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OfflineTodcasil
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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: JonnyOnTheSpot]
    #5448897 - 03/27/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

hehe i dont think its quite Darwinism or survival of the fittest, but it definitely makes room in the old folks home

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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Todcasil]
    #5448935 - 03/27/06 08:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Todcasil]
    #5448945 - 03/27/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Todcasil said:
Thats cause you have "class" :laugh:



I dont know.  It's a corn-cob pipe.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Wysefool]
    #5448948 - 03/27/06 08:43 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

i dont smoke but i dont care what if anyone does, do what you want!


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Offlineleery11
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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Todcasil]
    #5448962 - 03/27/06 08:47 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

okay this is a really huge rant but I need to get it out.... I do not support drug prohibition................ you can smoke if you really want to BUT...... here's the rant.

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Todcasil said:

watching those commercials is a choice.




NO!!!!! It's propoganda, now it happens to be sensible unlike "Yesterday my friends told me to smoke a joint and I did... so today they told me to see if I could outrun this junkyard dog." nonsense... but it's propoganda and propganda is all kinds of wrong.... it's not an issue of choice because 1% of the population (namely, me,) "chooses" not to "watch" commercials by muting, but then you have to still look at the TV and absorb visual propoganda to know when your show comes back on.

Though I think the more people realize how evil big tobacco is (not that other companies aren't evil) the better.
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young people are so severely influenced by popular media i think its unhealthy. These commercials exist for the people who think its wrong and know children are glued to the set.



I agree with that.
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smart children ask questions about what they see on TV and form there opinions based on the answers they get from the adults they ask and the peers they ask.


those children generally don't watch TV. TV dulls the ability to ask questions. Eventually you get sick of questioning everything you see, afterall it's an ESCAPE you turn on the TV to turn off the mind a while to relax and let the messages soak in.

anyway fuck second hand smoke. I wish smokers understood what their energy is like... you can smell it from far fucking away sometimes.... if their stench is that bad on the outside I don't want to know what their lungs are on the inside. I recently gave up smoking pot even becasue of ................. SMOKE......... it's fucking suicide .... no other way around that unless you do it so infrequently that your lungs are more oxygen than carcinogen.

If we're all getting cancer from chemicals in our water, cell phones in our pockets, radiation from our computers and tvs and chemtrails the government sprays over citys and ELF frequencies they use to manipulate our emotions and microwave ovens and satellite dishes and cell phone towers and flowing fucking toxic polllution from the cars the spew forth goo into the precious air raped of any sense of restful and restorative energy....

the last thing we need is to be inhaling unfiltered direct smoke everytime we go out in public or worse yet are confined indoors.

YOU KNOW TOBACCO IS WORTHLESS when people smoke fucking 10 cigarettes at a concert! What are you feeling! What are you fucking feeling!? You aren't feeling anything man.... if I smoke one joint at a concert I am DONE for the whole fucking show man.... done... that's all I need the whole evening.... it's MORE than I need the whole evening....

and the next time I smoke a joitn... guess what.... I get the same high! But you smoke a cig..... then you wait 10 minutes and smoke another..... then you wait 30 minutes and smoke a few in succession...... ahhhhh time for a new band to come on stage, smoke break.... smoke break.... smoke break.... ADDICTION of all the fucking things to get caught up in this world...... fuck tobacco.

I feel bad...... I can see how easy it is to get hooked.... I miss my weed man... I miss it.... let alone a stimulant that's supposedly more addictive than heroin... it fucking sucks that people are hooked on tobacco while benevolent teachers like marijuana are suppressed.....

the most evil drugs man........ alcohol... tobacco. the most worthless..... vile..... cause the most problems....... the best drugs aren't addictive.... the best drugs fuck you up if you don't respect them and give you heaven if used probably. the addictive ones just dull your senses until you die.

psychedelics wouldn't stand for that.... they'd put you in a loony bin if you tried to eat acid every single day..... more than likely (who knows)

but you don't smoke a cig a day... you smoke a fucking pack a day.

you fucking die. you are murdering yourself.

and i don't want you murdering US because of your habits! It's one thing to enjoy a smoke now and then.... it's another to be compulsively addicted.... to the point that you feel like you HAVE to do it RIGHT NOW in an indoor space in everyone's fucking air that you can't even wait unti you're at home to smoke or step outside...... and you get indignant when we don't like this bullshit? Maybe you are ignoring the pain in your lungs but just sitting in an apartment with smokers CLOSES MY SINUSES COMPLETELY AND TOTALLY.... gives me a fucked up headache.... depletes any chi that I have flowing.... makes my clothes smell like shit so I have to change them before I go to bed...... and it STAYS tobacco fucking stays in the place.... it doesn't just go away.

there's fucking radiation in it for christ's sake.

it's fucking evil. I watch my friend exhale cig smoke and it's neon green in energetic quality.... i think to myself "wtf"

at least do us a favor and get organic tobacco, roll your own cigarettes so it's a peaceful activity and causes you to smoke less.

or GET A VAPORIZER

they exist.... why dont' peopel use them? vaporgenie.com

it's a simple pipe that you can put tobacco (or weed) in and it will save your lungs quite a bit of a beating..... it's not expensive... why not use it? Why buy cigaretttes you!!!!! you are fucking tools you are ready to pour your money into cigarettes why? Why! You can buy a fuckload of smoking tobacco cheaper than you can cigarettes and simply smoke a pipe... why the hell buy cigarettes other than to be a walking advertisement of lack of free will.

stop smoking or cut it into moderation.

there are so many better drugs for you if you really want to alter your mind now and then.... why tobacco? I understand even while addicted it provides some enjoyment, not from experience but I'm sure it must............ but I mean........ if you stay up all night it feels really good to randomly space out in the day... but I'd trade that for normal nights sleep.

Fuck.

It's your choice..... it's fine... I just don't like my fucking air being polluted any more than it has to and I wish people had the control to not smoke indoors.

I mean................. shit. cigarette smoke is nasty. you're being conditioned to accept poison into your body.... similar to alcohol drinking, but alcohol is another rant and at least it has its uses for moderation.... i'm not sure how you moderate tobacco without starting a habit out of it... i'm sure it can be done though.

I will support your choice as long as you don't pollute my air in doing so, by which I mean, do it away from people outdoors or in your own home.

Claiming you have a right to smoke in public is claiming that we do not have a right to be smoke free. I think ration errs on the side of the non-smokers in public facilities. It's self-control. No one LIEKS second hand smoke that isn't a smoker, they just tolerate it so as to not be rude.


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....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/27/06 08:53 PM)


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InvisibleSilversoul
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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: leery11]
    #5448975 - 03/27/06 08:51 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I have no problem showing a commercial that tells kids that smoking is bad for you. What I do have a problem with is this crusade against the tobacco companies simply because they sell a product known to be bad for your health. That is the same attitude that prohibitionists use, and I find it childish and unacceptable. I'm all for educating kids about the dangers of smoking, but lay off the smokers and those who provide the product for them.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Silversoul]
    #5448986 - 03/27/06 08:56 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

well it would be one thing if they simply sold organic tobacco with as little chemicals involved as possible but they deliberately put additives into their cigarettes for "flavor" and brand dependency.... and originally they marketed cigarettes to children, minorities, anyone.

the point that they are trying to kill people is fairly valid, as they are doing it for money, not for promoting the spiritual use of tobacco or for providing a quality product. they dont' care about quality they want you hooked as much as you can be hooked.

example: salviasupply.... they market their products irresponsibly and could be seen as "evil"..... look at hte recent salvia "related" suicide and how salvia supply.com's "mind bender" advertising was used to get media attention.

it's big business that is evil. if some native americans were selling organic tobacco i would say neato..... these companies though REALLY pushed to get AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE smoking.... which is quite more nefarious than getting as many people as possible eating oreos.

they took a spiritual sacrament or a recreational process and stylized it through media to make it a habitual response..... made the idea socially acceptable that you can smoke always..... t hat it's just a casual thing, not a once in a while thing.

they basically sell addiction, not tobacco. my limited perspective at least.

imagine if every 10 minutes in a classic black and white film someone stopped to eat a big mac.


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!


Edited by leery11 (03/27/06 08:59 PM)


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: leery11]
    #5449097 - 03/27/06 09:23 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I love that vid, Anyone who wants to preach their beliefs can kiss mah ass, and I don't smoke. I don't smoke anything, but damn if I have the man telling my brothers and sisters what is just or not, its all about the consensual crimes, and I'll be damned if I ever live in a police state...wait...I'm damned...aren't I...Oh well, I mean, to make a note on smoking, prohibition of any substance only adds appeal to the rebellious stupid nature of our youth, thats why i hit the rails baby..oh yeah...

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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: leery11]
    #5449292 - 03/27/06 10:19 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I agree with your smoking rant (mostly)..

but..

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leery11 said:it's big business that is evil. if some native americans were selling organic tobacco i would say neato..... these companies though REALLY pushed to get AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE smoking.... which is quite more nefarious than getting as many people as possible eating oreos.




Are you against letting a company make as much money as it possibly can?  We all KNOW that smoking is bad.  Everyone that isn't clinically retarded knows this.  While I disagree with smoking in general, if I owned stock in Phillip Morris (or fed my family through working there) I'd be happy when people blatantly ignore the warnings, the lectures, and the common sense that inhaling smoke is bad.

Also, why would it be ok if it were NAtive Americans selling it? :lol:  They'd also be in the tobacco business to..shocking..Make money


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Noetical]
    #5449307 - 03/27/06 10:22 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

The Noetic Hogan Nip said:
how are smokers "stupid"..?...explain

:cuckoo:

All of my friends who smoke wish they never started in the first place



Im lonely


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #5449319 - 03/27/06 10:26 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I love the Truth commercials. Cigarettes are disgusting, the people that smoke them stink, and the areas they do it in become polluted.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads *DELETED* [Re: Boom]
    #5449338 - 03/27/06 10:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: daimyo]
    #5449339 - 03/27/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

What I find quite funny is why people care so much about the human element...lol...

One word..ahh...can you guess it?

Overpopulation.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Ferris]
    #5449351 - 03/27/06 10:36 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

I'm a smoker..in a week NJ is banning smoking indoors.

I honestly don't care -- I feel bad smoking a cig while it blows in a non-smoker friend's face, as he/she makes a sour disgusted face and waves their hand to move my smoke.

It really is filthy, and I could see why it shouldn't take place in closed indoor places.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: Boom]
    #5449604 - 03/27/06 11:31 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

*lights up a camel wide"

It's my life, it's my choice.

what gets me is non-smokers pestering me.

Oh noez...I MIGHT die from cigarettes and tobacco use. Don't give me this bullshit "second hand smoke might kill me though!" either. If you don't like it steer clear of it. It's not like you don't know where people smoke. If I'm outside having a smoke, don't get in my face a tell me that it's bad for me, I know that. I'm outside out of courtesy to non-smokers, the least they can do is show me some courtesy and mind their own damn business. I realize that non-smokers have this complex where they feel it's their duty to inform everyone who smokes that it's gonna kill them but seriously...enough is a goddamn 'nough. Besides, my grandfather smokes a pack of nons a day and he's 82 and in pretty good health.

end rant on smoking.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: YellowSubmarine]
    #5449610 - 03/27/06 11:33 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Smokers are cool with me as long as they don't smoke in my immediate proximity. That's rude and annoying. And I'll usually say something.


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Re: i f*cking HATE those anti-cigarette TRUTH ads [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5449721 - 03/28/06 12:26 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

"Non-smokers die every day."
-Bill Hicks


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