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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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uh-oh, they are ganging up on me now. :shocked:


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: fadedpinkwings]
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Nah, i just thought his responce was hilarious! :smile:


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: GazzBut]
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That said, there is no peaceful solution to removing saddam
In my mind that statement implies a huge lack of vision, compassion and intelligence.


Please, oh wise one, inform me with you're infinite knowledge, compassion, and intelligence, how would one peacefully remove Saddam???
There is no way that works, otherwise we would be doing it. War is not the first choice of the US, it's the last.

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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Please, oh wise one, inform me with you're infinite knowledge, compassion, and intelligence, how would one peacefully remove Saddam???


Dont give him power and weapons in the first place then change your mind when its convenient.

Assuming he "needs" to be removed.... :smirk:


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: GazzBut]
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The US has the best precision bombering system in the world, we would avoid civilian casualities better than anyone else.



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Thousands of innocent Iraqis will die in what will be the most brutal bombing campaign in the history of mankind.



do you know any history??? ever heard of WWII??? the bombing tactics used then were designed to wipe out whole cities, not single buildings. That's much less brutal eh??
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You are unable to see these facts. You merely spout the rhetoric you are fed through the media.


Those aren't facts. My father was an apache pilot in the first gulf war and is now an instructor, my cousin is a ranger, my stepcousin is in the airforce, my uncle was a ranger and is now an instructor, my grandfather was a bomber pilot in the Korean war and is now a published military historian, specifically concentrating on the history of air warfare. I spout facts from the mouths of five people who have actually seen combat, not rhetoric from the media. But you would know better than them wouldn't you??

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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Dont give him power and weapons in the first place then change your mind when its convenient.
Assuming he "needs" to be removed....


basically every country in the UN agrees that Saddam needs to be removed from power not only for the saftey of the iraqi people, but for the safety of the region as a whole.
Also, there seems to be a general misconception around here that we somehow had something to do with Saddam's rise to power. This is absolutely false, he rose to power on his own through assasination, and mass murder of anyone who opposed him. We did give him weapons after he came to power, but we were hardly the only country that did that. People in the world blame the US for way too much.

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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basically every country in the UN agrees that Saddam needs to be removed from power not only for the saftey of the iraqi people, but for the safety of the region as a whole.


Oh you mean the UN support after america has threatened and bullied. Safety of iraqi people?! region as a whole?
Do you still think this war is about the liberation of iraqis and the elimination of WMD?
You MUST be american...


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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Oh you mean the UN support after america has threatened and bullied.


how has america threatened and bullied? It's called politics. Look what France is doing. They're saying we won't let you into the EU if you don't agree with us. Is that bullying?
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Safety of iraqi people?! region as a whole?
Do you still think this war is about the liberation of iraqis and the elimination of WMD?



Saddam is a very real threat to all of iraq's neighbors, if you don't think that, you must be incredibly misinformed. Ask the Kuwaitis how they feel about iraq. It's real easy for you candians who are thousands of miles away from the situation to say "saddam is not a threat, that's ridiculous," but how would you feel if iraq was your neighbor?
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You MUST be american...


damn straight, proud of it to.

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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I knew you were american cus the ONLY people i've heard from that share your views are....other americans!....
Ain't that strange eh?


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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or iraqis

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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How can you speak for iraqis?
Your american.


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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i've heard these views from many iraqi exiles

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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Well i lived in the UAE for a year and visited oman on quite a few occasions. I cant imagine ANY middle east country wanting america to come "liberate" them from an evil dictator. People aren't as unhappy as the media makes them out to be, and while you've heard stories from iraqis, i've lived in a middle east country and have observed thier way of life. Honestly i think they should change, but that is not my descision nor americas to make......only thiers!


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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Honestly i think they should change, but that is not my descision nor americas to make......only thiers!


and if they don't have the ability to liberate themselves? should we just sit by??
the kurds certainly made the decision, and how are we to know how the iraqi's feel about saddam's rule if they are killed for speaking out?? are we to assume they like this??

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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What makes you think your help is wanted?....ah nevermind.....

Its not about liberating iraq and that clear!


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: flow]
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I wish Osama Bin Laden would come save us from our Tyrannical government.

Help us Osama, we love you!


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Azmodeus]
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the kurds asked the US for help in eliminating Saddam. They represent about a third of the iraqi people and are really the only iraqis that are somewhat free to speak out. Is that not enough proof that they want help??
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Its not about liberating iraq and that clear!


it's not ONLY about liberating iraq, but to say this is not one of the goals of the US is absurd. Just as absurd as saying the war is ONLY about oil.

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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: fadedpinkwings]
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Are you upset that you are n ot free to blow people up?

No, I'm not upset, its just that you were spouting off your freedom like you were free to do anything you wish, I gave you some examples of things you are not free to do.


T hat is probably the dumbest thing i have ever seen you post.

Coming from you, I'm pleased you found my post to be dumb.....




Oh, and how come you didn't answer my question of why you aren't in the military right now.


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: Skikid16]
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Are you upset that you are n ot free to blow people up?

No, I'm not upset, its just that you were spouting off your freedom like you were free to do anything you wish, I gave you some examples of things you are not free to do.







I am. I do not wish to blow people up.

If they need me, I will go.I promise.


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Re: Leave Iraq Alone. No war for oil! [Re: fadedpinkwings]
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Why do they have to need you, why can't you go by your own volition?


Does anyone else smell tuna?


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