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MJ vs. Cigarettes
    #5954637 - 08/11/06 06:24 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, the lively debate rages on.

How many cigarettes does a normal size joint equal in inhaling bad stuff for you? Or is there even a comparison?

my gf is all worried she will get lung cancer from smoking too much weed (once a day for, say, 5 days a week).

I would love to put her mind at ease, so anyone that can help, would be appreciative.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5954640 - 08/11/06 06:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

this would help me too.. relentless gf's lol... someone please have a link


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Banez]
    #5954645 - 08/11/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i have no link but i remember hearing somewhere that a quarter ounce is like a pack or something? so depends how big a normal size joint is? hope this helped a little bit


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: rubixcubies]
    #5954647 - 08/11/06 06:28 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

no not at all. lol.. sorry im kinda drunk... but we have gf's we need actual proof


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Banez]
    #5954663 - 08/11/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

been smoking good pot for 10+ years, never smoke cigarettes.

endless 75% tobacco and 25% marijuana rolls at a festival. smoked them constantly. fucked the whole weekend. (molly and mushrooms and coke and heroin)


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5954664 - 08/11/06 06:33 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I heard that marijuana smoke has some property that reduces the harmful effects of the smoke, so I'd say her marijuana smoking is much less harmful than smoking the same amount of tobacco.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5954670 - 08/11/06 06:36 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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drtyfrnk said:
How many cigarettes does a normal size joint equal in inhaling bad stuff for you? Or is there even a comparison?


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scientificly speaking, I couldnt tell you but I can say from my experience I
believe that cigarettes have done much more damage to my lungs, cigarettes are
actualy addictive.

consider that in schools they'd tell you how one joint is like smoking 10
cigarettes, of course drug programs are notorious for lying but also think
about the fact that the average smoker has those 10 cigarettes while you've only
had one joint

I hope this post was confusing for you, I'd like a joint but all I have are cigarettes


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #5954676 - 08/11/06 06:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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drtyfrnk said:
How many cigarettes does a normal size joint equal in inhaling bad stuff for you? Or is there even a comparison?


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I hope this post was confusing for you, I'd like a joint but all I have are cigarettes




lol yeah.. a bunch of people have responded but havent been able to help the initial poster


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Banez]
    #5954685 - 08/11/06 06:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've heard that 5 cigarettes is equal to one joint, on both a commercial and a drug-website. Maybe not...

http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_info3.shtml

Tobacco is worse with the carbon mono/dioxide but there is more ammonia in the MJ. They seem about even to me.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Banez]
    #5954689 - 08/11/06 06:40 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I've just been looking stuff up online, checking around.

Looks like it's not been proven to be cancerous at all yet, but there has been studies that say it could be pre-cancerous. maybe.

:thumbup:

Anyone else?


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Nashbar]
    #5954692 - 08/11/06 06:41 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

the second part.....
a couple weeks after the festival, eat some mushrooms, smoke 3 cigarettes...

trippy shit, smoking and blowing smoke, a lighter, smoke :bongload:


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Nashbar]
    #5954698 - 08/11/06 06:43 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

speaking of which.. im going to go grab a marbolo menthol and feel the glass cut my lungs. brb


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5954703 - 08/11/06 06:44 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

If you do some searching here (or elsewhere) you will find links to articles that show the THC in marijuana actually slowing or stopping cancer cell growth. Search...


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Nashbar]
    #5954705 - 08/11/06 06:45 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

menthol, shit, I made that in my organic chem lab. no way I'd smoke methanol


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: droctogon187]
    #5954723 - 08/11/06 06:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

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If you do some searching here (or elsewhere) you will find links to articles that show the THC in marijuana actually slowing or stopping cancer cell growth. Search...




Thanks for the info.

Now, anyone else want to post some interesting links? I've done a bit of research on it, but it doesn't give me a mj vs. cigarettes comparison. Only that MJ has not been proven to cause cancer.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Nashbar]
    #5954743 - 08/11/06 06:56 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Well I think hands down a cigerette is much more harmful to your body in general than a single joint.

YES it is true that one joint contains much more TAR than one commercial tobacco cigerette, but there are many more harmful cancer-causing carcenogens in a cigerette than you could even dream of.

Also from first hand experience... I had smoked cigs for about 8 months straight, heavily, usually a full flavored marboloro, or however you spell it, after I did stop smoking (stupid of me to even start!), I coughed up some of the BLACKEST NASTIEST SHIT ever. I have quit smoking mj a few times and hacked up some stuff and every once in a while still do, but the shit i coughed up after cigerettes scared me.

It is no doubt that inhaling any form of smoke into our precious lungs is bad for you.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5954837 - 08/11/06 07:29 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

From what I gather, the reason tobacco is so cancerous is because the nicotine causes dying cells to stay around instead of regenerating, giving them the chance to mutate into cancer. This is probably just a theory.

I don't think anyone has ever gotten cancer from cannabis alone, but the tar and heat are still not good for your lungs.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5955016 - 08/11/06 09:03 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

I want to quit smoking tobacco, I wish I never started...quitting weed was much easier, but I was never a heavy pot smoker anyway.
I will smoke weed again sometime, but I am waiting until next month..well legal reasons of course.
But I think smoking cigarettes sucks, if you are gonna smoke something, you might as well get high while you do it..
Besides weed is good for medicine as well, it helps me out when I feel sick with an illness of any kind.
I will always love marijuana...gotta love the cannabis!!  :tongue2:  :bigweed:  :bongload:


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5955039 - 08/11/06 09:11 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Apples and oranges, nucka.

But overall I know that cannabis is a lot less detrimental to your health than manufactured tobacco products for sure.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: browndustin]
    #5955078 - 08/11/06 09:34 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: frostbitten]
    #5955083 - 08/11/06 09:38 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, I read your link before you posted it. But really, all it tells you is how cigs compare to MJ, with all the technical jargon and shit.

I'm looking for more along the lines of 1 j = ? cigarettes, yada yada.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5955110 - 08/11/06 09:50 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

The addiction of cigarettes I think is a factor in the "what's worse" question, albiet unimprotant with "1 J = ? Cigarettes".


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5955114 - 08/11/06 09:51 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Just smoke enough weed to get you high, you will be cool...if you smoke more after you are already high...you will just be wasting your weed.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Skunk420]
    #5955145 - 08/11/06 10:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

i smoked cigarettes for 3 years maybe more.
smoked blunts for about 8 years.
for alomost 2 years ive only been smoking Js or hit a bong and my endurence is way higher i can run longer distances and faster.
stay away from tobacco and your good.
hit a bong or roll a jay it taste better that way.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Da_Vine]
    #5955160 - 08/11/06 10:13 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

They are both bad, just your body has a harder time getting rid of tobacco tar..I have been smoking weed for 15 years, and almost as long with tobacco too...I have been around people that smoked weed only, and it causes bad lung function over time just like cigarettes.
But I had the choice I would smoke weed...


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: Skunk420]
    #5955176 - 08/11/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

Also... maybe I add...

Many times when people compare cannabis and tabacco, they are not talking about commercially manufactured cigerettes, a TON of additives are put into a cigerette that you buy from a gas station.


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: p_dot_cubensis]
    #5955188 - 08/11/06 10:25 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

who cares about the additives? the tar is what is bad..MJ rocks! I wish I never started smoking or drinking, a lot..I have a hard time staying away from anything with alcohol too...


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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: browndustin]
    #5955330 - 08/11/06 11:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago)

*sigh*

You can't just say "yeah, yeah a fuckin doob's like.... fuckin.... like three cigarrettes, man".

There are a billion things wrong with that kind of comparison. For example, marijuana is not standardized throughout the country. Hell, different seed companies have all developed and bred the same strains but you'll still find lots of very noticable differences. Not to mention, the person who grows it will contribute to more variation, plus the fact that you might be smokin some bunk ass weed that's been sitting around in the sun or mishandled.

You just can't make this kind of comparison. But if you want your concerns to be quelled, the "tar" in a joint is going to be a lot less detrimental than in a cigarrette. Manufacturer tobacco products are a fuckload more devestating on your CNS and lungs than marijuana, hands down.

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Re: MJ vs. Cigarettes [Re: drtyfrnk]
    #5956119 - 08/12/06 10:57 AM (17 years, 5 months ago)

one word: VAPORIZER


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