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liftedoff420
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whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh
#1359056 - 03/08/03 07:20 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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is there a differency in potency?
this dude i kno said he drank a tea and he was tripping/buzzed for almost 2 days
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Strumpling
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: liftedoff420]
#1359063 - 03/08/03 07:24 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Either your friend had what sounds like a pretty bad trip, or that wasn't the right type of tea.. As for the difference in potency... I don't notice a difference, but I've seen plenty of people here make the claim that it is a less intense trip. I will say that it seems to come on a bit faster well - good-times to you man edit (addition): regarding your friend.. I dunno man there may be some type of health issue or something..
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Edited by Strumpling (03/08/03 07:30 PM)
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: liftedoff420]
#1359790 - 03/09/03 06:35 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I agree with Strumpling. Tea hits you harder, but fades quicker. You also face the risk of destroying some of the actives with the hot water.
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TheHateCamel
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: liftedoff420]
#1359893 - 03/09/03 07:43 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Edited by TheHateCamel (12/07/07 05:50 PM)
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OctopusDr
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: TheHateCamel]
#1359943 - 03/09/03 08:15 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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This is a letter I send to a friend. I was trying to explain it to him.
Psilocybe Mushrooms This dude was talking about tea and its positive aspects and he said a lot of things I didn't know. I'll try to sum it up in my own words. First he said that making shroom tea reduces the dose by a little less than half the potency. But, since the psilocybin is all defused into the tea juice, your stomach doesn't have to digest it (chemicals can just go straight from the lining of you stomach/intestines to your bloodstream). So you get all the effect much faster and all at once, thus more visuals. Also the whole experience is shorter, due to the psilocybin lost in the heat during the tea making process.
When we eat the shroom whole, our stomachs have to digest the actual fruit mass of the mushroom before the psilocybin can be dispersed into the blood stream (much like a time released pill). This accounts for the time it takes for the trip to begin as well as the waves of intensity at the beginning. This also causes the experience to last longer because the trip is spread out, instead of all at once.
I would prefer not or make tea or cool aid partly because I feel uncomfortable destroying some of my mushroom's potency. But I have a better way to insure a stronger trip with less mushrooms. >You make the mushrooms into a powder by grinding or blendering them. You can get a faster digestion rate this way. It wont be quite as high as the tea but it would be close. Then put the powder into some ice-cream and milk in a blender. Ive heard you can disguise the taste 100% this way. You know, a milk shake!
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: OctopusDr]
#1359977 - 03/09/03 08:30 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would prefer not or make tea or cool aid partly because I feel uncomfortable destroying some of my mushroom's potency. But I have a better way to insure a stronger trip with less mushrooms
Juice will NOT Kill any of the actives man, not unless you boil the mushrooms in it.
I highly recommend using any type of cold beverage like Juice or Kool Aid, and add a little lemon juice to it to make it a little more acidic, but not to do tea unless you boil it then let it cool to a luke warm and then add the mushrooms, plus a little lemon juice if you want. I have only noticed a speedier onset with this method and have accounted for no loss in the duration of the trip, unless you add the time waiting for it to hit you .
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: TeKn0]
#1360034 - 03/09/03 08:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you chew them until there is nothing left to chew it comes on super fast and powerful. And NOTHING is wasted.
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pillsbury420
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: sirreal]
#1364484 - 03/11/03 01:33 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I would fucking puke if i kept them in my mouth for too long.. but thats just me.
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Fick_Duck
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: pillsbury420]
#1364688 - 03/11/03 03:10 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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i hear ya man, i cant chew that shit to a pulp, too nasty. maybe if you did the honey thing (coat the shrooms with honey), that might help, never tried that though. i put mine in the coffee grinder till theyre powder and mix em with a double shot of orange juice, then chase that with fresh orange juice. its still nasty, but i think of it like some nasty ass whiskey, no pain, no gain.
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: Fick_Duck]
#1365534 - 03/11/03 08:33 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I love the taste of my mushies....taste,shape,color,odor...
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sirreal
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: diacamomo]
#1365622 - 03/11/03 09:02 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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If you do not enjoy the taste of the mushrooms maybe you should not be partaking of them! Part of the experience is being able to eat them. If you cannot "tolerate" the taste of them, maybe you are not ready for the experience. I love everything about magic mushrooms! including the taste!
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Edited by sirreal (03/11/03 09:05 AM)
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: sirreal]
#1366833 - 03/11/03 04:28 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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So just cuz someone's tastebuds really hate mushrooms then that person isn't ready and shouldn't experiment w/ the psychedelic experience? That's silly.
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: sirreal]
#1366875 - 03/11/03 04:46 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have done them both, and shroom tea more recently. I like shroom tea a lot better then eating them. Sometimes they don't taste bad at all and other times, they taste absolutely disgusting. Shroom tea brings on the trip faster but I do notice the duration is a little less then when I eat them. But then again, my trips generally only last about 3-4 hours. I have had a few exceptions where my trips lasted about 8 hours (on 3.5 grams)
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: ShrewDigsby]
#1367220 - 03/11/03 06:35 PM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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that is pretty silly...
the best way, in my opinion, is to take them fresh or dried with orange juice. the oj helps in so many ways. i think the extra acid helps break down the mushrooms and plus you get a bunch of vitamins. orange juice is like liquid energy. it's just good for you and it tastes good.
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sirreal
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: ShrewDigsby]
#1368272 - 03/12/03 06:02 AM (21 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, that was kind of unfair. I was pretty buzzed when I posted that.
But it is hard for me to understand why some people have such a hard time with the way mushrooms taste. Fresh they taste like regular mushrooms just slightly bitter. Dried they taste kinda sweet. I understand that some people do not like the taste of mushrooms at all but it only lasts for a minute or two. Tough it out and don't waste anything.
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chunder
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: sirreal]
#1369396 - 03/12/03 12:38 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you got some sweet tasting dried shrooms, then please spread them spores around!
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: chunder]
#1370082 - 03/12/03 03:48 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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There's an age-old method to get down almost any nasty tasting substance: hold your nose while you chew and don't let go till you swallow. Almost all our sense of taste is actually smell (besides the basics : salt, sugar, bitter, sour). The subtleties of any food flavor is actually in the smell. So, hold your nose until you chew the mushrooms to a pulp, then swallow. The only hard part is breathing through your mouth while you chew.
You'll be surprised at how effective this is. It works for children taking medicine etc....
Be well
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: chunder]
#1370093 - 03/12/03 03:51 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I kinda like the taste, it's sort of like the shells of sunflower seeds.
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Roger_irrelevant
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: sirreal]
#1389421 - 03/18/03 07:59 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, that was kind of unfair. I was pretty buzzed when I posted that.
But it is hard for me to understand why some people have such a hard time with the way mushrooms taste. Fresh they taste like regular mushrooms just slightly bitter. Dried they taste kinda sweet. I understand that some people do not like the taste of mushrooms at all but it only lasts for a minute or two. Tough it out and don't waste anything.
Fresh is by far the best way to go, with any strain. Unfortunately it's not always convenient Eating dried cubensis is a breeze, and in fact they do actually taste good. Dried liberty caps are stringy/wirey, while the caps tend to soften with the saliva the stems stay that way and get caught between the teeth. Also they have a real oper-powering musty odour. Wavy caps (psilocybe cyanescens) have caps that are as rough as leather and I find this very difficult to get down without gagging when trying to eat dry.
As for tea making the best way is to actually keep the fruit bodies in the tea. So while you're sipping your tea, you eating the floating shrooms and when you've finished the tea you can eat the rest of the rehydrated shrooms. No waste, faster comeup, same duration, no overpowering dry musty mush taste
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Re: whats better? shroom tea or eating shrooms dried/fresh [Re: liftedoff420]
#1389462 - 03/18/03 08:17 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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After experimenting quite a bit with tea I've decided to stick with just eating the dried shrooms. Tea pros: none Tea neutral: faster comeup Tea cons: hassle to make, some psiloc(yb)in is destroyed, much shorter duration of trip Better do some experimenting of your own to see if tea is worth it for you
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