ZippoZ said:

Aww pris, you're making me blush.
so, i based my math on the fact that the usa was running at a 9.3% unemployment rate, and assumed that 25% would be 2.325% bringing us to a 6.975% unemployment rate. I don't know where you get the figure of a 4% unemployment rate.

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imagine how much our economy would rebound if Americas un-employment numbers suddenly dropped 6.975%
that would cause a ripple that might just cause a rebound for the entire fucking world economy.

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Regardless, there are jobs available out there, im not saying that its not hard. but there are infact jobs, america has not come to some grinding halt. And these jobs could be filled by qualified people currently sitting on their ass collecting un-employment.

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Id be willing to bet the farm on it, if you cut these peoples un-employment benefits. straight up stopped them, they would find a job.

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as a matter of fact, i recall a history teacher of mine telling the class about a previous president who straight up cut off all benefits for........ well, i cant remember what it exactly was, but his theory was that there were too many fakers, and that to correctly distribute funds, the whole system had to be started over again.

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ZippoZ said:

imagine how much our economy would rebound if Americas un-employment numbers suddenly dropped 6.975%

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And of the increased consumption of dwindling natural resources that such a drop in unemployment would entail?

Dwindlling resources that has forced us to explore in ever more dangerous environs.look no further than the GULF for where this wastefulnes/employment for the sake of it,has led us,the brink of absolute global cat-fukin-tastrophy!

more shiney shit to fill shelves in the shiney shit shops destined for landfill when the morons that bought into some snakeoil salesmans BS that they needed this crap!No thanks.

I'll continue with my aim of working no more than half my given working life,sucking on your teet for the rest.Whilst LOL'ing in the face of you workethicatics.

"think about it" FO.

ZippoZ said:

You are what is fucking this country up. i understand un-employment is there, for those of you in between jobs. but some of you lazy fuckers are just sitting on it, not looking for jobs, milking the government and sapping the economy.

I see this shit every day, and i cant stand it.

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Prisoner#1 said:

ZippoZ said:

dont get me wrong, i understand that it is a legitimate program, and people do legitimately have issues finding jobs. But i would be willing to bet the farm that 25%  of all people on unemployment are on some straight bullshit.

imagine how much our economy would rebound if Americas un-employment numbers suddenly dropped 6.975%
that would cause a ripple that might just cause a rebound for the entire fucking world economy.

think about it.

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this has to be some of the dumbest shit you've ever come up with, who's
going to pull 20 million jobs out of their ass so we can have that 4%
unemployment rate, Obama promised us job creation, the only jobs he's
created are for his cabinet and some temp jobs for the census

there's 30 million currently collecting unemployment, are you trying to
say that 7 million people are scamming, what about the other 50 million
that are out of work and not collecting, you figure they're scamming too?

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paducahovoids said:

Guess what? Employers pay for unemployment, so if you think it's hurting the government you are wrong. I worked my balls off steadily for 10 years so ya'll could pump out 3 kids a peice and get a welfare check that I paid for, live in a hud house that I paid for and food stamps that I paid for. Meanwhile they  just say "I don't know who the daddy is" So the guy don't have to pay child support. I've watched the government hand shit out to blacks, mexicans, retards and pregnant women my whole life. I paid 30% in taxes for 10 years That's $90,000 worth of foodstamps and welfare I've paid, so if you're mad I drew unemployment this year if you wanna help the economy, get all the people out of the hud buildings and start drug testing welfare recipients. They get the foodstamps and trade them off 2 for 1 for cash and buy beer or drugs instead of feeding their kids

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boredcertified said:

Get a job you hate, to buy shit you do not need????
OP, indeed this thread IS bullshit.
Im callin you out.
I worked at least fourty, if not fifty hours per week from sixteen till I saw the light.
I was a loan officer making great money, snorting giant piles of coke and drinking good booze.
In my late twenties I just got fed up, quit.
I moved to the woods.
Yup I  collect ue, I am college educated, skillfull and intelligent. I produce my own food, and consume very little "stuff".  I get 300 a week from the guvment.
I take care of the farm, my 8 month old son, and menial referbishing of my old mountain cottage and land.
Now.... lets break this down
childcare - 150 per week
food from garden - 100 per week
gas to drive to work - 30 per week
paying contractors/landscapers/electricians ungodly.
So, in order for me to make this feasible to find work, I would either need to make ALOT of money, or work from home, which I do.  I sell edibles to resturaunts and farm markets, and fresh, free range chickens and eggs.
I figure all the money my family and I have contributed to the cause we derserve something other than broken promies and fat getting fatter.  So yes, I take thier money, as does a close friend who was in the upper 1% income bracket for ten or so years.  He paid six figure income tax each year, he relaxes.
Besides the fact that I garden organicly, i raise chixkens for eggs n meat, I get to raise my own son.
Your logic, as well as that of others is flawed.
Again, go to a low paying job I hate so I can buy shit I do not need, not see my family, eat garbage food and burn up natural resources so i can go into debt buying shit i do not need.
Oh thanks for reminding me, I need to call my UE in while i sit in a bath smoking 250 and drinking beer with the simpsons on
:p
oh yea, if you are sick of "lazy amerikans"
The simple solution is to move to another country, I am sure you can find one where everyone will share your personal sentiments all the time.
Love it or leave it as the hill folk say.

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RogerRabbit said:

People, the fact is that the US economy has shed 8 million jobs in the last 10 years.  That's a total of 8 million FEWER jobs available, and that number includes the walmart and mc donalds jobs that have opened as manufacturing and high tech jobs have gone elsewhere.

Those of you blaming people who are out of work are not doing the math.

What's more, welfare moms with lots of kids and an absent dad may make for good press, but it's a small fraction of actual welfare.  The biggest welfare recipients are large corporations who pay zero in taxes because they have an offshore mailbox.  In addition, guess who paid all these manufacturing companies to ship their factories and equipment to China?  Yup, the American taxpayers.  They got to write off the entire cost of shutting down factories(JOBS) in the US and the costs of setting them back up again in China where workers make about 10% of what the greeter at walmart makes.  However, the products they make for a fraction of the cost still sell for full market value, so the rest of us don't save any money at all from the made-in-china crap, but the company makes huge profits.

Before you guys keep blaming out of work people in the US, take a look in your own tool chests, electronics, and the car in your driveway.  If they weren't made in the US, you're the source of the problem, not the solution, so quit your damned bitching.
RR

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nice post RR. Seriously how hard is this stuff to understand.

ZippoZ said:

once again, ive got nothing against people legitimately collecting unemployment....

but seriously, there are jobs available.

also, there are millions of ways that anyone here in America can go make a buck. go push a lawn mower, go  pan for gold(mining law of 1872), take advantage of the free land the government will give you if you just farm it. (desert land entry act).

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But everyone who is on unemployment paid in to receive those benefits.

You want to know the damn honest truth at why people rather sit on unemployment than find a shitty low end job? Because they get paid more from UE than they would from the shitty job.

I paid in, I'll fucking take I was deserve!

fin.

ZippoZ said:

but seriously, there are jobs available.

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there are millions of ways that anyone here in America can go make a buck. go push a lawn mower

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go  pan for gold(mining law of 1872)

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take advantage of the free land the government will give you if you just farm it. (desert land entry act).

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ZippoZ said:

actually, the mining law of 1872 is still in full force.

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i havent done a DLE (you can only do one in your lifetime, and i want some really good land) but its available in all 11 western states, and the prices you have to pay upon completion of your entry, were set in the late 1800's its like a dollar an acre, a quarter up front, and 75 cents upon completion.

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