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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


I haven't experienced any "heart discomfort." I don't personally know anyone that has on an nbome. I'm not saying you wouldn't experience it, but I haven't.

And for your second concern, you could dilute the powder into a solution easily for accurate dosing.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: The_Aviator]
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Yeah I have no desire whatsoever to try this chem.  I know what works for me, as well as what I look for in a psychedelic experience, so I have no need or desire to take anything else....and will not take anything else.  Shit, I haven't even taken the ones that work for me in a couple of years. :shrug:

When I was younger I'd have been all over this like flies on shit though.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


The heart thing I can def relate to.

When dosing you will have to go big scale. 300-400 yg seems to be an appropriate dose so you'll need to lay it on blotter sheets while wearing a suit, mask and gloves. Saw a vid on the webz recently about an undercover cop who was working undercover as a biker. He said he had been shaving with a dry blade in a parking lot and when he was taken to an LSD lab later on he got a super OD just by the dust of it on his irritated skin. This guy almost died because he was having cramps ans seizures.

If you'd get it you should calculate how much single doses you could produce out of it and dilute it so that one droplet of fluid contains enough substance for one trip => 300-400 (erowid: 200-500yg)
Best thing would be to use a syringe to keep eye on how much you dose, so to say 0.1 cc water (0.1g H2O) would be 300 yg (0.0003yg) of substance.

Say you have 0.9g of substance (fortunate value) would mean 3000 single doses and should be diluted in 300cc H2O (But I don't know if it's so solible) So then you'd need a scale that goes two decima behind the point (which you'll be clearly able to afford at that point) and it would not make a big difference for the individual doses anymore (10% out of 300yg is how much? 30yg?).

This shit is not quite the usual work average joe is supposed to do.

Edited by sof4r0ckeRs1984 (03/05/12 10:11 PM)

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
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Doesn't seem like it. I mean the margin of error is miniscule. It actually shocks me that there hasn't been more hospital trips or even deaths considering the popularity the Nbomes are getting now. I mean I could just picture a bunch of 18-19 year olds ordering this shit so then can "get fucked up brah" and just end up snorting it because they don't know any other way.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: thoughts]
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iwasaClown said:
Are there any vendors in the states? They all seem to be in China.
I ain't no damn commie lover.

The stuff is pretty cool though, I really enjoyed it.:thumbup:


There's a very reputable vendor selling grams for 100$. Keep looking :smile:

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
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sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


When dosing you will have to go big scale. 300-400 yg seems to be an appropriate dose so you'll need to lay it on blotter sheets while wearing a suit, mask and gloves. Saw a vid on the webz recently about an undercover cop who was working undercover as a biker. He said he had been shaving with a dry blade in a parking lot and when he was taken to an LSD lab later on he got a super OD just by the dust of it on his irritated skin. This guy almost died because he was having cramps ans seizures.



Have you laid this stuff before? I can assure you that you don't need a suit, mask, and gloves. I have squirted it on my skin before and nothing happened as expected. It isn't exactly like LSD. If you take it orally (non-complexed) it won't even be active. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be careful but it isn't nearly as "active" as LSD.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
Quote:
Sheekle said:yeah the heart discomfert shit is fucking retarded


Do you mean it's retarded in the sense that it's a bunk rumor or retarded that it's such a bad side effect?


i dunno its a real side effect its not THAT bad ime but its still retarded that it has it as an effect, i felt kinda tweaked and pretty sweaty on the comedown

with lsd i get sweaty but i feel very relaxed on the come-dnw

although the next morning after 25i i felt very relaxed and shit so idk


25i was still lifechanging for me



and yea i've seen reports on the internet of people takin 15 tabs of this shit and monitered their heart rate and blood pressure and were fine others accidentally takin way too much some guy said he and his friends injected 50mg and they were all fine so idk i think its fairly safe but at the same time it still has some bad effects i think it depends on person to person idkikdikd i saw some report where some kid had to go to the hospital after just 500ug cuz his potassium levels dropped or something like that like he was allergic to it or something but


be careful its a research chemical ya feel dawg


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: The_Aviator]
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The_Aviator said:
Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


I haven't experienced any "heart discomfort." I don't personally know anyone that has on an nbome. I'm not saying you wouldn't experience it, but I haven't.

And for your second concern, you could dilute the powder into a solution easily for accurate dosing.


NEVER assume that a vendor send you exactly the weight you paid for. It's quite common to get more (never got less luckily). There's some cheap mg scales which will work well enough.
For example you could measure 50mg, dilute it in 50mg of liquid such as ethanol and you'll have a solution of 1mg per ml. Unless you want to lay sheets of blotters, I believe this is the easiest solution.

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: The_Aviator]
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So I'm getting some non complexted tabs. I just hold in my mouth on my gums for 20 minutes?


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Then I drive away in my solar powered piece of shit car, cool stuff man.

And then I go kill a bitch because the flaming orb in the sky told me to do so, and I don't know, oppress a few minorities here and there in the name of nuclear fusion?

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: fee]
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fee said:
So I'm getting some non complexted tabs. I just hold in my mouth on my gums for 20 minutes?


and dont swallow ur spit upper gums between gum and lip


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: fee]
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Yeah. 20 to 30 minutes without swallowing. Is it HCL or freebase? If it's freebase I'd recommend complexing it.

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: The_Aviator]
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The_Aviator said:
sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


When dosing you will have to go big scale. 300-400 yg seems to be an appropriate dose so you'll need to lay it on blotter sheets while wearing a suit, mask and gloves. Saw a vid on the webz recently about an undercover cop who was working undercover as a biker. He said he had been shaving with a dry blade in a parking lot and when he was taken to an LSD lab later on he got a super OD just by the dust of it on his irritated skin. This guy almost died because he was having cramps ans seizures.



Have you laid this stuff before? I can assure you that you don't need a suit, mask, and gloves. I have squirted it on my skin before and nothing happened as expected. It isn't exactly like LSD. If you take it orally (non-complexed) it won't even be active. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be careful but it isn't nearly as "active" as LSD.


Well no I haven't... I studied chemistry for three semesters back in the days so I'm like better safe than sorry :smile:
What does "non-complexed" mean in that context?

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: sof4r0ckeRs1984]
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sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
The_Aviator said:
sof4r0ckeRs1984 said:
Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


When dosing you will have to go big scale. 300-400 yg seems to be an appropriate dose so you'll need to lay it on blotter sheets while wearing a suit, mask and gloves. Saw a vid on the webz recently about an undercover cop who was working undercover as a biker. He said he had been shaving with a dry blade in a parking lot and when he was taken to an LSD lab later on he got a super OD just by the dust of it on his irritated skin. This guy almost died because he was having cramps ans seizures.



Have you laid this stuff before? I can assure you that you don't need a suit, mask, and gloves. I have squirted it on my skin before and nothing happened as expected. It isn't exactly like LSD. If you take it orally (non-complexed) it won't even be active. I'm not saying anyone shouldn't be careful but it isn't nearly as "active" as LSD.


Well no I haven't... I studied chemistry for three semesters back in the days so I'm like better safe than sorry :smile:
What does "non-complexed" mean in that context?


Better safe than sorry is always a good policy, I'm just letting people know they don't have to be too worried. I meant non-complexed as in not undergoing complexation with hpbcd. It increases the bioavailability, particularly for the freebase. I like that the chem is not active orally. It makes it a bit easier to differentiate it from LSD.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Nifflerz]
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Niffla said:
I really want to give this shit a go but I'm worried about two things specifically:

1. The heart "discomfort" that some have complained about. Anything giving my heart freaking "discomfort" wigs me the fuck out.

2. Dosing it. Yeah I'm sure it doesn't take a rocket scientist to properly dose it but I've never done it before, and I worry about accidentally taking too much. One trip report I read said the dude snorted an amount that was nearly invisible to the naked eye, and he still ended up taking too much. And I don't have a microgram scale. And I know snorting is recommended against, and I wouldn't do it. Just sayin' though.


Aspirin for your heart and volumetric dilution. No one uses microgram scales :lol:


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: mellowparty]
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Oh. Lol. I saw somebody say it another thread so I bought in.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Nifflerz]
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There are microgram scales but it is by far the easiest way to say dissolve 20mg in 1ml ethanol (just an example) and dose accordingly.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: mellowparty]
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mellowparty said:
There are microgram scales but it is by far the easiest way to say dissolve 20mg in 1ml ethanol (just an example) and dose accordingly.


But then you're trusting that a vendor gave you exactly 20mg. What happens if he gave you 35mg? (at least haft of what I bought from vendors were much more than what I paid for IME)

Before doing volumetric measurement (I agree it's the easiest way to dose correctly), one must be certain of the weight he has!

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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: damnnation]
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damnnation said:
Before doing volumetric measurement (I agree it's the easiest way to dose correctly), one must be certain of the weight he has!


20mg can be easily weighed with decent mg scales.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: Jessica Swift] * 1
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Jessica Swift said:
damnnation said:
Before doing volumetric measurement (I agree it's the easiest way to dose correctly), one must be certain of the weight he has!


20mg can be easily weighed with decent mg scales.


That was my point. You don't need a microgram scale but still need a milligram one.


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Re: I predict NBOMe overwhelm the LSD market this summer [Re: mellowparty]
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My bad, I read "no need to use a milligram scale"

Carry on... :grin:

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