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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: ButteredToast]
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ButteredToast said:
I knew him. My friends and I would give him cigarettes and extra food when we had some.
... most of the time he didn't even know what was going on.. he was probably so scared when he was being beaten..

That's really tough :sad:

Azure Essence said:
If all these assholes really gave such a fuck, why was he an untreated, schizophrenic homeless man getting himself into situations like this? These people are secretly glad the police took him off their hands, THATS the truely tragic part



What do you mean getting himself into situations like this? Situations where you get murdered by police because you're schizo and scared?

This guy wouldn't hurt a fly. He was trying to open car doors, he wasn't smashing open car windows. I gaurentee he was just looking for somewhere comfortable to sleep.



I just mean shit like this happening. I'm not implying in any way it's his fault, but if he were home with his family, he wouldnt be out trying to get into cars. I'm also not saying what they did was justified, but it happened. It was a shitty situation, and it happened, and it could have been prevented WAY easier than it could have been caused.

ButteredToast said:
Azure Essence said:
My parents took out two mortgages on the house to put my brother into rehab.

If you fucking care, you'll find a way



Have you ever had to deal with a schizophrenic individual? It's not as simple as it was to put your brother in rehab.



There are also millions of families across america that are dealing with mentally deranged, schizo family members. It isnt easy, but life isnt fucking easy. You dont just throw your fucking problems out onto the street when you dont feel like dealing with them anymore.

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
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love2shpongleIRL said:
What do you suggest we do? Pay for his existence and treatment? It sucks, but there is not much you can do for him.



Is this all people are worth to you? :frown: Expendable monetary figures and cash value signs over their heads?

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Dawks] * 4
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It is because of events like this that I can never get that upset when somebody kills a cop. I mean think about it. If you saw a bunch of dudes ganging up on a homeless guy, and you had a good amount of people ( such as the people in this video) wouldn't your run up and try to help the guy? I would, and I bet these people would too. But when the gang of dudes has uniforms and weapons it makes trying to save someone else incredibly dangerous.

Seriously, it cannot be said enough, FUCK THE POLICE


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Crystal G]
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Crystal G said:
Is this all people are worth to you? :frown: Expendable monetary figures and cash value signs over their heads?



No.  But to think that society can support everyone forever is silly and utopian.

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: halo]
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The focus of this thread should not be about how to care for schizos.

It's about police brutality and murder. I don't think his sanity has much to do with it.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: propensity]
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propensity said:
It's about police brutality and murder. I don't think his sanity has much to do with it.



Yeah.  we discussed that:  the police were incredibly wrong, should be in jail, and it sucks.

now we're discussing alterantive courses of action for future situations to be avoided.  k?

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: memes]
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meams said:
propensity said:
It's about police brutality and murder. I don't think his sanity has much to do with it.



Yeah.  we discussed that:  the police were incredibly wrong, should be in jail, and it sucks.

now we're discussing alterantive courses of action for future situations to be avoided.  k?




Kill them before they can kill you?

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Azure Essence]
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Azure Essence said:
There are also millions of families across america that are dealing with mentally deranged, schizo family members. It isnt easy, but life isnt fucking easy. You dont just throw your fucking problems out onto the street when you dont feel like dealing with them anymore.



Ah, I see where you're coming from now.

Just saying- A lot of the time schizophrenic people refuse treatment (can't blame 'em) and when given the choice of being medicated, or living on the streets, most of the time the schizophrenic individual will choose to be homeless. They don't like to be contained.

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: ButteredToast] * 2
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fuckin speechless on this one.

This really disturbed me.

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Crystal G]
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No not at all, but with this system you can't disregard the costs of things. It's unfortunate, but it's the way it is.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Shroomism]
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Shroomism said:
Prisoner#1 said:
Patlal said:
Holy fuck.

How much does a man have to resist to get so many bruises.



he'd have to be the one on top of 3 cops, cant really see shit in the video
but the picture is pretty telling. those cops need to be in prison



He wasn't on top of anyone. He tried to run, they tackled him to the ground...




I know, not like the nutty little white guy was going to keep 3 cops
pinned to the ground to warrant having the whole damen department gang up
on him, that's what the kid looks like, the whole department took a few
shots... that's why I stated the cops needed to be in prison, that's
pretty clear cut brutality

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: gzuf]
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Fuck the police. :nonono:


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: gzuf]
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Filthy. Fucking. Pigs. I can't rant any more on this subject than has already been said a million times.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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So.  If we were going to set up an oversight agency to monitor local police departments, how would we go about it?

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
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Im going to try and call and voice my opinion to the police department there
and will also attempt to get ahold of the mayor or however I can get a hold of.

Im getting really fucking sick of this shit. And I want them to know how I feel.

Saying fuck the police is not enough any longer.

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: memes]
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I believe we already have one of those, it's a citizens organization that follows cops around and monitors their activity. I think it's technically "illegal" though, the cops will try to stop you from tracking them. Go figure.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Cop watch, police have been getting mighty aggresive with them latley. I can post a doc of theirs if you are intersted.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: love2shpongleIRL]
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Here is their site. http://www.copwatch.org/


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Only those who will risk going too far can possibly find out how far one can go.
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Edited by love2shpongleIRL (08/03/11 04:51 PM)

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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I think we need to completely overhaul the police system in this country.

First of all, I think we need to do away with the police entirely. They police are an illegitimate, undemocratic organization forced upon us from above. If the sheriff's department can't keep up with crime, then it should hire more deputies.

I'm really surprised more people aren't outraged that we have police at all in this country. It's unconstitutional, and we pay to arm them to the teeth and for them to drive around in hummers and escalades tasing people who disagree with them. It's unfuckingbelievable.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Homeless Man Beaten to Death by Fullerton Police [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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I think we would be better off eliminating patrols and drug enforcment, then repurpose them into detective positions for crimes that have actual victims. Maybe have a response team for serious incidents that are well defined.


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Edited by love2shpongleIRL (08/03/11 04:53 PM)

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