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The French
    #1296569 - 02/10/03 01:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1296573 - 02/10/03 01:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So they're wimps for refusing to invade another country?


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Re: The French [Re: silversoul7]
    #1296581 - 02/10/03 01:47 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

No, for not agreeing to help a fellow Nato member.


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1296595 - 02/10/03 01:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Funny. I didn't know another NATO country was in danger from another country. I know of one that has plans to invade another country, but I don't know of any that are being invaded.


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1296596 - 02/10/03 01:50 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

In this particular issue, I deeply respect their choice.


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Re: The French [Re: silversoul7]
    #1296604 - 02/10/03 01:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Turkey asked for their pledge, they refused despite treaties.

In my eye, that makes them even bigger assholes than I previously believed.


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1296613 - 02/10/03 01:54 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Haha.


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Re: The French [Re: Anonymous]
    #1296622 - 02/10/03 01:56 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Haha what?


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1296641 - 02/10/03 02:00 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Funny picture :laugh:


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1297310 - 02/10/03 05:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

i respect them for not supporting bush's war. so what if we're a fellow nato member? are we being attacked by iraq? what if france wanted to invade morocco? would we be pussies for not helping them?

also... this business about the french being pussies for getting beat in WWII... it's really absurd. they got blitzed by a military juggernaut. they never had a chance. most of the rest of europe faired about as well as they did, and it was only due to the sheer power of the combined US and soviet forces that the nazis were narrowly defeated.


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Re: The French [Re: ]
    #1297403 - 02/10/03 05:46 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

so what if we're a fellow nato member? are we being attacked by iraq?


I think Luv was referring to France not backing the move to militarily back Turkey in the event of a war.


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Re: The French [Re: Skikid16]
    #1297472 - 02/10/03 06:13 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I think Luv was referring to France not backing the move to militarily back Turkey in the event of a war.

Nope NATO is a defense aliance. France, Germany, and Belgium are stating that they are not required to provide defense for Turkey if a war should break out in that region. Turkey would only call on NATO if they were attacked.


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Re: The French [Re: ehud]
    #1297480 - 02/10/03 06:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Isn't that what I said but in different words?


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298019 - 02/10/03 10:23 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

lol so america is trying to scape goat france for not being sheep?

Wish some of you war mongers would join up :smile: thin the gene pool a bit :smile:


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Re: The French [Re: G a n j a]
    #1298064 - 02/10/03 11:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

And I wish you were smart enough to know the difference between a war monger and someone who believes countries should honor their treaties.

You DO realize that there is a difference don't you?


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298066 - 02/10/03 11:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hahahhahahahahahaha


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298083 - 02/10/03 11:15 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This i of course realise as i wasnt calling the french war mongers but you :smile:
as you obviously feel france should bomb some people too so in my book that makes you a war monger so please sign up and bomb at will.saddly you may just be a grunt in the desert but you could throw granades :smile:


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298089 - 02/10/03 11:17 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

So you feel even if you disagree with something because you signed a treaty long ago you should be forced to help kill people?i would think even treaties should stop around the bombing countrys children mark?do you not?


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Re: The French [Re: G a n j a]
    #1298103 - 02/10/03 11:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

First while you are obviously a fool, I'm not now, nor have I ever been a war monger.

Secondly, if a country doesn't want to honor a treaty, it should formally withdraw from the treaty. Not just pay it lip service.

Third, it's a DEFENSE treaty. Turkey was asking France to honor a defense treaty, not for help INVADING a country.

Still not seeing the difference? Or are you French?


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Re: The French [Re: luvdemshrooms]
    #1298118 - 02/10/03 11:43 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

The French are actually saying they do not wish to supply any means of defence for Turkey yet. They are not refusing outright. I can understand their posistion as they are trying to encourage diplomatic means to end the crisis in Iraq and arming one of Iraq's neighbours does not really help their cause.

However, I dont believe that those of us who are truly opposed to the war should be praising the French or the Germans. Basically, I believe they want to have as much say in a post Sadaam Iraq as possible. If the US do the main of the invading and the UK do the main of the peace keeping guess who is going to have the most control over what happens there afterwards? The plight of the Iraqi people is not high on the French/German agenda. They are acting out of self interest the same as the UK and the US.


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