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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
iwasaClown said:
Bodhi of Ankou said:
Theres a lot of space,but where are all the resources gonna come from and how to you plan on socially engineering the general populace to change there ideals.



If we can make a city in the middle of the desert, (Vegas) i think we can manage to spread out
anywhere else if people really wanted to.
And fuck the mass, general populace. You gotta start one person at a time.



Wheres the water gonna come from to support the exponentially growing mass's? you gonna rape all the aquifers, then what? Wheres all the minerals and metals and wood gonna come from? theres only a finite amount of those around the earth too. You gonna deforest more land and open it up for soil erosion, and decimation of species? How are we gonna keep up this explosion of technology if we dont have the minerals and finite elements integral to there manufacture? You gonna turn the entire earth into a feed lot for humans? rape every forest out there and turn it all into agricultural land?

This



And the current standard of westernized living is COMPLETELY unsustainable. most clean energy techonolgies, most notable being the magnets required in electric generating motors are NOT sustainable viable options due to the finite amount of mineral and material resources on the earth.



the western standard of living is an american consumption based one, of course the whole world couldn't survive at that rate. the only reason america could do it was externalized costs to other countries, driving them down as we climbed. China's turn now.

are you living a standard dumbass consumer american life? instead of worrying about all the people living that way, lead by example.


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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Sit back with your smugness, and take solace in it. Me going out and living off the land free of all this bullshit, and cutting all connection off with everyone I know, isnt gonna help it a bit. The whole fuckin world wants a taste of the western life now and the people that have already tasted it arnt gonna give it up. You want me to go around telling everyone to go back to a way the natives used to live? Get. Fuckin. Real.

This world is over run by swarms of retards that cant think thirty years ahead, I cant change it and I accept that.

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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Lolwut?

China's turn to what? Become a massive consumer based economy? That'll be the day :lol:


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
Sit back with your smugness, and take solace in it. Me going out and living off the land free of all this bullshit isnt gonna help it a bit. The whole fuckin world wants a taste of the western life now and the people that have already tasted it arnt gonna give it up. You want me to go around telling everyone to go back to a way the natives used to live? Get. Fuckin. Real.

This world is over run by swarms of retards that cant think thirty years ahead, I cant change it and I accept that.



the answer isn't fear of change and a regression to systems that we have evolved past, but embracing of what works and what can work, community building and sustainability, not consumerism. the system is the way it is because it's cyclically getting better.

people will hopefully learn from the ruins of America

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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I sure as fuck hope the world learns from it. :bonghit2:

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: LobsterSauce] * 2
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THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERPOPULATION, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS POLLUTION, AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. So continue doing what you do and NEVER question it again!


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: danlennon3]
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danlennon3 said:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERPOPULATION, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS POLLUTION, AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. So continue doing what you do and NEVER question it again!



Dont scream! shhhh


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: danlennon3]
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danlennon3 said:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERPOPULATION, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS POLLUTION, AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. So continue doing what you do and NEVER question it again!



Wtf? the uninformed life is not worth living, always question what you do, change constantly with the constantly changing universe, or decay.

pollution is real, you must be trolllllling


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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:facepalm:

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: LobsterSauce] * 1
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I dont buy this fear mongering.  The growth rate of the population is very much slowing, and set to reach an equilibrium in the next couple hundred years.

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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You done told me, I'd have to do a bunch of research to come up with a good argument to follow that but i'm trying to chill right now.

I agree with you electricfeel (cool song btw), adopting kids is the way to go. That's how i feel about it now, and i currently do not
want to bring an innocent life into this world...but i feel that will change around my 30's.

People just need to use their  heads and use birth control
there are plenty of contraceptives to chose from.

*I just found out my sister-in-law's 23yr old sister
got pregnant by some douchebag that isn't gonna stick around.
Her sister was trying to act all happy and my response was "What!? Why????"
She said "Why? ...idk she just is."
I was gonna go off on her and say "WTF are you guys retarded?"
But i just walked away with a big :facepalm:


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: DieCommie]
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DieCommie said:
I dont buy this fear mongering.  The growth rate of the population is very much slowing, and set to reach an equilibrium in the next couple hundred years.



Right.....

People are just gonna stop fuckin like rabbits and poppin out two three kids each, and other people arnt gonna want to raise there standard of living.



You wanna list some reasons you dont believe this "fearmongering"

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (01/12/11 10:27 AM)

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: linkamathingy]
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linkamathingy said:
danlennon3 said:
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS OVERPOPULATION, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS POLLUTION, AND THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GLOBAL WARMING. So continue doing what you do and NEVER question it again!



Wtf? the uninformed life is not worth living, always question what you do, change constantly with the constantly changing universe, or decay.

pollution is real, you must be trolllllling



Sorry Im angry!


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] * 1
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Bodhi of Ankou said:
You wanna list some reasons you dont believe this "fearmongering"



Sure.  Here is a quote from a UN study, http://www.un.org/esa/population/publications/longrange2/WorldPop2300final.pdf
Quote:
Under the assumptions made in the medium
scenario projection, world population will not
vary greatly after reaching 8.92 billion in 2050
(figure 6). In another 25 years, by 2075, it is projected to peak at 9.22  billion, only 3.4 per cent
above the 2050 estimate. It will then dip slightly
to 8.43 billion by 2175 and rise gradually to 8.97
billion, very close to the initial 2050 figure, by
2300. Therefore, world population growth beyond
2050, at least for the following 250 years, is expected to be minimal




And from the wikipedia article on population growth, its clear to see that the growth is slowing,



There are many more sources, but I think that is fine for now.  I used to believe that overpopulation was an impending problem until a fellow shroomery member pointed out that its not the case.

Populations dont grow exponentially, they grow logistically.  And I think it is clear that the current trend is leveling out on the asymptote of a logistic function.

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: danlennon3]
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Just because the percentage of people having children is going down... doesn't mean the population is going down too! If 50% of the worlds population had children 100 years ago... and nowadays only 35% have children... it still means the population is going up.

What is bigger? 50% of a million? or 35% of 50 million?


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: danlennon3]
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Yes, the population is still going up.  But its going up slower in a clear trend.  That is, the percentages you are listing are going down faster than the population can go up to compensate.  This leads to a net decrease in population growth. (yes, a decrease in population growth, not a decrease in population)

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: DieCommie]
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:hmm:


So it seems the famines, HIV, and low fertility and ongoing conflicts are starting to balance things out, Still an extra 2.5 billion is going to provide some difficult logistical problems. Solvable though, providing there is a total death of consumerism and imperialism.

Edited by Bodhi of Ankou (01/12/11 10:27 AM)

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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As countries become more industrialized, their population growth slows.  In the U.S. population growth is SLOWING.  If it continues to go down, 0% of any number is 0.

More importantly, the U.S. BIRTH RATE, is the lowest it's been in a century

We have also introduced green technologies, which have the potential to lower our environmental footprint.  So all in all, in industrialized countries, the population is decreasing, and the impact of individuals is decreasing.


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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: badchad]
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A lot of those green technologies arnt really green or have suitable sustainability for global adoption when you get into the materials used, costs of extraction and production. like the wind turbines and geothermal turbines that use rare earth metals for the magnets. The refining process's for them are intensely detrimental to the environment. Fusion power looks extremely promising. Same with thorium and molten flouride salt reactors. Which would have seen widespread adoption already if we werent so damn concerned about producing weapons grade uranium.

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Re: World faces overpopulation 'disaster' as number of people is set to rise by 75 million EACH YEAR [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
Yes, this problem is the hardest to address too cause you cant start killing people or telling people not to have children.

The pope is saying not to use condoms in africa...

Sometimes I just think that a solution would be to spread a man made plague on the overpopulated country killing hundreds of million, then I think to myself, yes... thats it psycho...how about nuking a few cities while were at it?

Solving this problem is going up against all the morals in the world.

Limit every country to 1 child per family?

Penalize overpopulated country?

The solution will be very hard to find... any ideas on what to do about it?



I think that AIDS is the solution...that's why the Pope is encouraging unprotected sex.


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