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Re: HPPD questions... [Re: Oldgregg]
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You will have a relapse if you start taking psychedelic drugs again, once in a great while like three months apart may not excarberate the problem, but you will always run the risk.

I got some HPPD also from the fuckin RC's and DMT its mild making things breath the earth heave and wave certian textures move others dont minor fractal patterns in the dark, weed always intensefies it a ton to the point where weed has become kinda psychedelic for me if I smoke a ton

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Re: HPPD questions... *DELETED* [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
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Re: HPPD questions... [Re: Oldgregg]
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HPPD hasn't really bothered me yet, even though thinking there are horses in my window for a split second can be disconcerting at times. :lol::crazy:


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Re: HPPD questions... [Re: twighead]
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man i don't get what people bitch about, throwing this HPPD thing around.

i'm not trolling i'm just stating..

i've taken loads and LOADS of psychedelics with no ill effect..

sounds like pussy shit to me.


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Re: HPPD questions... [Re: Oldgregg]
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Oldgregg said:
I hear you on the weed part, i wish i could smoke like i used to but i feel like a start tripping when i do it now...

do you think alcohol would be something i could do to keep me busy while i lay off the hard drugs?



definately man alcohol kills all signs of HPPD for me not so sure about you but it def wont make it any worse then it is when your sober.

You ever get days where it gets considerably worse? once in a great while mine starts acting up and almost everything in my direct field of vision will move slither or waver slightly its very annoying when it gets like that, its tolerable when its at the usual levels or when im high, not at all tolerable on the bad days. I used to think it was kinda cool you know like tripping without having to take drugs that was 8 months ago its still the same and im getting sick of it.

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Re: HPPD questions... [Re: AcidDropper420]
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AcidDropper420 said:
man i don't get what people bitch about, throwing this HPPD thing around.

i'm not trolling i'm just stating..

i've taken loads and LOADS of psychedelics with no ill effect..

sounds like pussy shit to me.



everyone's different :shrug: its not "pussy shit" kinda annoying and theres no way to shut it off or make it go away and no way to stop yourself from getting it if your susceptible other then not using psych drugs

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Re: HPPD questions... *DELETED* [Re: AcidDropper420]
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more HPPD questions [Re: Oldgregg]
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Hello.  I am very experienced with mushrooms, and have taken them maybe 40 or 50 times over the past 9 years or so.  Aside from the one bad trip I had when I was 14, I have experienced nothing but positive, spiritual, life-changing experiences.  A couple months ago I started experimenting with DMT, and aside from feeling a little off for a few days after doing it, I experienced no negative effects from that either.

While I was trying to talk my step-brother into trying some, he brought up the topic of excitotoxicity, which got me researching a bunch of blogs online.  I came upon numerous horrible experiences, one of which really started to freak me out.  A guy who had just started using DMT said he was experiencing severe depersonalization and that nothing seemed to help him except for antipsychotic medications.  I started reading more people's bad experiences, and then starting reading threads about HPPD.

As soon as I read all of this stuff about DP/DR and HPPD, I started thinking that I had it.  I realized that I felt somewhat depersonalized from my recent DMT trips, and I started focusing on everything and realizing that it looked a little different.  Although I do not have a severe anxiety problem, I have definitely had an underlying anxiety that arises once in a while throughout my life.  For the past few weeks, I was really freaking out thinking that I had given myself brain damage or chemically changed my brain permanantly.  I thought that maybe I had finally made myself lose my mind and that I'd never be the same, and that maybe I would be battling HPPD for the rest of my life.

A few days ago, I tried some LSD for the first time, but it didn't work beyond giving me a slight afterglow feeling.  I had been holding onto it for a while so I am pretty sure it just went bad.  Anyway, after taking it and going on a long kayak trip for 9 hours, I realized that everything actually looks completely normal, and that I had been freaking myself out with an anxiety attack for weeks.  I had convinced myself that I had HPPD, but I am pretty sure it was just an anxiety attack / hypochondriasis.

I have always loved mushrooms and they have changed my life for the better, but the truth is now I am legitimately afraid of getting HPPD.  I don't know if this means I should refrain from tripping until I am no longer concerned with it, or what.  Is it possible that most of these people with their HPPD horror stories are just convincing themselves that they have it by letting their anxiety overcome them, and forcing themselves to have visuals by focusing on things and trying to figure out if they look different?  I love mushrooms and don't want to be afraid to take them anymore, but at this point HPPD is a legitimate concern for me.

Anybody have any advice?  Keep in mind that when I never even knew that HPPD existed, I had no reason to worry about it and every trip has only improved the quality of my life.  I always only feel significantly better for weeks after I trip.  Once I found out about HPPD, however, it sparked an anxiety attack that has made me hesitant to trip ever since.  I don't want to stop tripping forever, but I am afraid of permanantly changing my brain chemistry after reading all of these people's horror stories.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: shrizzies]
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In addition, I should mention that during this whole time weed worsened it.  However, I feel that weed often times worsens anxiety because of the paranoia effects it can have.  Perhaps the reason that weed worsens HPPD is only because it increases anxiety and paranoia, coupled with the fact that it is somewhat of a mild hallucinogen itself?  Additionally, do people assume they have HPPD when in fact they may just be experiencing the residual effects of the drugs?

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: shrizzies]
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HPPD for many is so subtle that it is not considered a bad thing.

I consider my HPPD a mild alter in my reality that is simply a reminder for all of the lessons I have gained from my psychedelic experiences.

If you do have HPPD and it is only so mild that it does not bother, or is mild enough that you don't even notice it, then I wouldn't worry about it.


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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: Acaterpillar]
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A final note: during the the past weeks when I was wondering if I had it, I realized that a lot of the visual abnormalities I was noticing were actually just things that I was more aware of than normal that have always existed in my perception since I was little.  For example, the way things move in relation to one another or in relation to me as I am moving.  Or the glint of sunlight off of a spider web in the corner of my eye, or the increased awareness of floaters as I looked at the sky, or the graininess of the air, which is something I remember taking note of when I was in preschool.  Maybe in a lot of cases HPPD is just an increased awareness of things which are normally ignored?  I feel that I am not ready to call it quits from hallicunogens for the rest of my life because there is more to be learned, but the whole HPPD scare definitely made me consider it, which is extremely unlike me.

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: shrizzies]
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Heightened awareness of things you used to notice as a child, but have learned to ignore. Yes! That sounds plausible.

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: Brugman]
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Either you are a hypochondriac...or you are a hypochodriac.

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: Oldgregg]
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seriously, this 'HPPD' shit is the noobiest, custiest, weak-mindedest shit of all time.

it's a psychosomatic manifestation. realize this and you'll see that 'HPPD' is just a negative connotation you assign to otherwise neutral visual phenomena. if you had never heard of 'HPPD', if the meme had never entered your mind, would you be making the negative association with the visual phenomena? No. It would simply be understood for what it is without the memetic conditioning, fluctuations in sense perception that are of no detriment.

your mind has been infected by the medical establishment's HPPD propaganda meme, rid yourself of it.


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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: greenspectral]
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So butthole gazing in other words

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: XDS]
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Somewhere around my 15th LSD experience I had an intense visual that involved a vibrant halo to emit from all street lights and encompassing that halo was a vibrant line that almost resembled some kind of neon light. It's hard to describe clearly because it's fairly intricate but it is odd enough that when I first saw it I was blown away.

I now still have that visual just as intensely whether high, drunk, or sober. I'm pretty damn sure I never perceived street lights to have such bizarre halos around them before; so I don't know about you guys, but I would call that HPPD. :crankey:


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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: Acaterpillar]
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I don't have HPPD but one time I tripped on acid, woke up the next day and half way on my drive to school every stop light, street light, brake lights and etc. had rainbows shooting out of it.  I drove fine but damn that was annoying and somewhat scary.

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Re: more HPPD questions [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH said:
I don't have HPPD but one time I tripped on acid, woke up the next day and half way on my drive to school every stop light, street light, brake lights and etc. had rainbows shooting out of it.  I drove fine but damn that was annoying and somewhat scary.



I guess that would be kind of a good way to describe what I see. Rainbows shooting out of street lights.


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