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OfflineJackal
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Should The Internet Be Policed?
    #1341658 - 02/27/03 11:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Let's face it, no matter how Liberal you are, there are sites on the Internet that will upset/offend you.

I consider myself easy going, but reading a recent article on suicide sites really got to me. Sites which encourage people to take their own lives are nothing but negative. Also sites which depict indecent/illegal pornography, gross images of death and other generally negative material. I think we could get by without this kind of material.

Obviousley this has to be looked at carefully; defining what is acceptable and what is not is probably the first step. Then there are International laws - pornographic images of young teens is acceptable in some Countries. How would the culprits be tracked down and punished? Also we don't want overkill - if the Internet was policed then a line would have to be drawn, this just goes back to defining what is acceptable!

Don't get me wrong, I'm all for free-speech and expression. But there are sick minds out there who produce sites available to all (including children). I for one don't want my children stumbling across pictures of mutilated bodies. The Human Race could get by fine without this shit!


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1341799 - 02/28/03 02:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

It's the last free media.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1341825 - 02/28/03 03:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Its not only the last free form of media, but depending on who you ask, its an art form.

Web designs are generally artists by trade.  If you ban someones "art" you're looking at banning alot of left wing folks. 

I don't think it should be policed, but it will sooner or later. :frown:

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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1342228 - 02/28/03 07:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1342361 - 02/28/03 08:57 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

NO!!!!!


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1342966 - 02/28/03 01:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I ran across images of dead bodies when I was 12, I've seen plenty of porn, both standard and midget at a very young age. I came out perfectly fine. I'm not morally or socially deviant. Also, you don't realize that kids all over the world see dead bodies in real life. We Americans are just extremely sheltered to the point of wanting to be in denial of real things that exist out there. I say freedom of expression and freedom of speech are more important than almost anything else. I'm Jewish, but I would not even deny a Neo Nazi the right to have his own website as long as he didn't act on any of his hateful ideas.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1343046 - 02/28/03 02:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I feel no it should not at all.........i think the 'filters' work fine if you have kids you're protecting.........but still, yet, it all comes down to(for the most part)how you raise your kids(environment/teachings)....if they are taught what is truly right and wrong, and have morals then they wont be where they shouldnt be(web wise and in life)...either way, some people are just twisted to begin with....certainly cant blame that on the internet and thus be policing it........

we all need to charish and protect our last form of 'free worldwide media'


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1344051 - 02/28/03 11:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Seeing how technology is the most important means of increasing economic growth, no fucking way. To limit one's technological growth is devastating. Computer science and communication advancement is the most important achievements we are making. Shrink the world down to a controllable size through the information highway. Capitalism flourishes with the open market and computer/communications technology will do the same.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: CuriousByN8ure]
    #1426741 - 04/03/03 06:07 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

"Seeing how technology is the most important means of increasing economic growth, no fucking way. To limit one's technological growth is devastating."

Yeah, shutting down child porn and gratuitous images of death would be a real damper on the economy. *rolls eyes*

Also, just because someone has seen everything at a young age and "turned out fine" doesn't mean that it's something that should happen. Consider: there have been people who have survived falls at terminal velocity. Does that mean that you should jump out of a plane without a parachute? No.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1428987 - 04/04/03 04:00 PM (14 years, 26 days ago)

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But there are sick minds out there who produce sites available to all (including children).




I hear this a lot from parents that don't want their children exposed to the horrors that can be found on the internet. I don't have children and it is not my job to protect other people's children. Parents need to take the time to raise their children instead of turning them into zombies with TV, video games, and the internet.

I read a good sig line once... something close to: The internet treats censorship like damage and simply routes around it.



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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Seuss]
    #1429322 - 04/04/03 06:06 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

There will always be viewpoints that turn your stomach to support, but lets face it when you allow these sites to be attacked how far down the road are the sites that you feel there is nothing wrong with. There is always someone more conservative than you trying to weaken our first amendment rights. We must support all the sites you spoke of to protect the rights for everyone.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: ben657681]
    #1429496 - 04/04/03 06:52 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

well your ideas of "negative" sites that should be closed aren't really open-minded. the shroomery is probably a negative site to many people. some people like looking at dead bodies (not me) and just because it doesn't appeal to you, doesn't mean it should be shut down. the internet is a great thing. it has everything you could ever possibly want despite the negatives. it has information that every type of person enjoys. honestly, I don't think it could ever be policed. I'm sure an "undernet" would form.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: aYs]
    #1429502 - 04/04/03 06:55 PM (14 years, 25 days ago)

[addition]

if you think about it, the internet isn't really anything... it's a bunch of computers connected together. there isn't a main database or control system for it. it's really interesting if you think about it. how it can all come together like this.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: aYs]
    #1431564 - 04/05/03 04:15 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

Much like a mycelial network.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: Jackal]
    #1431593 - 04/05/03 04:40 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I think the line should be drawn (as with anything) at the point where someone is either hurt by an internet site, or has their rights infringed by an internet site. Know what I mean?

I have a lot against "shock sites" like ones that show dead people and stuff like that.

BUT, does the mere existence of these sites hurt me or interfere with my life in any way? Not that I know of.

Being offended my something/someone is not the same as being hurt. I could say that babies offend me, but that doesn't mean we should get rid of them  :smirk:

However. If a site does something to hurt someone, directly or indirectly, it should be taken down.

Sites condoning or encouraging suicide are just plain stupid. They should be illegal. You never know who might look at them and what state of mind that person might be in.

Natural Law man, it's the way to go.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: trendal]
    #1432608 - 04/06/03 12:32 AM (14 years, 24 days ago)

The internet is a network between people. What gives the gov't the right to intervene in this network? What gives them the right to make laws and enforce them? Sure, there are those few illegal kiddy porn sites, but even though this is a network between people, those people still fall under the laws of the US, as long as they live in the US, and they are prosecuted. Sites on the internet are free will. If you go there, and do something stupid, it shouldn't be anyone else's fault but your own. The reason they want laws is because they want as much control over communication as possible. Anyone read up on the bills introduced into congress to ban all encryption and set computer development back a decade? I'll post a link on that if I find it.


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: TinMan]
    #1433619 - 04/06/03 04:18 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

One of the most compelling arguments I have heard about the legalisation of drugs can also be applied to the "Should the internet be policed?" debate. That argument is: "If we aren't mature/intelligent/reponsible enough to deal with this stuff, then who is?".



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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: aYs]
    #1437723 - 04/07/03 11:51 PM (14 years, 22 days ago)

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honestly, I don't think it could ever be policed. I'm sure an "undernet" would form.




Not only that, the internet would be connected to that "undernet".  It is already in development, called FreeNet. 

The only way to police the internet is through some kind of massive worldwide dictatorship controlling all content and activity. 

Swallow your ego and let the internet evolve.  :cool:
 


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Re: Should The Internet Be Policed? [Re: SBTlauien]
    #1441033 - 04/09/03 12:15 AM (14 years, 21 days ago)

You gotta remember, the internet is just that, a public network. No one is asking you to partake in this network. You are not being forced to load up that hot little 12yr on your screen.

Some countries are into that stuff, and I doubt they're about to listen what US citizens want. If you want policing, do it on your end.


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