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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: laserpig]
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my list of "synchronicity" is insane but i'll let you in on a glimpse. its creepy cuz its biblical. I was born 9/23/84 1:50 A.M. on the Autumn equinox. my brother, James, born 3/23/86 2:41 A.M. on the Vernal Equinox, 18 months 51 min after me. Now, keep in mind that I'm at least 50%Norwegian, my brother and i both born on the 23rd, almost exactly 18 months apart. 23:18 is a middle age ideogram for the division of the year at the equinoxes, called "Michael Mas" or "More Michael". We each have 23 chromosomes (I have 24...?) from our father, Michael! our mother was born 2/3/1962. not only on 2/3 but the digits even add up to 23 and the year alone adds to 18. i cant help but entertain the thought that there really might be something to the 23 thing. W is the 23rd letter of the alphabet. our last name starts with a U and we had a brother stillborn between us in 1985. 1984+1985+1986=69 when added up, which evens out at 23 each. google 23:18 ideogram and check out the symbols. i have pages of stuff like this and after that movie came out, people would think im going crazy (thank you god for normal parents).  i could have been maynord keenan james or something (your a freak but thanks for believing in me) TOOL is genius!  but we're "46 & 2 just ahead of you." "one infinite, the horror begins in autumn. this will test your (strength, courage, wisdom, spirit, and potency), 23 steps to total awareness" - Maynord James, "Viginti Tres" translated into english at the end of their album 10000 days. i'll be 10000 days old in 2012... and there's even more mind boggling coincidences like that. what do you think? i think i have an idea for a movie...

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: laserpig]
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laserpig said:
despite my best hopes, this thread has gone a long way towards convincing me that synchronicity is just chance plus an overactive imagination :sad:



That's too bad, because for 30 years, I have considered Synchronicities to be my version of the "manna from heaven." They have been such Powerful punctuations of connectivity, meaning, symmetry, and other descriptives that they constitute major nodal points in a huge net of space-time that is my life. I have many amazing incidents where inner and outer reality intersect. They result in ecstatic moments and an elevated perspective that rises above whatever sickness that intentionally prevents such high states of mind in others. Those who reject meaningful coincidences, the "non-causal connective principle" of Synchronicity, suffer from a deficit in the Intuitive function. They also tend to be among the most Sensate individuals I have ever met, whose lack of Intuition - the doorway to Transcendental Vision-Logic - is sadly barred. Those poor individuals cannot, constitutionally 'connect-the-dots,' and they critically, and often hostilely point an accusatory finger at those who can, saying that they are constructing a psychotic reality, because they cannot see what others do. Those people are cynical, angry, depressive and apparently envious of others who can perceive the causally empirical reality AS WELL AS a higher reality. The purely empirical mind can function well enough in the world of physical cause-effect, but they are entirely hindered by the mind-body dialectic, relegating all mental and higher mental (spiritual) phenomena to dimensions much lower than the ones to which they rightfully belong. See Dr. Victor Frankl's work on 'Dimensional Ontology,' and his simple yet profound illustrations (a limited person sees the 2-dimensional shadows of a cylinder as a circle and a rectangle, but cannot integrate the lower 2-dimensional projections into a higher 3-dimensional shape, for example). Did you ever see the old Twilight Zone where the whole world is populated by ugly people, and the few 'mutant' beautiful people are kept in isolation as freaks?


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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righteous post :headbanger:


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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: g00ru]
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Thanks!


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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I have had too many moments in my life where things seemingly unrelated have come together in such massive and powerful moments of transformation and change not only in my personal life but in physical and mental states as well...

I have been a teacher for a few years now and have had the opportunity to come into contact with many different kinds of people from all different walks of life and nationalities. Becoming someone's teacher in kung fu is like becoming their father and I have found myself sort of adopted by several different families in the course of time. This has led me to somehow be telepathically linked to them in some ways in which I do not fully understand but have nonetheless come to accept.

My kung fu teacher always talked about filling the cup. Once the vessel has been filled the universe must respond. But not always in our time which can make IMO perceiving the moment of synchronicity  difficult to apprehend especially for someone who is either not paying attention, or has not been trained to be intuitively aware.


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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
      J. B. S. Haldane

The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: Forever White Belt]
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Thanks for the affirmation Sensei!
BTW, I appreciate the humility expressed in your name.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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MarkostheGnostic said:
They result in ecstatic moments and an elevated perspective that rises above whatever sickness that intentionally prevents such high states of mind in others. Those who reject meaningful coincidences, the "non-causal connective principle" of Synchronicity, suffer from a deficit in the Intuitive function. They also tend to be among the most Sensate individuals I have ever met, whose lack of Intuition - the doorway to Transcendental Vision-Logic - is sadly barred. Those poor individuals cannot, constitutionally 'connect-the-dots,' and they critically, and often hostilely point an accusatory finger at those who can, saying that they are constructing a psychotic reality, because they cannot see what others do. Those people are cynical, angry, depressive and apparently envious of others who can perceive the causally empirical reality AS WELL AS a higher reality. The purely empirical mind can function well enough in the world of physical cause-effect, but they are entirely hindered by the mind-body dialectic, relegating all mental and higher mental (spiritual) phenomena to dimensions much lower than the ones to which they rightfully belong.




This paragraph in context of this thread perfectly describes the difference between my blood brother and I. Thank you for posting this Markos because it puts some feelings I have been having into words that helps me understand what has been happening better. Since my mother died from a pulmonary embolism very young recently our family's relationships have deteriorated very rapidly.

It had gotten so bad between my brother and I that we no longer speak and I moved out of the state to leave him and my father to their misery. I have been trying to come to grips with the rest of my family's disbelief and skepticism in all things spiritual.

Many hours of long conversation with my brother revealed to me that him and apparently most if not all of the organized college education system has nothing but contempt for people who rely more on intuition than logic.

thank you Markos

btw I cannot take credit for the name my brother and teacher created. The name resonates with me deeply however and I feel it pays some respect to him by using it.


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The Universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose.
      J. B. S. Haldane

The quest of the absolute leads into the four-dimensional world.
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: Forever White Belt]
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scoop to loop routs
loop the scoop on fruits
proof a hoofs
an impute to dispute the sprooker
chuff chuff...

aloofly refuture


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Ronda Nina...

Edited by Crumpet (07/01/11 11:12 AM)

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: Crumpet]
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wow, that's...synchronous indeed :lol: good luck to you, inter-temporal wanderer, may you find an excellent spot to put down roots! :pipesmoke:


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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: g00ru] * 1
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A week or two ago, I was talking to my friend, I was explaining to her the concept of the subconscious mind and how it sometimes gives clues in the waking world such as weird coincidences. Then we got to talk about quantum mechanics.... anyways I ended up asking her if she had seen Donnie Darko, she said that she never saw it before and I gave her a quick scene so I told her about the scene where hes sleep walking and sees frank the rabbit. The engine falls through the roof and if he didn't sleep walk he would have died. I was the one who brought the movie up, she had no previous knowledge of the movie and 2 minutes later she turns the tv on flips down one channel and guess whats on, Donnie Darko... Whats even crazier is it was the exact scene I told her about.

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: Hijinks]
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Good stuff. :cool:

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Re: synchronicity vs coincidence [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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one day i saw a girl in knee high wheres walley socks and that same day lost a yellow costume in prusuite of a mystery novel t...


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Ronda Nina...

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