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OfflineTheMoD
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HBWD cold water extraction
    #3439069 - 12/02/04 06:07 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Can someone clear up how a cold water extraction of HBWD should be done so i get minimal nausea?

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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: TheMoD]
    #3439098 - 12/02/04 06:13 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well first, I assume you mean HBWR, as I cannot imagine what HBWD would be...lol, but I would say grind up however many seeds you intend to use, then put them in very cold water, and let soak in a cold, dark place for a day or two, then strain out the pulp, and enjoy. However this is no guarantee against nausea


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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: TheMoD]
    #3439123 - 12/02/04 06:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

you can use a very sharp razor or exacto to take the seed coats off they have some funky substance on them ,which i belive is the biggest part of of the nausea


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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: dblaney]
    #3439128 - 12/02/04 06:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Hmmm, i am a first time tripper, so i dont want the mixture to be too strong. Also, i worry about this talk of cyanide glycocides, are these ever fatal?

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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: CaptainH13]
    #3439235 - 12/02/04 06:41 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I have heard that it is best to remove the outer shell of the seed compleatly, I ahve yet to try this, but I would use apliers or something, those things are pretty hard.


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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: gdman]
    #3439271 - 12/02/04 06:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

dont use water man just use rubbing alcohol or isopropanol to extract it ,,, it works good .... or u can go all out and use naptha aswell ...

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>Yup. In a nutshell, you mix the HWBR powder in a nonpolar solvent, keep the
>resultant gunk(I) and throw away the solution. Then dissolve the gunk(I)
>into a polar solvent, throw away the new gunk(II) and evaporate the solution.
>The final gunk (III) that comes out of the solution has LSA in it.
>
> gunk(I) = gunk(II) + gunk(III)
> gunk(III) is the good stuff
> gunk(II) is not
> gunk(I+III) are therefore kept
>
>nonpolar solvent = petroleum ether
>polar solvent = alcohol (methanol is better, but is a smidgin poisinous
> so you've got to be damn sure its all evaporated).
>
>I don't have time to give a more detailed explanation than that right
>now.

For the layman: nonpolar solvent also = Zippo lighter fluid.

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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: benrules92]
    #3439275 - 12/02/04 06:48 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

thats was a cut and paste from erowid ... cause i dont wana get it shit
http://www.erowid.org/plants/morning_glory/morning_glory_extraction2.shtml

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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: benrules92]
    #3439294 - 12/02/04 06:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i dont have time for soaking the seeds in alcohol or petroleum for 2 days...

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Re: HBWD cold water extraction [Re: TheMoD]
    #3439510 - 12/02/04 07:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Well pretty much any extraction is going to take time to seperate the stuff. I haven't heard of a cold water extraction maybe Im only thinking of MGs I would go with the nonpolar to polar extraction.


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