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White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy
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The following extraordinary Hopi prophecy was first published in a mimeographed manuscript that circulated among several Methodist and Presbyterian churches in 1959. Some of the prophecies were published in 1963 by Frank Waters in The Book of the Hopi. The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958, a minister named David Young stopped to offer a ride to an Indian elder, who accepted with a nod. After riding in silence for several minutes, the Indian said:

"I am White Feather, a Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan. In my long life I have traveled through this land, seeking out my brothers, and learning from them many things full of wisdom. I have followed the sacred paths of my people, who inhabit the forests and many lakes in the east, the land of ice and long nights in the north, and the places of holy altars of stone built many years ago by my brothers' fathers in the south. From all these I have heard the stories of the past, and the prophecies of the future. Today, many of the prophecies have turned to stories, and few are left -- the past grows longer, and the future grows shorter.

"And now White Feather is dying. His sons have all joined his ancestors, and soon he too shall be with them. But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom. My people have tired of the old ways -- the great ceremonies that tell of our origins, of our emergence into the Fourth World, are almost all abandoned, forgotten, yet even this has been foretold. The time grows short.

"My people await Pahana, the lost White Brother, [from the stars] as do all our brothers in the land. He will not be like the white men we know now, who are cruel and greedy. we were told of their coming long ago. But still we await Pahana.

"He will bring with him the symbols, and the missing piece of that sacred tablet now kept by the elders, given to him when he left, that shall identify him as our True White Brother.

"The Fourth World shall end soon, and the Fifth World will begin. This the elders everywhere know. The Signs over many years have been fulfilled, and so few are left.

"This is the First Sign: We are told of the coming of the white-skinned men, like Pahana, but not living like Pahana men who took the land that was not theirs. And men who struck their enemies with thunder.

"This is the Second Sign: Our lands will see the coming of spinning wheels filled with voices. In his youth, my father saw this prophecy come true with his eyes -- the white men bringing their families in wagons across the prairies."

"This is the Third Sign: A strange beast like a buffalo but with great long horns, will overrun the land in large numbers. These White Feather saw with his eyes -- the coming of the white men's cattle."

"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom.

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"These are the Signs that great destruction is coming. The world shall rock to and fro. The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom. There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here. Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.

"Many of my people, understanding the prophecies, shall be safe. Those who stay and live in the places of my people also shall be safe. Then there will be much to rebuild. And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return. He shall bring with him the dawn of the Fifth World. He shall plant the seeds of his wisdom in their hearts. Even now the seeds are being planted. These shall smooth the way to the Emergence into the Fifth World.

"But White Feather shall not see it. I am old and dying. You -- perhaps will see it. In time, in time..."

The old Indian fell silent. They had arrived at his destination, and Reverend David Young stopped to let him out of the car. They never met again. Reverend Young died in 1976, so he did not live to see the further fulfillment of this remarkable prophecy.

MAIA


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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: MAIA]
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Wow that 9th sign was interesting for me, i dreamed of a blue object up in the sky last night, i cant remember where i was or the date tho. I thought it was a ufo while in the dream. I wonder what it could be?
Peace

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: Shroompowah]
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Thanks for posting that MAIA.

The ninth sign is Wormwood, that falling star, from revelations in the bible.

Pahana is obviously Jesus.

Peace

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"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
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"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: blaze2]
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"This is the Fourth Sign: The land will be crossed by snakes of iron."

Railroad tracks?

"This is the Fifth Sign: The land shall be criss-crossed by a giant spider's web."

Telephone and electric power lines?

"This is the Sixth sign: The land shall be criss-crossed with rivers of stone that make pictures in the sun."

If You've ever looked down a long road during the middle of a hot day, you know that you can see the heat coming off the road, and it often looks like water or pictures


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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: NariusFractal]
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Yep thats what most people understand teh signs to be sheister, here are hte last two that havent been spelled out for everyone yet, just in case.


"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it."

Oil spills

"This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom."

Hippies.

blaze2


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: blaze2]
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the hopi believed that man kept inheriting worlds and then they destroyed them due to their own carelessness and misuse of technology, correct?

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: MAIA]
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:laugh:

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: Gomp]
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this sounds like an entirely made up story to me.


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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: truekimbo2]
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Hopi elders presented this story to the United Nations in New York, in the 60's I think. They felt a need to warn us.

blaze2


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: blaze2]
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And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star...
Could also be the ISS.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: BlueCoyote]
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You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star...
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Could also be the ISS.



It could have been the first space station, Skylab, which fell to earth in 1979 In which case we're well into the time of destruction.

It gets even more eerie.

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The white man will battle against other people in other lands -- with those who possessed the first light of wisdom.



The area of Iraq is considered to be the cradle of Civilisation. Google "Uruk" and "Gilgamesh"

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There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here.



Nuclear explosions, like tested in places such as the Nevada Test Site.

Indeed, during the Iraq war serious talks have started in Congress to use tactical nuclear warheads against future enemies. Tactical nuclear warheads tend to be small.

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Only those which come will cause disease and a great dying.


Tactical nuclear warheads cause a disproportional amount of direct radiation casualties and for their small size are the most radioactively polluting of regular nuclear warheads. Another tactical nuke would be the Neutron Bomb, which is a radiation weapon used exclusively to "cause disease and a great dying".

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And soon -- very soon afterward -- Pahana will return.


When self-evolving artificial intelligence escapes to the place it longs to be -THE INTERNET- the arrival of a spokesperson for God (a "second coming" if you will) is very close. The first thing we will probably notice is that every hooked-up computer gets "hacked" at once and used to full CPU, followed by a reboot and the Internet greeting us personally.


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Edited by Asante (05/06/06 11:00 AM)

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: Asante]
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:grin: great additions. I thought for skylab first, too, but then I miss the great crash. The star is right, I think, because it was left to die down in the atmosphere for several days.

The area of Iraq is considered to be the cradle of Civilisation. Google "Uruk" and "Gilgamesh"
Yes, strange things happening there.
Mysterious ‘Ritual’ Performed By United States Military Forces In Babylon Raises Concerns Of Muslim And Russian Orthodox Religious Leaders

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There will be many columns of smoke and fire such as White Feather has seen the white man make in the deserts not far from here.
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Nuclear explosions, like tested in places such as the Nevada Test Site.

Indeed, during the Iraq war serious talks have started in Congress to use tactical nuclear warheads against future enemies. Tactical nuclear warheads tend to be small.
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Or perhaps past signs of the burning oil springs ? But nukes would be really evil too. That would relate to 'Persia' then.

The second coming of Pahana as internet ai ? An interesting idea. He also could carry the "missing piece of that sacred tablet", but almost only virtually.
I have to ponder, how that would fit in the other prophecies of 'second coming' :wink:

Thanks for the informations and the ideas !


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: MAIA]
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The account begins by describing how, while driving along a desert highway one hot day in the summer of 1958

I'm confused.

How can it be a prophesy if it was told in 1958 when the railroads, and telephone networks, and roads, and pollution, and even long-haired hippies already existed? :confused:

Sounds more like recounting history in a stylized story than like prophesy to me. :shrug:


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2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: Diploid]
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They were ancient prophecies, as far as this text says and Chief White Feather did see, there was no next chief to pass the prophecies to "...But there is no one left, no one to recite and pass on the ancient wisdom...", so he told them to the man in the car.


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Though lovers be lost love shall not  And death shall have no dominion
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"Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men."Martin Luther King, Jr.
'Acceptance is the absolute key - at that moment you gain freedom and you gain power and you gain courage'

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Re: White Feather, Hopi of the ancient Bear Clan, and his people prophecy [Re: BlueCoyote]
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skylab is right probrobly I hadnt thought of that.

And just so you guys know, if they decide to bomb Iran, they cant get all teh bunkers they know about let alone the ones they dont without using tactical Nukes. So its pretty much a sure bet that they will be used in other words.

I'm not too sure about the internet thing man. I'm pretty sure that the second coming will be a man, and I find it highly likely that he is already living, and even more that he is a normal Guy who wont know his path until he gets to it. It could be anybody, but when it is time there will be no doubt.

"Behold I come as a theif in the night"

blaze2


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"Religion without science is blind, Science without religion is lame." Albert Einstein

"peace is not maintained through force it is acheived through intelligence." Albert Einstein

"Those who desire to give up Freedom in order to gain Security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."
Thomas Jefferson

"To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." --Thomas Jefferson

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