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Failed - HBWR
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Last night, I crushed up 6 (the quality was good, just to rule that out) HBWR seeds. (This is my first time doing this)

I know there are a ton of things on here, but that's the thing, I have no idea which thing to try.

I put them in pure lemon juice for around thirty minutes, in the refrigerator, stirring occasionally. I then added cold distilled water to it, let it soak for a little bit more, took it out, added stevia to it, I basically made lemonade, and drank it. I did feel something slight after that, about an hour later I ate one seed, held in my mouth for 10 minutes, and spit out crap. Nothing changed, so then I took six more seeds, powdered them, put them in medicine cup with water and juice, and held this in my mouth for 15 minutes or so.

That's how much I took, yes I did feel a kind of heavy body feeling, and it was just a weird, weird feeling. I had a horrible, BAD time trying to sleep, I kept waking up, it was weird. I was very sedated.

But I had no visuals and it was that much good of anything.

What is the way (without using an alcohol extraction) to trip on these seeds? I do not care about the nausea or bad taste, just to point that out.

Over all the high I had last night was just sedating, no visuals.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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yea i never had any luck at all, i tried to do like a nonpolar extraction got nothing noticeable :shrug: never bother again and its sort of a waste of money i figure its better to just grow the stuff if you really want to experiment


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said:
yea i never had any luck at all, i tried to do like a nonpolar extraction got nothing noticeable :shrug: never bother again and its sort of a waste of money i figure its better to just grow the stuff if you really want to experiment



Well, I did get sedated, so it wasn't a total waste, I just need to know the correct method I guess? Who knows, I have a good amount more, so Ill keep trying, this is basically my experiment I guess.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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yea some people really are all about it and there are many methods for extracting i think some people even put it on blotter, in highschool someone tried selling me LSA on paper but i didn't want to pay for it. idk i'd rather just grow mushrooms if i can't find acid... its pretty easy and fun way faster than growing weed and way cheaper.

maybe you just need a better extraction though, but be careful i think that stuff is hard on your cardiovascular system.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said:
yea some people really are all about it and there are many methods for extracting i think some people even put it on blotter, in highschool someone tried selling me LSA on paper but i didn't want to pay for it. idk i'd rather just grow mushrooms if i can't find acid... its pretty easy and fun way faster than growing weed and way cheaper.

maybe you just need a better extraction though, but be careful i think that stuff is hard on your cardiovascular system.


Thanks, Ill for sure look into the negative health effects. I havn't eaten anything, and I'm not going to all day (except something after the gym today) Later after having a good workout day and just a good day in general I'll do this (http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73035)

It's kind of weird, today I'm having all these positive self talk moments and I feel like I'm gonna have a great day, I'm over all in a great mood :grin:

Has to be from the woodrose. I'm usually like this all day :|, blank


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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someone was bitching to me a while ago about how LSA is so amazing while i was on the side that it is really lame from my experience and most peoples experience. idk i believe it had some potential but as of now not really worth my time.

let me know if you get any profound experiences from this stuff and what other extractions you try, if you proceed with experimenting that is. i will try to dig up some more information i got later, i am off to sleep now though.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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Edited by Marflix (09/19/21 08:38 AM)

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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: Marflix]
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Marflix said:
why not do a standard cold water extraction?



I saw multiple times that the CWE takes 24 hours, and can produce lessened effects, I want strong effects for sure, that link I posted above sounds solid for what I want.

He suggests 13 seeds , but 9 should be a fun dose.
1. Deshell HBWR (Hawiian strain, Argyreia nervosa) seeds to their small compact shape. SWIM usually just takes off the bark-like coating.
2. Crush seeds with pliers, then a mortar and pestle (or makeshift one), into as fine powder as possible.
3. Empty teabag. Put powder inside. Fold and staple bag shut.
4. Shake the powder to a thin constistancy within the bag (enough surface area exposed) and place teabag into mouth: On top of tounge pressing against roof, under tounge, etc.
5. Keep in there for a while. Let saliva build up and swish it around a lot.
6. Swallow the saliva that builds up within the first 15min, if you please. Orange juice is a good chaser.
7. Take it out and to make sure the powder isn't in one large spot (enough surface area exposed).
8. Place it back in for another 15 minutes and use the same method (swishing a lot of saliva), but you probably shouldn't swallow any more saliva.
9. It starts to get nasty, so take it out.
10. Place the teabag in a glass of cold water if you'd like to extract the remaining LSAs.
11. Press it around with a spoon for another 15min.
12. Swish water around in mouth for a few minutes then spit it out.
13. Enjoy the trip

Notes
During the comeup (1.5h after starting this method) SWIY might feel tired and in a dreamy state.
Once SWIY peaks, they should be in a clearer state of mind.
Peak should be 2-3h after SWIY started using the teabag method.
Pupils should get large if SWIY did it correctly.
This is by far the best HBWR method. SWIM felt like a ghost while he peaked.
Tell SWIY to have a pleasent dream.
It shouldn't last too long. SWIY should come down 5h after putting it in his mouth.

Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73035#ixzz1weyifG7o


More notes from same user..
It REALLY works if SWIY does it right. Use pliers to crush the 13 seeds directly into a mortal and pestle. POWDER as much as possible. Load into teabag, staple shut, then put on top of tongue with greatest surface area. Tongue it a lot and swoosh your saliva around for 10 minutes. Then SPIT (stuff is NASTY don't swallow it). Do this tree times (30min total). SWIM likes to chew and swallow 2 more Hawiian strain seeds. The LSA obsorbtion compares to more than one hit of LSD. Probably about three. Try and have fun, SWIY will come up SLOW and WELL

Read more: http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=73035#ixzz1weyifG7o


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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The only time I tried LSA (HBWR seeds) I got first a feeling of being intoxicated : dizzy, hard to walk, like with alcohol. Then I got a huge huge euphoria feeling that lasted something like 1h30 / 2h, it was much stronger than what I experienced with Molly or anything else, then a trippy feeling that lasted 2h / 2h30. No visuals, just distorsion.

After this, I had a hard come down... feeling like my mind was between the trip and the reality. Not smooth at all, not fun at all, lasted 1h and then a mild stimulation feeling.

However, the whole bodyload was sooooooo huge it was not worth the trick, I could not do anything, got pain in the legs, in the back, had to be on sofa all day.

The next day, I was veryyyy happy I can remember very well, then I became a bit depressed for 1 week...

It s not worth it IMO.

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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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how much are HBRW seeds... vs. 1 spore syringe... someone help on the math of this equation that equals what is worth my time.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said:
how much are HBRW seeds... vs. 1 spore syringe... someone help on the math of this equation that equals what is worth my time.



50 good quality HBWR seeds are for me $29.00 including shipping.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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and i can get 3 syringes for about $35... and so can you. and grow over an oz considering your not making cultures as a beginner grower and multiplying your grow by a factor of how much mush experience you have...


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said:
and i can get 3 syringes for about $35... and so can you. and grow over an oz considering your not making cultures as a beginner grower and multiplying your grow by a factor of how much mush experience you have...


I am in the process of moving right now, I have looked into the PF Tek method.

By January, I'm supposed to be moved into a house my moms boyfriend owns ($300 a month :wink: )with my grandpa. Can't wait!

Many things are going to happen in that house..many things.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: MrMunchies]
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good luck bro... live your dreams, when i moved out it costed about 300 to live way outside of town and then i moved in town for 500 (it was almost winter and i didn't want to bike 6 miles in the snow to work lol) and thats when shit really happened. but be careful living in family's property because that my mess up privacy.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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You could just eat them and increase the dosage. I prefer a sublingual method but it can be difficult to get right because the seeds must be ground to a powder and you must use more than a typical dose.


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: The_Aviator]
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I plan to do this, I don't know if I should do it now or later though?


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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probably good to give it some time to clear your system like any other psychedelic


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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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Smoke some weed, sometimes you get really bad ants in your legs from vasoconstriction

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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: xbloodwhipx]
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And pots a vasodialator

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Re: Failed - HBWR [Re: SurReality]
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SurReality said:
how much are HBRW seeds... vs. 1 spore syringe... someone help on the math of this equation that equals what is worth my time.


Once you've set up a mush grow, you can crank out batch after batch. At the peak of my shroom growing days I was producing each gram of shrooms for pennies.


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