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Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran
#5590039 - 05/04/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Arab Prince Mars, Sun, Venus, Leo, The rule of the Church will succumb by sea: Towards Persia very nearly a million men, The true serpent will invade Byzantium and Egypt. ~ Nostradamus Century V, Quatrain 25
Nafi' ibn 'Utbah said : "The Prophet (S) said, 'You will attack Arabia, and Allah will enable you to conquer it. Then you will attack Persia, and Allah will enable you to conquer it. Then you will attack Rome, and Allah will enable you to conquer it. Then you will attack the Dajjal, and Allah will enable you to conquer him.'" (Muslim.)
~ Hadeeth
A study of the events mentioned in the Islamic prophecies in the Holy Koran and the Hadeeths reveal an astonishing similarity with the events described in the prophecies of Nostradamus. However, the perspective is different probably due to the fact that they belong to the opposing camp. The basic premise of the Islamic prophecies are the same i.e. during the war a Dajjal (Antichrist) will appear and will be countered by the Christ in His Second Coming (described as "Jesus the son of Mary" in Islam) assisted by Imam Mahdi (equivalent to the French Pope as mentioned by Nostradmus). After the war, the Hour of Judgement will come. The point of contention is obviously from which side these people will come. However, the basic fact that there will be a war between Muslims and Christians (described as Romans in the Islamic texts) are also mentioned in the Islamic prophecies. Below are some of these prophecies. Read them and form your own opinion.
Book 37, Number 4281: Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The flourishing state of Jerusalem will be when Yathrib is in ruins, the ruined state of Yathrib will be when the great war comes, the outbreak of the great war will be at the conquest of Constantinople and the conquest of Constantinople when the Dajjal (Antichrist) comes forth. He (the Prophet) struck his thigh or his shoulder with his hand and said: This is as true as you are here or as you are sitting (meaning Mu'adh ibn Jabal). Comments: Yathrib is Medina, one of the holy places of Islam. Constantinople is the modern Istanbul in Turkey. It is said that the Antichrist will be revealed to the world after the conquest of Constantinople. "You will invade the Arabian Peninsula and Allah will grant it (to you). Then (you will conquer) Persia and Allah will grant it (to you). Then, you will invade Ar-Rum and Allah will grant it (to you). Then, you will invade The Dajjal and Allah will grant him (to you)." Nafi' said to Jabir, "O Jabir! We do not believe that the Dajjal will appear until Ar-Rum (Rome) is conquered. (Muslim.) Comments: This prophecy bears a striking resemblance to quatrain V.25 of Nostradamus. Muslims will invade Arabian Peninsula which probably refers to a coup against the present western-leaning royal family. Then they will conquer Iran, probably from the present reformist government there. The conquest of Turkey, mentioned before has been described earlier. Next will come the conquest of Rome which has been described also by Nostradamus. The Prophet (S) said, "The Hour (of Judgement) will not come until the furthest border of the Muslims will be in Bula." Then he said, "O 'Ali!" 'Ali said, "May my father and mother be sacrificed for you!" The Prophet (S) said, "You will fight the Romans, and those who come after you will fight them, until the best people among the Muslims, the people of al-Hijaz, will go out to fight them, fearing nothing but Allah. They will conquer Constantinople with Tasbih and Takbir (saying "Subhan Allah" and "Allahu Akbar"), and they will obtain booty the like of which has never been seen - they will share it out by scooping it up with their shields. Someone will come and say, 'The Dajjal has appeared in your land', but he will be lying. Anyone who takes notice of him will regret it, and anyone who ignores him will regret it." (Ibn Majah.) Comments: Here also the war with Romans (Christians) and the conquering of Constantinople (Istanbul) is described. Turkey is a NATO member and its government is a pro-western one. So, the attack on Turkey would not come as a surprise. But this would also involve all of NATO in that war as aggression against a NATO state is taken as aggression against all the member countries. Book 37, Number 4282: Narrated Mu'adh ibn Jabal:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The greatest war, the conquest of Constantinople and the coming forth of the Dajjal (Antichrist) will take place within a period of seven months. Comments: It is said here that the conquest of Constantinople (Istanbul) in Turkey (which was also called Bizantium in the past) would follow the coming forth of the Antichrist within 7 months. Book 37, Number 4285: Narrated AbudDarda':
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The place of assembly of the Muslims at the time of the war will be in al-Ghutah near a city called Damascus, one of the best cities in Syria Comments: It is revealed here that the Muslim army will assemble near Damascus in Syria during the war. This points to a possible confrontation with Israel and that the war will engulf all of the Middle East. After the battle with the Romans, which ended with the conquest of Constantinople, the Dajjal will appear, and Jesus the son of Mary will descend from the Heaven to the earth, to the white minaret in the east of Damascus, at the time of Salat al-Fajr (the morning prayer), as we shall see in the Sahih Traditions.
Dhu Mukhammar said, "The Prophet (S) said, 'You will make a peace-treaty with the Romans, and together you will invade an enemy beyond Rome. You will be victorious and take much booty. Then you will camp in a hilly pasture; one of the Roman men will come and raise a cross and say "Victory to the Cross", so one of the Muslims will come and kill him. Then the Romans will break the treaty, and there will be a battle. They will gather an army against you and come against you with eighty banners, each banner followed by ten thousand men.'" (Ahmad, Abu Dawud, Ibn Majah.) Comments: Here it is specifically said that the war will be fought beyond Rome, i.e. it will spread in the rest of Europe too. The Islamic army will be victorious. Then there will be a peace treaty, probably with the Anti-Pope as described in Q.VII.46 of the prophecies of Nostradamus. But the Anti-Pope will be killed when he rebels. The peace treaty will be broken by the West and a war will follow with the occupying Muslim force and combined forces from 80 countries with 800000 soldiers will fight the Islamic army. The outcome of this war is not specified here. When Mustawrid al-Qurashi was sitting with 'Amr ibn al-'As, he said, "I heard the Prophet (S) say, 'The Hour will come when the Romans will be in the majority.' 'Amr asked him, "What are you saying?" He said, "I am repeating that which I heard from the Prophet (S)." 'Amr said, "If you say this, it is true, because they have four good characteristics: they are the most able to cope with tribulation, the quickest to recover after disaster and to return to the fight after disaster, and are the best as far as treating the poor, weak and orphans is concerned. They have a fifth characteristic which is very good: they do not allow themselves' to be oppressed by their kings." Comments: Here, however, it is hinted that the Romans (Christians) will win and thereafter the Hour of Judgement or the Judgement Day will come. Imam Ahmad narrated that Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-Aas said, "While we were around the Messenger of Allah) writing (the Hadith) the Messenger of Allah sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam was asked/ 'Which of these two cities will be conquered first, Constantinople or Romiyah (Rome)?' He said, 'The city of Heraclius will first be conquered.' He meant Constantinople.'' [Al-Hakim, Al-Mustadrak, vol. 4, p. 508. Comments: It is mentioned here that the city of Istanbul will be conquered first followed by Rome. The Prophet (S) said, "You will fight the Romans, and Believers from the Hijaz will fight them after you, until Allah enables them to conquer Constantinople and Rome with Tasbih and Takirr (saying "Subhdn Allah" and "Allahu Akbar"). Its fortifications will collapse, and they will obtain booty the like of which has never been seen, so that they will share it out by scooping it up with their shields. Then someone will cry, 'O Muslims! the Dajjal is in your country, with your families', and the people will leave the wealth. Anyone who takes notice will regret it and anyone who ignores it will regret it. They will ask, 'Who shouted?' but they will not know who he is. They will say, 'Send a vanguard to Ilya'. If the Dajjal has appeared, you will hear about his deeds.' So they will go and see, and if they see that everything is normal, they will say, 'No-one would give a shout like that for no reason, so let us go together to Ilya'.' If we find the Dajjal there we will fight him together, until Allah decides between us and him. If we do not find the Dajjal, we will go back to our country and our families.' " Comments: After the fall of Rome and probably Europe, rumour will spread among the Muslim army about the appearance of the Antichrist in their countries. Abu Hurayrah said, "The Prophet (S) said, 'The Hour will not come until the Romans camp at al-A'mash or Dabiq. An army, composed of the best people on earth at that time, will come out from Madinah to meet them. When they have arranged themselves in ranks, the Romans will say, 'Do not stand between us and those who took prisoners from amongst us. Let us fight with them.' The Muslims will say, 'No, by Allah, we will never stand aside from you and our brothers.' Then they will fight. One-third will run away, and Allah will never forgive them. One-third will be killed, and they will be the best of martyrs in Allah's sight. 'One-third, who will never be subjected to trials or tribulations, will win, and will conquer Constantinople. Whilst they are sharing out the booty, after hanging their swords on the olive-trees, Satan will shout to them that the Dajjal has taken their place among their families. They will rush out, but will find that it is not true. When they come to Syria, the Dajjal will appear, while they are preparing for battle and drawing up the ranks. When the time for prayer comes, Jesus the son of Mary will descend and lead them in prayer. When the enemy of Allah (i.e. the Dajjal) sees him, he will start to dissolve like salt in water, but Allah will kill him.'" (Muslim.) Comments: Here it has been described that the Christian army while trying to rescue some people captured by a Muslim country will be confronted by a Muslim alliance. This reminds one of Nostradamus's quatrain III.78, where the capture of British and Germans by Eastern forces has been described. Turkey will probably side with the NATO forces. After this, a war will ensue, resulting in conquering of Constantinople by the Islamic forces. Later the "Dajjal" or the Antichrist will appear in Syria when preparation of war is going on at that front. The Antichrist will be killed by "Jesus the son of Mary" in that war. Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: The Mahdi will be of my stock, and will have a broad forehead a prominent nose. He will fill the earth will equity and justice as it was filled with oppression and tyranny, and he will rule for seven years. Comments: Here the Imam Mahdi has been described. Imam Mahdi is very similar to the Pope as described by Nostradamus, but on opposing sides. Hadhrat Abbas (R.A) narrates that Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wassallam) has said, "Islam will spread far and wide, across the seas. Horses will cross the land and seas in the cause of Jihaad. Then a time will come wherein a group of people will emerge which recites the Quraan. They will claim,
'We have recited the Quraan and is there anyone who understands the Quraan better than us? There is NO ONE more proficient than us in the study of the Quraan.'
Then Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wassallam) asked the Sahaba, "Do you see any good in their claims?" The Sahaba replied, "No". Rasulallah (Sallallahu Alayhi Wassallam) said, "But these conceited claimants will be from my Ummah and will be the fuel of the Fire."
-from "Signs of Qiyamah" (excerpts) by Mohammed Ali Ibn Zubair Ali Comments: Here it is said that a group of conceited claimants from among the Muslims will add fuel to the fire of war and cross the land and seas in the cause of Jihad. Volume 9, Book 88, Number 173: Narrated 'Abdullah:
The Prophet said, "I am your predecessor at the Lake-Fount (Kauthar) and some men amongst you will be brought to me, and when I will try to hand them some water, they will be pulled away from me by force whereupon I will say, 'O Lord, my companions!' Then the Almighty will say, 'You do not know what they did after you left, they introduced new things into the religion after you.'" Comments: The Prophet here says that Almighty told him that his religion will be twisted by some persons after his death. Volume 9, Book 88, Number 181: Narrated Zainab bint Jahsh:
The Prophet got up from his sleep with a flushed red face and said, "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. Woe to the Arabs, from the Great evil that is nearly approaching them. Today a gap has been made in the wall of Gog and Magog like this." (Sufyan illustrated by this forming the number 90 or 100 with his fingers.) It was asked, "Shall we be destroyed though there are righteous people among us?" The Prophet said, "Yes, if evil increased." Comments: Here the Prophet is quoted as warning that if the evil increased, the Arabs would be destroyed even if there are righteous people among them.
Yet again I am sure some of this guys comments are off, and I have no faith in nostradamus' quatrains, but the passages are interesting.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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Never read Islamic prophecies, very interesting. Thanks for sharing !
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: MAIA]
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alot of it is really specific It will be interesting to see if it plays out.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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blaze2 said: It will be interesting to see if it plays out.
I wouldn't count on it.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Basilides]
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HAHAHAHAHA
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Basilides]
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blaze2 said: It will be interesting to see if it plays out.
I wouldn't count on it.
I count on nothing execpt God.
And to those who laugh, I ask one question. Do you believe our civilization will never fall?
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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blaze2 said: And to those who laugh, I ask one question. Do you believe our civilization will never fall?
Of course it will fall or replaced by another. However, I place no value in religious texts or soothsaying frenchmen.
Any similarities to actual events will be purely coincidental.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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blaze2 said: It will be interesting to see if it plays out.
I wouldn't count on it.
I count on nothing execpt God.
And to those who laugh, I ask one question. Do you believe our civilization will never fall?
No. I believe our luck will run out in the face of a meteor
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Basilides]
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Basilides said: No. I believe our luck will run out in the face of a meteor
That's actually a very likely thing to happen. Most people just don't realize how dangerous a neighborhood the earth is floating around in.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Ekstaza]
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Its in all teh prochecies isnt it?
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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I don't believe in Prophecies (which seem to be a distraction of Past and Future). The Truth rests in the Nowness.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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blaze2 said: Its in all teh prochecies isnt it?
HUH???
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Ekstaza]
#5600803 - 05/07/06 11:35 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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a comet or meteor striking the earth, ekstaza.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
#5600829 - 05/07/06 11:53 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh
I'm fairly certain that such things would have been something truly mystical to ancient people. I'd be suprised if it didn't make it into some religious texts.
i.e. Cavedude - "Why is that rock smashing into the ground?"
Othercavedude - "Must be the work of GOD"
From there the rock just kept on rolling.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Ekstaza]
#5600859 - 05/07/06 12:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm sure it went something like that too, but what you just said doesnt disprove God. What would you say I wonder?
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
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Knowing what they knew, probably the same thing, however, mankind has made astonishing discoveries since then.
I truly believe that there is a logical, scientific explanation to everything, including god, if there is one.
Just because we don't understand something doesn't mean that we will never figure it out or that it must be supernatural.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Ekstaza]
#5606457 - 05/08/06 08:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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THere is a logical explanation of everything, but even still God is always a step ahead. Can you comprehend Infiniti? If so you are the first human. The Idea of God is so far beyond human thought that it in its very nature it is infinitely farther beyond any concievable future of humanity's science knowledge. THe idea of of infiniti is that there is always more always another difference that science has yet to explain, and it will always be that way. God can never be explained by science no matter how close it gets there will always be the leap of faith. That is the nature of God.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
#5606684 - 05/08/06 09:22 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The concept of infinity is not so hard to grasp. Short and simple: "There will always be and there always has been everything."
The particles that make up my being have always been in existence and will always be in existence. So are the particles that make up everything else in existence. There is no Alfa or Omega, no end of time, no in the beginning. The world of man may one day be nothing more than a piece of debris left floating indefinitely through space. Some tiny reminder of what once was. Time will continue its' march throughout the millennia.
I understand things in this way. I do not have to be burdened by worries of afterlife or end times. I know that I will end and time will continue, making no notice of my passing. It won't stop. It will continue on into INFINITY.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: Ekstaza]
#5608031 - 05/09/06 09:52 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Islamic would not recognize an Antichrist if it bit their heads off. Nor would the Chrisitian....
Fortunately these prophecies mean nothing to people outside the niche for which they were written....
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: eve69]
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eve69 said: The Islamic would not recognize an Antichrist if it bit their heads off. Nor would the Chrisitian....
Fortunately these prophecies mean nothing to people outside the niche for which they were written....
Yea, I've just seen a film yesterday with Michael York playing the antichrist. The film was about the judgement day, and all that Bible stuff. Of course the American catholics were the forces of god..
People assume that because they are followers of the Bible or Koran or whatever, that they are the good side in the story. Within the religious concepts, most people who think they serve the light, are actually the army under the antichrist, which is funny really when you think about it. Just like in Star Wars. The republic turned out to be the bad force, and the "evil" separatists turned out to be the ones fighting the hidden evil within the republic.
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: OldWoodSpecter]
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eve69 said: The Islamic would not recognize an Antichrist if it bit their heads off. Nor would the Chrisitian....
Fortunately these prophecies mean nothing to people outside the niche for which they were written....
Yea, I've just seen a film yesterday with Michael York playing the antichrist. The film was about the judgement day, and all that Bible stuff. Of course the American catholics were the forces of god..
People assume that because they are followers of the Bible or Koran or whatever, that they are the good side in the story. Within the religious concepts, most people who think they serve the light, are actually the army under the antichrist, which is funny really when you think about it. Just like in Star Wars. The republic turned out to be the bad force, and the "evil" separatists turned out to be the ones fighting the hidden evil within the republic.
They do mean something because every religion prophesized the same endtimes, THe big three were all the same basicly since all are based on the same people, but the Hindus, and Hopi prophecies describe the same event.
Everything you said is right, but yet again here is someone confusing the truth of God, from the truth of the church. I'm sure the arabs will be in the war, and I'm sure the christians will be on the other side. Jews somewhere in there, along with asia, fighting on teh side of the arabs. NEITHER SIDE WILL WIN. God will destroy them all.
"Those who kill with the sword, must die by the sword" Revelations.
The fact both sides are certain of their victory, well that is what Devil is best at. "The great deception"
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
#5612097 - 05/10/06 10:10 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea, you are right, according to the texts, neither side in war will be the gods side. Because the gods people will be taken in rapture. The remaining will be the ones who refuse god and accept the antichrist and they will fight amongst themselfs. The raptured, along with the resurrected dead would return together with christ to populate the new earth. .
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Re: Islamic Prophecy according to the Koran [Re: blaze2]
#5612479 - 05/10/06 12:20 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Interesting topic... thanks for posting this... gives me something to think about.
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