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Kissing at the altar
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Is this kiss supposed to be the first kiss the couple has?

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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The fact that the priest says "You may now kiss the bride" does seem to imply that.

I think a fair amount of marriages used to be between people who had only cursory knowledge of each other beforehand.


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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: sonamdrukpa]
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You think that a relationship with no kissing or sex before hand just spending time with each other would prove to be a more efficent marriage?

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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Sunday was meant for sex, when you spend the sabbath in the presence of your female as you work during the work that may be how it was meant to be. Subliminal ofc.. your mate is your God, has complete control of one of your senses (emotion) Love is dangerous.

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza] * 1
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giza said:
Is this kiss supposed to be the first kiss the couple has?




Actually the last.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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Nah, it's not really supposed to be their first kiss. The tradition comes from Roman times when a kiss symbolized the sealing of a deal. Men used to do it. It was seen as a non-romantic, and formal.


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Current favorite candy: Peanut Butter Kisses

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: r72rock]
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That must be the way then. Egyptians married in their family due to their family having superior genetics compared to the common human. Why soil your family with a lesser being?

Edited by giza (11/23/11 10:15 AM)

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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The Nazi's thought like that too. :thumbup:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: Icelander]
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icelander is serving you bacon and eggs in every thread i read of yours Giza

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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giza said:
That must be the way then. Egyptians married in their family due to their family having superior genetics compared to the common human. Why soil your family with a lesser being?



are you kidding?


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Kupo said:
let's fuel the robots with psilocybin.

cez said:
everyone should smoke dmt for religion.

dustinthewind13 said:
euthanasia and prostitution should be legal and located in the same building.

White Beard said:
if you see the buddha on the road, rape him, then kill him. then rape him again.

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: blingbling]
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No but I believe that's what their mindset was

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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giza said:
Is this kiss supposed to be the first kiss the couple has?




I kissed my Lady on 11/11/11 at exactly 11:11:11 AM EST, and that kiss symbolized our marriage. It was a legal formality, since we'd been together for 15 years, but I believe that nothing is without cosmic meaning, and I wanted to express that truth symbolically, Numerologically, Qabalistically, and Alchemically, all at the same time. The goal was for a Synchronicity to occur, and it did! A statue of Thoth stands on the dining room table as one of the symbols present (it's always kept there anyway). Meanwhile, outside, for the second time in 15 years, nine Ibises convened on the front lawn. The only other time I saw Ibises on my lawn was the very day that my Thoth (the Ibis-Headed One) statue arrived in the mail!!!  I believe that all other kisses in front of an altar are intended to be similarly symbolic, although most people do not arrange the kinds of archetypal symbols that might constellate a 'magickal' Synchronicity. Common-place Jewish-Christian motifs seem unlikely to do so.

Thoth is the archetype of the Logos. He is 'The Tongue of Ra,' which essentially means 'the Word of God' in Christian terms. Thoth was named Hermes by the Greeks, and Mercury by the Romans. As 'Messenger of the Gods,' Thoth-Hermes traverses the 3 Worlds (hence, 'Thrice Greatest Hermes'), as Jesus is to have done (Heaven, Earth, and 'the harrowing of Hell'). Obviously, an Ibis-Headed man, and a man with winged sandals and helmet are mythic figures. Not so obvious is the myth of a long-haired Jewish carpenter, but they all symbolize the Logos, the 'Word of God,' the 'Nous' or Divine-Mind that emanates from Pure Being.

"Therefore am I called Thrice Greatest Hermes, having all three parts of the wisdom of the Whole Universe. Herein have I completely explained the Operation of the Sun."  - Hermes Trismegistus, The Emerald Tablet  :sun:



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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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the ibis synchronicity/event is pretty amazing!

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza]
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giza said:
Sunday was meant for sex, when you spend the sabbath in the presence of your female as you work during the work that may be how it was meant to be. Subliminal ofc.. your mate is your God, has complete control of one of your senses (emotion) Love is dangerous.



You have very real issues. Your take on marriage is founded on the dysfunction of a dominance-submission dynamic.
In my first marriage, I married a woman who had  personality traits similar to  a nasty, demanding aunt, as it turned out. While being vigilant not to marry someone who was like my mother, in order to avoid Oedipal dynamics, I ran unwittingly into another set of powerful feminine influences from early childhood.

My current "mate" of 15 years and I are compatible intellectually, emotionally, and physically. We treat each others as equals.
You must not grok love at all if you say "Love is dangerous." There is no danger in love, there is danger in unrequited love, there is danger in an individual's inability to love because of a major personality disorder line Borderline PD, or Antisocial PD, or even Narcissistic PD. There is danger in misidentifying sexual desire or emotional infatuation with love. The latter is about one's projection of internal ideals onto someone who really doesn't embody those ideals. When the projection is withdrawn, and you see who you married and ask yourself, "what was I thinking?," it doesn't mean you 'fell out of love,' it means you never had a love relationship, just mutual infatuation, mutual projections.

Like a zipper, two people have to be able to connect up and down the chakra ladder of motives in order to remain wed together - physical, sexual, social, emotional, valuational, intellectual, and spiritual. Any significant difference in any of those motives and your zipper is gonna get stuck, either up or down, a significant part won't work. And besides embarrassment, a broken zipper is also useless and needs to be replaced. :lol:


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: FishOilTheKid]
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FishOilTheKid said:
the ibis synchronicity/event is pretty amazing!



Yes it was, and I was grateful!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Okay maybe I should have said "Love can be dangerous"

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Re: Kissing at the altar [Re: giza] * 1
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Love can be salvific, love can make one whole, but there is nothing about love that can be dangerous as far as I can tell. You simply don't have the same understanding of the word that I do, in fact, until you offer some description of love, I can only conclude that you really don't know what love is. :shrug:


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