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LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR)
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so I just grind my seeds soak em in cold water then filter and drink?

I still have some vodka too, would that work better?

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: stefan]
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yeah, you gotta let em site for a while though.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: Sunny]
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thanks

already had the crushed seeds in the water for a few houres and now I'm filtering

I wanted to try this way because even thinking about the taste of the seeds makes me almost nauseous :crazy:



this extraction will make me less sick/nauseous right? I dont want to puke..

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: stefan]
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unfortunately no... it will still be rough on your stomach

i remember reading a ways back about "long chain polymers" present in the seed husks that actually makes a soap of sorts when mixed with water (go ahead, shake it around and watch it bubble up)... this contributes to the nausea

alcohol extractions are better with really high proof liqour, like everclear, since i guess the "bad" stuff isn't soluable in alcohol (but is in water... so since regular ol' 80 proof vodka is still 60% water, doesn't do you much good...) though a cold-liqour extraction does kick in faster, alcohol enters the bloodstream quick :wink:

can't really do away with the nasties with either method, need to undertake a more formal polar/nonpolar alkaloid extraction... even still there's some nausea.  its part of the LSA experience :shrug: 

at the very least filtering out some of the gunk and just drinking the liquid does help... better than eating the stuff straight up but don't expect it to be nausea free unfortunately.

a few hours is good but the best results i've ever gotten was soaking the ground seed material in a glass jar in the fridge for a full week prior to filtering & consuming... though admittingly that could have been overkill and just coincidence that i had more potent seeds on hand...

edit - whoops, silly me just noticed you're talking woodroose... the extraction stuff i just mentioned was in reference to morning glory, though i'd assume similar.  the only way ive done HWBR was ground into powder, put into gelcaps, and down the hatch.  it does take a gut of steel :smile:


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Edited by creamcorn (02/14/07 11:17 AM)

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: stefan]
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Make sure to use distilled water, otherwise the potency will be greatly reduced. Sorry I didn't say that before.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: Sunny]
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I read a way to takem without getting the nausea. Basically you crush the seeds up and put them in a shotglass, add about a 1-2 teaspoons of water, mix and let it sit for a while, then you keep it in your mouth for about 15-20 minutes kinda swishing it around and whatnot. The LSA will absorb through your moutha nd you wont get the nausea! :crazy2:

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: StreetFreak]
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StreetFreak said:
I read a way to takem without getting the nausea. Basically you crush the seeds up and put them in a shotglass, add about a 1-2 teaspoons of water, mix and let it sit for a while, then you keep it in your mouth for about 15-20 minutes kinda swishing it around and whatnot. The LSA will absorb through your moutha nd you wont get the nausea! :crazy2:


I'd be interested to know if that worked.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: chemiKalz]
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chemiKalz said:I'd be interested to know if that worked.


The guys report on erowid said that he has done in several times and it always works, he also added that he takes half of his regular dosage if he were to eat them and adds it to it, like if you planned on eating 6, he would use this method with 9. I don't see any reason why LSA couldn't be absorbed through the skin just like acid. I have some seeds coming in the mail so I'll post if it works for sure or not.

Edited by StreetFreak (02/14/07 11:52 AM)

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: StreetFreak]
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creamcorn's posting about polar/nonpolar extractions, including alcohol, is unverified and unsupported by tests. i havent tried doing it with dramamine yet, but ill try the shotglass without swallowing + dramamine earlier and tell you how it goes.

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
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well i got some seeds coming.
ill try any method someone wishes me to try out.

think im gonna try travel sickness pills and fast before hand.

then ill try holding it in my mouth.
will post reports in the next few weeks.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: blacksun]
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Do you HAVE to mix with water? I think it'd be easier to just grind the seeds then put stick the grounds under your bottom lip and in your cheeks. Would that work too? That'd be much easier than holding a mouth full of liquid for freaking 20 minutes.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: ozzyozzyozzy]
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ozzyozzyozzy said:
creamcorn's posting about polar/nonpolar extractions, including alcohol, is unverified and unsupported by tests. i havent tried doing it with dramamine yet, but ill try the shotglass without swallowing + dramamine earlier and tell you how it goes.


what exactly is unverified and unsupported about it?  are you telling me the times i've done it and tripped quite well off the end result didn't really happen? :smile:  i also pointed out no matter how i've gone about it its always carried a level of nausea.  comes with the territory, and i accept it as part of the exeperience.  if anything it points to the fact that LSA itself causes some nausea (and i won't deny it might even be in part psychosomatic) and its not necessarily all the seed material's fault.


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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: creamcorn]
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i'm sorry but spouting polar/nonpolar and long-chain polymers isn't going to help anything when all you have to base it off is anecdotal evidence. your anecdotal evidence suggests one thing, other people's anecdotal evidence suggests the contrary. so all you were doing is using scientific terms as a substitute for actual scientific findings that support what you were saying. thus the warning -- it may sound legit, but the only thing backing it up is anecdotal evidence.

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Re: LSA cold water extraction? (HBWR) [Re: stefan]
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The best way I've found to take hwbr or morning glory seeds with virtually no nausea (aside from the nausea induced by lsa) is to soak powdered seeds in water with a little lime/citrus juice for several days, then filter out the seed pulp and take the liquid sublingually. You just hold the mixture in your mouth for 15-30 mins(you may even leave the seed pulp in there if you think you wont gag) and you still absorb almost all the lsa. Usually i need a slightly higer dosage, around 10 hbwr seeds, but I'm able to enjoy a heavy trip without barfing up a lung. It's the same principle as sucking on an lsd blotter for 15 minutes.


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