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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: OICU812]
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OICU812 said:
solarity said:
So I guess you keep it at 25c+ for the VV the drop it to 15c for the Oysters!?

If I ever get a VV culture I will give this a go, I have the set up to be able to do it.


No, he was referring to Pleurotus djamor, Pleurotus citrinopileatus and Pleurotus cystidiosus.  Sorry, I should have been more specific.  The colder strains would problematic, as you mentioned.


I am working with pulmonarius, and will try it with that, if I can
get clean V.v. spawn....right now I have only V. bombycina.

JD


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Javadog]
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Attached is the paper from bitepourrie.


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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Is this what y'all are talking about?

http://item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=250908074103&siteId=0&isClassified=false

... or this ...

http://www.hormex.com/products/liquid-concentrate/

If so ...

Can I use it productively on kings?

At what stage, after colonization and consolidation, to induce pins?

How much?

What other benefits vis-a-vis kings?

EDIT: Actually, that paper has a lot of useful info ... maybe I'll just have to play with these hormones and see what happens for myself.


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Not Quite Social]
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all mushrooms react on growing hormones, from mycelium formation until fruiting.The impact is different on all species, we use it on Calocybe, Volvariella and lentinus.I have no experience on using it on Pleurotus as we do not cultivate Pleurotus.
Had last year some correspondance with scientist in my home country who works in the National mushroom institute and he told me there were on going trials on oysters for the account of a private spawn company but was not at liberty to divulge any details he only told me that it seemed very usefull in the first two stages  agar and grain spawn to produce a very fast growing grain spawn that reduced the time to fruiting considerably

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: bitepourrie]
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checked yr ref not quite fruited(lol). No its not these roducts.We work with pure hormone concentrates we buy from chemical labs

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: bitepourrie]
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Ah, Okay, thank you, bitepourrie.  I think I'm on the right track now.

http://www.alfa.com/en/mp100w.pgm?item=A17843

This, Gibberllic Acid, appears to be a good hormone to learn to use.

Here, in the States, I guess Sigma would be a good supplier.  For example ...

http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/product/sigma/k3378?lang=en&region=US

Thanks again!


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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Terry M said:
Here's a paper I just found on the some growth tests run using ODA:

http://wsmbmp.org/proceedings/2nd%20international%20conference/MBMP%20Proceedings%20of%20the%202nd%20International%20Conference%20(White%20book)/59%20Role%20of%2010-oxo-trans-8-decenoic%20Acid%20in%20the%20Cultivated%20Mushroom,%20Agaricus%20bisporus.pdf

It's an entire paper, not just the abstract. I googled the one you found, JD, and to my horror, saw that ScienceDirect controlled it. I don't mind paying a reasonable price for a single good scientific paper pdf, but $41.95?


WOW!!  That was a good read, plenty of food for thought and lots of experiments to run.

Thank you BiteP for bringing this to light.  (still so much to learn)

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Not Quite Social said:
Here, in the States, I guess Sigma would be a good supplier.  For example ...




I've tried to buy reagents from Sigma-Aldrich, but was unable to because they restrict sales to approved medical or scientific labs which can supply compliance or regulatory certification.


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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Hey, ain't this America?  What the hell?  Fascist scientists .... :grin:


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Not Quite Social]
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Not Quite Social said:
Hey, ain't this America?  What the hell?  Fascist scientists .... :grin:


And all I was trying to do was buy Lactophenol Blue stain, 1.0 N hydrochloric acid, and 95-98% sulfuric acid! :laugh:  Time was a kid could find these in his chemistry set!

Fortunately, there are other sources, if you look for them.


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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hi guys i taught you live in USA not on Mars ??? ever heard of Ebay , there are several sellers of pure hormone stuff:confused:

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: bitepourrie]
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bitepourrie said:
hi guys i taught you live in USA not on Mars ??? ever heard of Ebay , there are several sellers of pure hormone stuff:confused:


That's one of my prime "other sources!" :smile:


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Terry M]
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Ebay works for me, too :thumbup:

I'll check it out and order a little "GA" if I can find some, and apply it to some of my production blocks, not others, and report any difference.  I will be fruiting kings in a week or so.

I called these guys and they said they'd sell GA or anything that wasn't hazardous to me. :thumbup:

http://www.caissonlabs.com/product.php?id=114&gclid=CMu8urnh_bACFWyHtgodvkPELQ

Good luck ... I hope you try some of this stuff, too, Terry, and share results, too.  I'm going to spritz my chicken with it :grin:


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Not Quite Social] * 1
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Not Quite Social said:
Hey, ain't this America?  What the hell?  Fascist scientists .... :grin:


Welcome to the America of today.  Liberty is a thing of the past.

We traded it for Security, and even that deal is not working out so well.

JD


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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: Javadog]
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Hi you Volvariella lovers. Does this look like your Paddy straw mushroom? People in this town culture this Volvariella but somehow it doesn't seem to be Volvacea. It's also much bigger. I posted it in the ID forum but I thought I'd ask you VV experts as well.
This is a species that people here in North Philippines know as paddy straw mushroom. Somehow they do not look like the ones I see in Manila, Bangkok and Taiwan. It is obviously edible since they sell it in the market regularly. Growing in mung bean hull. 7"-8" diameter cap 7" tall. The base is as much as 2" diameter. Pink spore print well brown pink. Thanks

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: sparkle]
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hi sparki , whats on the pict is Volvariela volvacea but its not te ordinary kind.There exist several substrains, one come from norther Thailand and is cultivated by a company "anonbiotech". What i see is what they call the giant volvariella.Would love to have culture of these. If youconsult Mendoz(1938 paper) he cites about 6 different kind of Volvariella.You know you have over 7,000 islands and there is a large diversity in the species. Did you got a culture of these ????

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: bitepourrie]
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Been looking for a strong VV strain. Since it's VV season here, now is my chance. And they're all from spores. I did clone this one but I want to have like 20 others and look for the best one. I have the giant VV from Thailand but it's still in the bottle. So I'm certain this VV is a local. I hope it's faster than the one from Thailand

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: sparkle]
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Thats your big chance , put bothe strains on each side of a bottle and let them fuse ,cut out the fused rhizo strands(will need good eyes or microscope)about 15 pct will probably fuse the rest is basura
Thats how you get a  hulk volva strain

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: sparkle]
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sparkle said:
Been looking for a strong VV strain. Since it's VV season here, now is my chance. And they're all from spores. I did clone this one but I want to have like 20 others and look for the best one. I have the giant VV from Thailand but it's still in the bottle. So I'm certain this VV is a local. I hope it's faster than the one from Thailand


What's the criteria of strong VV strain Sparkle? Would You like to explain ?

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Re: Paddy Straw--Volvariella volvacea [Re: BJML]
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I guess the fastest, most vigorous strain. I have 3 now but they seem to be the same speed.

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