DrMambo said:

You'd think with all he's invested he'd have a halfway decent tube filler.

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trip forever said:

And ya it's bs with the FSC. To all those who think they're smart smoking American Spirits you realize that also has FSC?

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Viveka said:

trip forever said:

And ya it's bs with the FSC. To all those who think they're smart smoking American Spirits you realize that also has FSC?

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Here's what the makers of American Spirit say concerning their FSC compliance...


Dear Guy,

Thank you for your email and for your interest in our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes. Please find the information on our Natural American Spirit FSC cigarettes listed below. We do not have information on the production methods or ingredients used by other tobacco companies. If you have any additional questions please feel free to call us at 1-800-332-5595 and any of our Customer Care specialists will be happy to assist you personally. Our normal office hours are 6am to 8:30pm Mountain Time.

"Fire Standards Compliant," (FSC) is a phrase Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company uses to describe the Natural American Spirit cigarettes that have been tested and have satisfied the requirements of the states of New York, Vermont, California, Oregon, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Illinois, Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, Utah, Alaska, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Minnesota, Delaware, Iowa, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Texas. These tests, according to state authorities, measure the tendency of a cigarette to self-extinguish if left unattended. FSC regulations have been in place in several of these states since 2004, and we expect that all states will eventually adopt this law. All tobacco companies are required to abide by this law.

Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company does not add any chemicals to our tobacco to comply with State fire safety laws. We simply use a new type of flax-based cigarette paper which has built-in “speed bumps.” Two speed bumps are placed in horizontal bands along the length of the cigarette. The burn retardant bands are virtually non-porous. As a result, not enough oxygen can diffuse through the bands to the burning tobacco in order to support the smoldering process. As the lit end burns across these bands, the supply of oxygen is restricted and the cigarette is more likely to self-extinguish.

The material used to create the speed bumps is a natural starch, made from a water based alginate that is an extract of seaweed. This alginate is food use approved, biodegradable and applied to the paper in a water solution. Our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes contain the same amount of tobacco that Natural American Spirit cigarettes always have, and we use only the same premium quality 100% additive-free natural tobacco our customers have come to know and expect.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us, Guy. We hope this information has been helpful.


Best regards,

The People of Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company

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superhigh said:

DrMambo said:

You'd think with all he's invested he'd have a halfway decent tube filler.

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That one looks like it produces a pretty tight cigarette.

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fingerprince said:

Viveka said:

trip forever said:

And ya it's bs with the FSC. To all those who think they're smart smoking American Spirits you realize that also has FSC?

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Here's what the makers of American Spirit say concerning their FSC compliance...


Dear Guy,

Thank you for your email and for your interest in our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes. Please find the information on our Natural American Spirit FSC cigarettes listed below. We do not have information on the production methods or ingredients used by other tobacco companies. If you have any additional questions please feel free to call us at 1-800-332-5595 and any of our Customer Care specialists will be happy to assist you personally. Our normal office hours are 6am to 8:30pm Mountain Time.

"Fire Standards Compliant," (FSC) is a phrase Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company uses to describe the Natural American Spirit cigarettes that have been tested and have satisfied the requirements of the states of New York, Vermont, California, Oregon, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Illinois, Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, Utah, Alaska, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Minnesota, Delaware, Iowa, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Texas. These tests, according to state authorities, measure the tendency of a cigarette to self-extinguish if left unattended. FSC regulations have been in place in several of these states since 2004, and we expect that all states will eventually adopt this law. All tobacco companies are required to abide by this law.

Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company does not add any chemicals to our tobacco to comply with State fire safety laws. We simply use a new type of flax-based cigarette paper which has built-in “speed bumps.” Two speed bumps are placed in horizontal bands along the length of the cigarette. The burn retardant bands are virtually non-porous. As a result, not enough oxygen can diffuse through the bands to the burning tobacco in order to support the smoldering process. As the lit end burns across these bands, the supply of oxygen is restricted and the cigarette is more likely to self-extinguish.

The material used to create the speed bumps is a natural starch, made from a water based alginate that is an extract of seaweed. This alginate is food use approved, biodegradable and applied to the paper in a water solution. Our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes contain the same amount of tobacco that Natural American Spirit cigarettes always have, and we use only the same premium quality 100% additive-free natural tobacco our customers have come to know and expect.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us, Guy. We hope this information has been helpful.


Best regards,

The People of Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company

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Sounds like a bunch of jargon conjured to not damage reputation.
What does the asterisk mean?
That's just the kind of question I ask.


You should have quoted me. I'm the theorist.

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Viveka said:

fingerprince said:

Viveka said:

trip forever said:

And ya it's bs with the FSC. To all those who think they're smart smoking American Spirits you realize that also has FSC?

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Here's what the makers of American Spirit say concerning their FSC compliance...


Dear Guy,

Thank you for your email and for your interest in our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes. Please find the information on our Natural American Spirit FSC cigarettes listed below. We do not have information on the production methods or ingredients used by other tobacco companies. If you have any additional questions please feel free to call us at 1-800-332-5595 and any of our Customer Care specialists will be happy to assist you personally. Our normal office hours are 6am to 8:30pm Mountain Time.

"Fire Standards Compliant," (FSC) is a phrase Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company uses to describe the Natural American Spirit cigarettes that have been tested and have satisfied the requirements of the states of New York, Vermont, California, Oregon, New Hampshire, Maine, Massachusetts, Illinois, Kentucky, Montana, New Jersey, Connecticut, Maryland, Utah, Alaska, Rhode Island, Washington DC, Minnesota, Delaware, Iowa, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Texas. These tests, according to state authorities, measure the tendency of a cigarette to self-extinguish if left unattended. FSC regulations have been in place in several of these states since 2004, and we expect that all states will eventually adopt this law. All tobacco companies are required to abide by this law.

Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company does not add any chemicals to our tobacco to comply with State fire safety laws. We simply use a new type of flax-based cigarette paper which has built-in “speed bumps.” Two speed bumps are placed in horizontal bands along the length of the cigarette. The burn retardant bands are virtually non-porous. As a result, not enough oxygen can diffuse through the bands to the burning tobacco in order to support the smoldering process. As the lit end burns across these bands, the supply of oxygen is restricted and the cigarette is more likely to self-extinguish.

The material used to create the speed bumps is a natural starch, made from a water based alginate that is an extract of seaweed. This alginate is food use approved, biodegradable and applied to the paper in a water solution. Our Fire Standards Compliant (FSC) cigarettes contain the same amount of tobacco that Natural American Spirit cigarettes always have, and we use only the same premium quality 100% additive-free natural tobacco our customers have come to know and expect.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact us, Guy. We hope this information has been helpful.


Best regards,

The People of Santa Fe Natural Tobacco Company

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Sounds like a bunch of jargon conjured to not damage reputation.
What does the asterisk mean?
That's just the kind of question I ask.


You should have quoted me. I'm the theorist.

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What fucking asterisk?  And no, I replied to trip forever because he's the one who said, "To all those who think they're smart smoking American Spirits you realize that also has FSC?".  So now I'm wasting time responding to your two incorrect points.  Review your shit before you post.

And the correspondence from Santa Fe Co. clearly states that the FSC bands are made from algae.  Are you suggesting they're lying?

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fingerprince said:

Ok, here goes:

- The asterisk after SPEED BUMPS.

- I'm not suggesting anything other than FSC does no good for the general public, and is for someone's profit (though i am not heavily invested in this thought), BUT....

- In response to your last sentence, I would not be surprised if a tobacco company lied.

I am drunk but I am not stupid... quote me on that.

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They're called quotation marks.
notice how the first one is before the phrase 'speed bumps' ?
the second one generally comes at the end of the phrase.

If you can't distinguish between characters in a font: try increasing the text size, get a larger monitor, put down the booze, something other than making yourself look like a fool.

Kisper said:

They're called quotation marks.
notice how the first one is before the phrase 'speed bumps' ?

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