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Circles of Ignorance
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http://www.wimp.com/straightline/

Seems it's hard for humans to get very far at all when they can't see clearly.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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We like going down spirals i guess...


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^v^

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: foliocb]
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Coriolis effect?

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle] * 1
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Kickle said:
http://www.wimp.com/straightline/

Seems it's hard for humans to get very far at all when they can't see clearly.



Deep thoughts.:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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I think we've all had that feeling before that causes you to turn.

Where you are like "I feel like I'm going too far to the left I need to over-correct to the right to compensate (....etc.)"

Terrain kind of prevents you from going in a straight line and when you are blindfolded you have no frame
of reference to correct your deviation from the path, once you've lost your direction and don't know where
you stand on the path then you will be lost.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Flop Johnson]
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Actually it's because the left brain hemisphere, which is related to rational thinking, is more active than the intuitive right hemisphere. The left hemisphere also controls the right side of the body, causing one to continually turn right. It is also the main cause of right wing politics. There, analysis complete.

I'ma gon' shut up now:boot:

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Tony]
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Tony said:
Coriolis effect?


Seems like there is too much variance for that explanation.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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Heh pretty cool.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Flop Johnson]
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Flop Johnson said:
I think we've all had that feeling before that causes you to turn.

Where you are like "I feel like I'm going too far to the left I need to over-correct to the right to compensate (....etc.)"

Terrain kind of prevents you from going in a straight line and when you are blindfolded you have no frame
of reference to correct your deviation from the path, once you've lost your direction and don't know where
you stand on the path then you will be lost.


it has nothing to do with being blindfolded. the same thing will happen to you when you walk through a forrest with clear sight. i think it has to do with the legs being of slightly different length. but i'm not sure anymore.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: moi]
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LOL, maybe to you, all you have to do is remember your relative position to 2 different points, like a mountain, tall tree, hill, etc.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: moi]
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^Good point.

Seeing the forest for the trees, or the other way around, is in both cases seeing.

I'd say even the blindfolded experiment is about seeing (positively). Even if the sample subject is someone blindfolded, what is being considered is the way seeing positively appropriates our sense of being in the world. I would suggest that maybe its not the ignorance of the body that is being considered, but the episteme of sight, in that sense.

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(from the wiki) I would define the episteme retrospectively as the strategic apparatus which permits of separating out from among all the statements which are possible those that will be acceptable within, I won’t say a scientific theory, but a field of scientificity, and which it is possible to say are true or false. The episteme is the ‘apparatus’ which makes possible the separation, not of the true from the false, but of what may from what may not be characterised as scientific.

- Michel Foucault


Nice find on the video. I think the entitlement of "ignorance" here is highly debatable though.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: daytripper23]
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PS. Not that I just disagree; it is what i find thought provoking.

What I mean is the context of "ignorance" should be considered in relation to how the experiment is contrived.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: daytripper23]
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The circles do seem a natural course. Blindness to the act of circling is what I was considering ignorant.


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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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Hmmm I think I disagree on the latter part.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: daytripper23]
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Because it's all perfectly natural?


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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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humans do see clearly but they do not want to see clearly so they have buffers that operate , nullify, fidget, and etc their perceptions ,

there is a witness behind the entire life of the person and everything done, always silent and there, this is the core issue of the self, the invisible core of the onion, it is so , and it leaks into dreams, it tries to give counsel

if one lives contrary to the clear perception they reap consequences of that, some consequences even the grumpiest of us as skeptics can clearly see, man afraid of dogs, man sees dog, man runs away , man likes women, man gets sex, man feels not confident, man doesn't get any sex

withness behind all mans mental conditions that arise in his actions and feelinglimited or free, is aware that that man could get him tons of sex if he changed his operating system

that is who we are , and , when people seem asleep, in a way they are, but in another way they do see you somehow .  IF you are operating in clarity


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I am the MacDaddy of Heimlich County, I play it Straight Up Yo!

....I embrace my desire to feel the rhythm, to feel connected enough to step aside and weep like a widow, to feel inspired, to fathom the power, to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain, to swing on the spiral of our divinity and still be a human......
Om Namah Shivaya, I tell you What!

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: leery11]
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humans do see clearly but they do not want to see clearly so they have buffers that operate , nullify, fidget, and etc their perceptions ,

That says it all to me. The rest is just rearranging the same thing.


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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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Kickle said:
Because it's all perfectly natural?


Yeah!
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Not seeing isn't blindness...

blindness, as such, as well as ignorance, as such, seem to be the preconditions of an experiment geared towards-linearity.

But why should linearity be intuitive in the first place?

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: Kickle]
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Eh...I think it's simply the way our primitive brain works. Straying far from camp is dangerous for your health.

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Re: Circles of Ignorance [Re: fazdazzle]
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But why should linearity be intuitive in the first place?

Decay and death.


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