Devlish2 said:

pussies

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Rocker232 said:

HeadTripVertigo said:

well it seems most kids are under the impression that metal is only brutal when it's fast and heavy and loud.  That band has some songs that are almost exhausting after they're through based on the build up of backup instruments and atmosphere.  that's why black metal and it's ilk have the potential for much more than death metal in general effect, most of them rely on creating an atmosphere along with the music.  most stuff you posted is just right in your face and ends up fairly one dimensional because that's all it offers.

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99% of Black Metal sounds the same. You can do much more with Death Metal.

For example Abigail Williams IMO put out an album that isn't strictly Black Metal but is hands down better than anything in the genre.

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HeadTripVertigo said:

well cheese is all cheese, some's processed, some's not, some's white some's yellow.  but the important part is there's good and bad, in varying degrees.  you seem to like kraft singles.

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twighead said:

I knew there was a black metal elitist hiding somewhere around the shroomery

"sure a lot of black metal sounds the same, but so does a lot of jazz, classical, whatever."

Maybe to untrained ears... but the difference here is they AREN'T .... not in the same way two black metal songs often use the exact same chords and chord progressions with slightly... but likely not different picking rhythms.

BTBAM is infinitely more talented than 99.9% of black metal bands in composition, and technicality.. sorry

And I do love me some black metals.

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twighead said:

I knew there was a black metal elitist hiding somewhere around the shroomery

"sure a lot of black metal sounds the same, but so does a lot of jazz, classical, whatever."

Maybe to untrained ears... but the difference here is they AREN'T .... not in the same way two black metal songs often use the exact same chords and chord progressions with slightly... but likely not different picking rhythms.

BTBAM is infinitely more talented than 99.9% of black metal bands in composition, and technicality.. sorry

And I do love me some black metals.

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HeadTripVertigo said:

twighead said:

I knew there was a black metal elitist hiding somewhere around the shroomery

"sure a lot of black metal sounds the same, but so does a lot of jazz, classical, whatever."

Maybe to untrained ears... but the difference here is they AREN'T .... not in the same way two black metal songs often use the exact same chords and chord progressions with slightly... but likely not different picking rhythms.

BTBAM is infinitely more talented than 99.9% of black metal bands in composition, and technicality.. sorry

And I do love me some black metals.

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you're talking about extremely traditional black metal sounding similar.  it does.  if you listen to mayhem and darkthrone and emperor, all their early stuff sounds fairly similar because they all lived in the same area and had a shared idea of what they were trying to create. 
I'm not necessarily talking about traditional black metal from back in the day.  BTBAM are talented, I'll give them that, but it's all just riffs.  there's no real direction to most of their stuff.  it's just there, loudm fast, and not very interesting.  any production is boring as fuck.

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Fair enough - I'll respect your opinion
Bands like Agalloch, Ulver, etc. do create a very powerful atmosphere.

Shroomism said:

It's all a matter of preference.
You grow up with guys in metal... eventually they all move to either death or black metal for some reason. Different tastes.
I grew up with a bunch of black metal heads but I'm as death metal as ever.
I have a lot of respect for a lot of black metal bands, but they just don't really do it for me on the whole.
Death metal is just so much more brutal for me. Not that I don't love me some quality Black Metal

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Yeah this is pretty much it man