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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: newgui]
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I'm pretty sure war is bankrupting the country :shrug:



Unfortunately... it's somewhat the opposite.  We go to war because our economy is so heavily entrenched in the military industrial complex.  WW2 got us out of the depression.


but yeah definitely, there be some conservative-ass people out there.  I don't understand people who don't believe in any kind of social programs at all.


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I'm looking at it from a more kantian pov in which i'm working of the categorical imperative and I think, not sure here, that NWlight is coming from a similar pov.


Yes.

"Act only according to that maxim whereby you can, at the same time, will that it should become a universal law." -Kant

If everybody did what the wannabe bums did, nobody would be able to be a wannabe bum because nobody would be working to support the wannabe bums.


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: SlashOZ]
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SlashOZ said:
newgui said:
It may be slight, but you guys certainly aren't acting like it :lol:


its not really a big deal because this discussion is not much more than a philosophical impasse.

your philosophy doesn't judge others based on the maxim of their actions. I'm looking at it from a more kantian pov in which i'm working of the categorical imperative and I think, not sure here, that NWlight is coming from a similar pov.



That sounds about right. I suppose it's very humanistic to me. All in all, at the end of the day, rich or poor, we're all apart of the same species. Anything material such as money or possesions in the end means nothing. Who are we as people if we let money come before humanity?

Just my way of thinking.


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: NWlight]
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Work for your own food, out of your own accord, not work as a slave for a master who in return gives you a meager amount of currency
so that you have to continue working for them to feed yourself and family. Those who submit to the system are nothing but peons, cattle,
worthless resources to be used until death and discarded. Is that what you feel you are worth?
I will not submit to your system, I will "work" to survive, but under no other man's rule.

Some of you need to use your brains a little more. Your ignorance and misplaced loyalty to is dis-heartening.

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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i saw someone call it communism or something. actually during the soviet regime if you didn't have a job you were classified as a social vermin and imprisoned.


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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Crypt Keeper said:
Work for your own food, out of your own accord, not work as a slave for a master who in return gives you a meager amount of currency
so that you have to continue working for them to feed yourself and family. Those who submit to the system are nothing but peons, cattle,
worthless resources to be used until death and discarded. Is that what you feel you are worth?
I will not submit to your system, I will "work" to survive, but under no other man's rule.

Some of you need to use your brains a little more. Your ignorance and misplaced loyalty to is dis-heartening.



Do you not use public roads? If your house was burning down wouldn't you want a fire truck to come? Do you have your money stored in a bank? Do you like being able to call 911 and have help show up? 

Did yiu make your own clothes? Do you use public water/electricity?  Do you buy gas for you car secured from brown people by the military?

I bet you don't have a cell phone or internet access either.

I think you just don't realize how much of the system's bitch you really are.  How interconnected everything is.


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: NWlight]
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Also, I would also like to add. Those of us who DO wish to opt out of your system along with the "benefits" of your system have a hard time because of your leaders
NWlight said:
Crypt Keeper said:
Work for your own food, out of your own accord, not work as a slave for a master who in return gives you a meager amount of currency
so that you have to continue working for them to feed yourself and family. Those who submit to the system are nothing but peons, cattle,
worthless resources to be used until death and discarded. Is that what you feel you are worth?
I will not submit to your system, I will "work" to survive, but under no other man's rule.

Some of you need to use your brains a little more. Your ignorance and misplaced loyalty to is dis-heartening.



Do you not use public roads?
Only when necessary.

If your house was burning down wouldn't you want a fire truck to come?
No, I would do my best to put it out myself.

Do you have your money stored in a bank?
No.

Do you like being able to call 911 and have help show up?
No, I don't need a false security blanket to keep me safe. I deal with my own problems, my own way.

Did you make your own clothes?
No, but that can be done easily.

Do you use public water/electricity?
No.

Do you buy gas for you car secured from brown people by the military?
Again, only when necessary. It is the leaders you follow which make it so.

I bet you don't have a cell phone or internet access either.
I obviously have internet access.

I think you just don't realize how much of the system's bitch you really are.  How interconnected everything is.


I don't think YOU realize how much of a bitch to the system YOU are. Then post on a forum like an attention whore "AMG I HANGED OUT WITH HOMELESS GAI 4 LIEK A HOLE DAY ALMIOST."
Looking for brownie points? I once scammed a bunch of rich kids high on MDMA outside of a dubstep show to give all of their money to a amputee homeless guy I met 5 minutes prior.
The week before he had heart surgery. He needed the currency more than those little fucks did. I also give when I can so people can go get fucked up on drugs, gives them a
sliver of "ease", if you actually work with the homeless you will know how rough it truly is to live in an urban slum.

People like me who DO want to opt out and be self-sufficient cannot because your system and way of thinking makes it impossible.
There is no unclaimed land free of law or rule that isn't an active warzone where we can set up and live as we wish.

So yes, after partaking in your thread, I am going to make it a goal. As long as I am forced within your shitty system, you can bet I will fuck it over as much as possible.
When people like you bitch and complain, I will spit in your eyes, grinning, mouthing the words: "fuck-you".

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper] * 1
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Crypt Keeper said:
Work for your own food, out of your own accord, not work as a slave for a master who in return gives you a meager amount of currency
so that you have to continue working for them to feed yourself and family. Those who submit to the system are nothing but peons, cattle,
worthless resources to be used until death and discarded. Is that what you feel you are worth?
I will not submit to your system, I will "work" to survive, but under no other man's rule.

Some of you need to use your brains a little more. Your ignorance and misplaced loyalty to is dis-heartening.


Someone reads too much Ayn Rand. :rolleyes:

Fuck off with that stuff, will ya?


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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I agree with NWlight...THEY HAVE US BY THE BALLS BRA

The only way to fight back is to build farms. Live off your own land.

america itself is a FRANCHISE. We do not even own ourselves. Ever wonder why we have a president and not a king and queen?

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
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i live in an area where there's tons of traveling kids and homeless people. i chill with them all the time when i get fucked up downtown :toast:


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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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Man the thing is, I'm not in denial about being the systems bitch, you are.  I enjoy the things society gives me that I listed above. Being able to call 911, having grocery stores, a cell phone, public transportation, the education system, etc.

What was all that nonsense about fucking up the system and spitting in my eye :lol:

I'm glad that you don't have and probably never will have any amount of decision making power over other people


"People like me who DO want to opt out and be self-sufficient cannot because your system and way of thinking makes it impossible.
There is no unclaimed land free of law or rule that isn't an active warzone where we can set up and live as we wish. "

Bullshit, find a national forest and travel deep inside, nobody will ever find or bother you.

Truth is its not impossible, you just don't really want to do it because you know how bad it would suck balls.


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Edited by NWlight (05/22/12 12:17 PM)

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: NWlight]
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I smoked a bowl of herb with a crack head after we played a round of disc golf :shrug:

does that count

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: NWlight]
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I plan on trying, believe me. Don't be so quick to assume brah, gets me all hoppy and angry.
And seriously, the way things are now is the illusion of freedom.
They own you all, and it will continue to be that way until you guys say fuck it and take back your rights.

I'm still going to take advantage of your system when I can though now just to piss off people like you :lolsy:



P.S. wtf is Ayn Rand?

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Re: I just hung out with a homeless man for 12+ hours [Re: Crypt Keeper]
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Crypt Keeper said:
P.S. wtf is Ayn Rand?


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