cells? if acids are not what damages cells, i ask you what does?


there's no specific answer because there's a lot of variables some of those
variables include environmental factors such as exposure alkaline materials
such as lye, something that just doesnt get much more 'base' but then you also
have to look at one of the leading factors, genetics. if you dont have a
genetic predisposition to cancer then the odds are you'll never contract
cancer but based on your questions wouldnt everyone have cancer unless they
were avoiding acidic foods such as many fruits?


in fact based on this chart, it appears you'll be bedridden with cancer in no time

http://pickyourown.org/food_acidity_ph_list.htm


Hemispheres said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Quote:
every piece of food you put in your mouth is going to fall somewhere on the ph scale. and there's only 2 sides to chemistry!

the blood NEEDS to be kept around 7.4 ph


you know the thing about your body is you can eat acidic foods, neutral
foods or alkaline foods and it's not going to change the PH in your body,
how about you do an experiment. check the PH of your blood, I bet it;s
around 7.4 since that's normally the PH of blood, then check the PH of the
blood of a dozen other people and see if it's not within a few points of
that 7.4 range because you know... blood has a PH of around 7.4 which is
normal and your body regulates


no shit the blood is kept base, if it's not you will die!
the blood is only 25% of interstitial fluid. there's a much larger fluid system called the Lymphatic System!  it's 3 times larger than the blood system. it's the lymph system (immune system) that deals with cellular waste (which are acids). the mayo brothers even admitted that blood tests are only 25% accurate. and the human body only has 2 fluids!

the blood is designed to dump ALL excess wastes (acids) into the lymph. it's built in protection!

the big difference is lymph is a thick lipid based fluid, and it has no heart to pump it! this is why mucous is such an issue. humans are suffering from lymphatic fluid constipation! the cellular wastes (acidic) aren't being eliminated out of the body efficiently. therefore causing cellular damage!


what the fuck are you on about, loads of yammering and nothing being said

the lymphatic system is also around 7.4 PH in fact with the exception
stomach acid and urine, 2 additional fluids found in the body that you claim
arent there, everything including saliva is around 7.4 PH, why would hat be?
because your lymphatic system regulates the PH of your body but depending on
what you eat your urine can range from 4 to 8, would urine be how you're
measuring the PH of the body... if so, big LOL


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what foods besides fruits have the astringent power to dislodge mucous? vegetables can barely move that thick fluid, maybe soften it up a bit. and all other foods CAUSE mucous production!




once again, you've failed to state anything that validates your claims

first, define this mucous, what's a mucous causing food, why should mucous be dislodged?


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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No I think you haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about here. The complexity of the regeneration process will overwhelm you, its orders of magnitude more complex that some random acidic-basic duality. There are thousands of proteins and other molecules involved and they operate at a pH optimum near neutral and complex buffer systems exist to maintain that optimum. But of course to understand that you require some actual science with thing that you can test and prove in the lab...oh wait science is evil and everyone is out to get you.

I suggest you stop posting ridiculous nonsense cause its getting annoying as fuck.


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
standard human diet is 80%acidic to 20%alkaline. in nature you see the exact opposite. humans are out of their element, so they don't have a clue to the regenerative properties within.


please, for once back up one of your claims with scientific evidence


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Re: Any Raw Vegans in here? [Re: Hemispheres]
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Hemispheres said:
no.reservations said:
Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease [read: dis-ease]


BINGO!:thumbup:

at least somebody here has a damn clue!

the acid side of chemistry damages cells, and base chemistry is essential is for cells to regenerate. it's really freaking simple!

true health will never be attained if one eats according to the FDA's food guide pyramid. then when one health get's compromised (due to acidity) they can go get some FDA approved drugs. it's only the most lucrative industry on the planet!


What exactly is true health compared to normal health?

Hemispheres said:
Prisoner#1 said:
no.reservations said:
Yes we eat far too many mucus forming foods. Yes we eat a HIGHLY acidic diet which is the root cause of most disease


would you mind backing this stuff up with science? the only place I see this
kind of stuff is on websites pushing bad fad diets that do nothing to improve
your health. unless I look in places like this

http://www.quackwatch.org/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/DSH/coral2.html


just do an experiment yourself. put some acid on your skin. it burns don't it? acids damage cells, it's common sense.

every piece of food you put in your mouth is going to fall somewhere on the ph scale. and there's only 2 sides to chemistry!

the blood NEEDS to be kept around 7.4 ph


Go stick your hand in a super base, something like Butyl Lithium or Sodium Hydride, and tell me that doesn't burn and damage your cells. It's common sense.


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