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LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it?
    #4523365 - 08/11/05 08:10 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

1st I'd like to say I know nothing about making LSD. I'm just confused about the below...

I'm surprised that out of the whole drug culture someone hasn't figured out a way to make it easier or...some how sell the machinery to make it. Such as we have our shroom sites w/ basically everything you need to grow shrooms, couldn't their be a site that sold the materials for lsd. If the precoursers are illegal, then sell the elements to making the precourses?

Probably sites with the materials to make lsd, or most of it exsist but are kept quite as they and the buyers don't want them publicly known? I just can't imagine that lsd is so impossible to make that the extreme amounts of money that can be made with it has provided an empty market for it's precersours. As a biz owner I know that where there is need for product, someone will be there ready to make a fat dime off of it.

Can someone correct me. Or tell me what I'm missing.

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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser] * 1
    #4523374 - 08/11/05 08:12 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it's actually reallly easy; you just need a solid recipe  :yesnod:


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: Boom]
    #4523381 - 08/11/05 08:16 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

easy?
yeh you try to get the precursors
and tell us how easy it is
if it was so easy then acid would be plentiful
unfortunatly it's not that easy.
sorry dude, but if you are really interested, read up on the shroomery, erowid and the hive.
you can find out how to do it, but i don't think its very realistic for most people.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: muse_sick]
    #4523386 - 08/11/05 08:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm sorry, I thought my sarcasm came through (damn emotionless internet) :shrug:


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: muse_sick]
    #4523389 - 08/11/05 08:18 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

its quite dangerous too i hear. one mistake and BOOM


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: Boom]
    #4523390 - 08/11/05 08:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

it's okay,
i always take everything i read in the pub
at face value
and never look for sarcasm.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: Boom]
    #4523391 - 08/11/05 08:19 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I wound't like to make it, money isn't a problem, it's just that what I wrote above was confusing me.

I can google shrooms and find 50+ sites to sell me all I need, I can find RC supplies, shaman shops, RX pills and other things but lsd seems to be amiss.

Can I get an answer other than, "it's hard.", a certain reason why someone couldn't do this? I'm sorry I've been drinking a little.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523396 - 08/11/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

it takes a lot of knowledge of chemistry. the ingredients are tough to get, dangerous. it's just a very complex chemical i guess.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523399 - 08/11/05 08:22 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

You can't find it because you don't know where to look. It doesn't always travel the same channels as your weed or other drugs do. As for making it good luck I really don't think so.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523402 - 08/11/05 08:23 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

here ya go

http://leda.lycaeum.org/?ID=8774

give it a shot, and hit me up if you dont blow yourself up


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523410 - 08/11/05 08:24 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I'm going to read:

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/psychedelics/lablsd.html

I want to see for myself why everyone tells me it's impossible to make and you need to have a doc in chemistry and blah blah. There are plenty of intelegent people in the psycedellic community. I can't believe that it's this impossible thing to get/make.

Maybe it is though.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523415 - 08/11/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

lsd is made in a complicated chemical procedure
and the it can only be made from certain compounds
and those compounds are tightly controlled
chemists purchase them from certain countries
and import them
the procedure itself is also quite complicated
if you are really interested in this
i can send you a .zip of the rhodium archive.
but i suggest you use the search function
and you can learn more about the things that stand in the way.
start with this thread
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post1287892
and then look around
if you want the zip, feel free to pm me
but this isn't something easy to do
or something most people have the means to do
the govt. has been trying to prevent this kind of thing for some 40 odd years now, and they know what kind of set up it takes.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523416 - 08/11/05 08:26 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

The precursors are reallly hard to get, and are highly watched.  :shrug:


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523435 - 08/11/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

i know you can find this information online
LSD synthesis, Claviceps cultivation etc are one of the most talked about drug manufacturing methods on the net.
Have a good long search around!


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523438 - 08/11/05 08:32 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

And creating the precursors? Thank you muse_sick you're very knoweldgable(drunk spelling lol).

I read through the above guide I posted a link for. It seems that with carefull attention taken and time spent someone with just average intellect could figure out how to do this.

Let me write up a bullshit guide of how I think this could be done, and maybe you could tell me what you think. I wouldn't actually do this as I value my freedom to much, but many are I'm sure are willing to take the risk.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523456 - 08/11/05 08:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

the thing is that ergot
(which is basically the starting point for the synthesis)
is an extremely hazardous material
and can cause gangrene
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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523463 - 08/11/05 08:36 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

working with ergot alkaloids is hard and dangerous.. and you cant just make it anywhere.. you need like an actual lab setup..

stick to growin shrooms


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: Infrared]
    #4523479 - 08/11/05 08:40 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

I think it would be so grand to meet one of these fabulous makers of LSD, they're so mysterious, they won't let ANYBODY into their laboratory! I always wonder: Hmm, Who made this great acid for me?

The LSD manufacturers should have a contest where if you get the Golden Blotter on a sheet you get to go tour their secretive labs and see all the wild (and possibly scary) things that go on there.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523481 - 08/11/05 08:41 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

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And creating the precursors? Thank you muse_sick you're very knowledgeable(drunk spelling lol).

I read through the above guide I posted a link for. It seems that with careful attention taken and time spent someone with just average intellect could figure out how to do this.

Let me write up a bullshit guide of how I think this could be done, and maybe you could tell me what you think. I wouldn't actually do this as I value my freedom to much, but many are I'm sure are willing to take the risk.




This guy is too funny. haha lol. I especially like the part where he says drunk spelling lol. Dude if it was an average person of average intellect could make the shit you would be able to find it without having to search so hard. Not to mention that ergot or anything that you would start out with is so closely watched you need a hook up that's harder to find then LSD itself. Making Ergot yourself is very impractical. Your better off trying to look harder to find some doses then trying to synth it on your own if all you want to do is get some LSD.


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Re: LSD, why is it so hard to get, the methods of creating it? [Re: theuser]
    #4523533 - 08/11/05 08:55 PM (11 years, 3 months ago)

Thanks muse_sick, I didn't know it was so dangerous. The set up sounds pretty damn expensive, but do-able.


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