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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
Well I don't know about all of the theorists, but David Wilcock who appeared on the show has done psychedelics, had out-of-body experiences and is very familiar with shamanism among other mystical traditions. :shrug: I'd be willing to bet a good deal of the theorists have a context similar to ours, or perhaps even hold pieces to the puzzle we haven't fathomed.


yeah david wilcock is very interesting, and somewhat of an enigma to me. At the very least, I'd say maybe his theories are more worth consideration than many other theorists

but at the same time

Quote:
"I can't explain to you why, but there is no way sorcerers can be mistaken about their seeing,"
don Juan said, in a tone that admitted no argument. "Now, the conclusions they arrive at from their seeing might be wrong,
but that would be because they are naive, uncultivated. In order to avoid this disaster, sorcerers have to cultivate their minds, in whatever form they can."
He softened up then and remarked that it certainly would be infinitely safer for sorcerers to remain solely at the level of describing what they see,
but that the temptation to conclude and explain, even if only to oneself, is far too great to resist.


my main point being: when dealing with the mysterious, one can never be too sure about any description or conclusion

i put myself out there and mentioned meeting with elder beings, at the risk of completely discrediting myself :scream:. They said all they want from us is to live. But any attempt at drawing a solid description is bound to be erroneous at least to some extent. Mine is no exception


in conclusion: i know what I have seen, and knew when it was absolute, but with my limited mind I remain inconclusive in general. The only thing I'm sure about is doin thangs

its all very interesting stuff, and I know how it feels to have disdain for total skepticism, but it is still important not to take anything too seriously. I'll know it when I see it, and as of yet I've seen unfathomable things but no UFOs yet

aside from that spaceship that was much larger than the earth :crazy2:. Was it real? Maybe, maybe not...but if it were, that would also imply that ETs are not visiting in physical vessels, in my ridiculous opinion. :shrug:

the problem i have with many of the theorists is that they have a certain idea of what is what (like any of us), and try to make evidence fit their theories when it could imply something completely different...unfathomable, even

Edited by the bizzle (11/17/10 02:50 PM)

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: the bizzle]
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Yea, I agree with you. It all is one big mystery and it's important to take it all with a grain of salt. I've had contact with multidimensional beings and non-physical craft in what I term non-physical reality - the astral, dream-scape, ayauascha realm whatever you want to call it. I try and take my experiences and fit them within some sort of grand framework, but I've been unsuccessful thus far. I feel like time is on our side as far as clearing some things up though. So for now I will look to the sky. :cool:

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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seriously.


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I close my eyes and seize it
I clench my fists and beat it
I light my torch and burn it
I am the beast I worship....

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: the bizzle] * 2
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the bizzle said:
The only thing I'm sure about is doin thangs.




Do the damn thang!


You make some good points, bizzle.

One thing that really gets me thinking when im on this subject is when you see how ignorant we have been on the histories of ancient civilizations.

It needs to be pointed out how much we really don't know about ancients.. hell, we've been thinking this whole time that the airplane is a recent invention and no other civilization has been as advanced as us to even think about it.

They obviously had knowlege of aerodynamics.


I think we have not been giving these ancient civilizations enough credit for the amazing things they did, and it's extremely arrogant of us to think that they weren't as advanced as us just because there weren't any cell phones back then.
IMO, these people were either just as advanced as us OR maybe even more.
No, not in technology, but definitely in other aspects.


I think the focus should be drawn away from the UFOs for a sec and point out how absurdly wrong we've been about the ancients.


Humans are capable of doing things that most people would think are "superhuman" or out of this world.
I really believe there is no limit to our potential.

Think of it this way. If you commit a month or two to play an instrument and really dedicate yourself to it, then by the end of the 2 months you will show some noticeable improvement from when you started.

Now imagine if you dedicated your etire life to this, and your kids' lives, and their kids.
That instrument might turn into the fucking pyramids.


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I need Jesus.

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: Space Elf]
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p4kSouL said:



I suggest you take a look at this TV show.


True. I actually am watching it. Its an interesting premise but i dont think obama's following,haha

the bizzle said:
c0sm0nautt said:
skatealex2 said:
:facepalm:


Have you seen that show Ancient Aliens? :eek:


...


need i post again about why that show is absurd? (but im guessing youre joking)


Ive seen the show, but their evidence doesn't seem compelling to me from what ive seen honestly.  They seem to be assuming everhing is aliens with no actual proof.  One of them i thought was interesting though, with the symbols you could see only from the sky.
Space Elf said:
Things haven't changed much in terms of the military/government stance on UFOs since 1947. They didn't know what the alien agenda was back then and they still don't know what it is today. Until they prove aliens don't pose a threat to the human race, they're not going to disclose this. The aliens will disclose themselves. By the way, there are plenty of signs that this will happen soon. The exponential rise in UFO sightings in recent times is the strongest evidence. Even Nick Pope said that in 2008, UFO activity more than doubled what it was in 2007.



Yeah, this is pretty much what i was saying.  On a federal level nothing has changed and there's no incentive for the government to come out with anything.  It could just be that they really don't know much, but i'd bet some people in higher level of government know something.

Edited by skatealex2 (11/17/10 10:33 PM)

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: skatealex2]
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Man you know maybe society is being desensitized to aliens.  There seems to be ufo movies being announced every other week now.


another one i just heard about, cowboys and aliens. -http://trailers.apple.com/movies/universal/cowboysandaliens/cowboysandaliens-tlr1_r640s.mov?width=640&height=272

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: Spiralout112]
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Spiralout112 said:
http://news.discovery.com/space/earth-like-planet-life.html


The Earth-like exoplanet only 20 light-years away is cool, but I also found this interesting:

5 ways space can drive you insane

What about the zillion ways Earth can drive you insane?

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: the bizzle]
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I think its ok to say IT is a mystery.
But i think we can surely work our way through the ideas , theories and evidence we do have to more firmly establish which part of it is really a mystery.

Lets take some simple facts into consideration

Ancient human beings were heavily exposed to plants and fungi that are known for their hallucinogenic properties.

Ancient human beings did draw paintings and did tell stories of visitors from the skies.

Ancient humans and still humans to this day report futuristic visions , alien encounters or even alien abductions in the time period when they are supposed to be sleeping.

Modern man mostly reports these experiences, either under the influence of psychedelics or at times of sleep.

Four facts.
ok..

now , we can connect these and postulate that there is a connection between ET experiences and altered states of consciousness.

Now.. we could even take it further and try to establish exactly which chemical compounds have the greatest success rate for ET experiences.

Direct research with test subjects and the administration of these compounds is now illegal.
What we have to rely on , is the research that has already been done and the reports of people ingesting these various substances.

When you do this , you will find that DMT is mostly responsible for these experiences.
Without a doubt, highest success rate.

DMT IS the mystery.
It is the key.
Thats where we should be doing hardcore scientific research.
From everything i just said , does it not seem reasonable to thoroughly investigate this ?
It could explain the tales of our history.
It could explain current phenomena.
It could explain , a lot about the brain.

Why isn't it being done ?
Why does this substance occur everywhere in nature?
We might not have hard evidence that the brain produces it , but it has already been documented to exist in the body.

<< DMT is created in small amounts by the human body during normal metabolism[1] by the enzyme tryptamine-N-methyltransferase >>

This is the main mystery , the big fuckin story , the answer we've been waiting for.

This is why wilcock does make sense.
The first video he put out that brought most of his popularity was the 2012 enigma in which he talks about this.
But then it all takes a different course with channelings and mad conspiracy theories and it just goes to a whole new story that most people won't take seriously.
Same goes for the history channel and the ancient alien thing.


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All my posts in this forum are strictly fictional.
They are derived from an acute mental illness , from which i am forced to lie compulsively.
I have never induced any kind of mind altering substance in my life  and i have no intentions whatsoever of doing anything illegal.
If I have ever suggested such a thing it would have most likely been , due to my personality disorder and i probably do not remember it at all..

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Re: No signs of ufo disclosure getting any closer [Re: p4kSouL]
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p4kSouL said:



I suggest you take a look at this TV show.



You mean the world is going to be overpopulated with pretty people, just like the the TV has always said it would? Guess I better not throw out that old tube just yet then...


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Madness comes like a mouse out of the cupboard and they hand me a photograph of the moon



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