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Invisibled1giPhux
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Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's.
    #1239677 - 01/22/03 10:54 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, i have read pretty much everything i can find on cultivating and what not, but i still have some questions on things im confused about.

1. Covering jars with tinfoil work good?
2. At what stages do i need to keep the mycelium (sp?) or shrooms at a very high humidity.. Is this only during innoculation, or is it all the way from innoculation to fruiting?

3. If i get 2 big tupperware containers and i get a "mist maker" and put one small tupperware inside another with the mist maker on the bottom with water, will this create enough humidity, or will it not work?

3b. If i have one big tupperware thing (one the squre ones), and put a smaller like bucket with a mist maker in it in the middle of the cakes, will this work to keep the humidity up or will it cause too much "drip"

4. What is the difference between temperature and humidity? If i just have a mist makes will that increase the temp or will i need a heater too?

Thank you so much! I hope to grow soon!


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239693 - 01/22/03 11:01 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

1. Read the FAQ

2. Read the FAQ again

3 and 3b. Whats a "mist maker"?

4. Duuuude, common! thats like 1st or 2nd grade stuff!


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239715 - 01/22/03 11:09 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Picture of Question 3



Picture of Question 3b




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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239721 - 01/22/03 11:11 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

I read the faq about a million times along with everyguide, dont get me wrong, im just confused and want answers to soms simple questions, if its that easy, can you just answer it for me and not call me dumb.

Oh and mist maker is something you submerge in water, plug in and it creates a mist, they are used for terrariums and for looks in ponds and gardens and shit.


Edited by d1giPhux (01/22/03 11:13 AM)


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239772 - 01/22/03 11:28 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

1. Yes

2. You want some humidity during incubation to fruiting...you don't want dry heat drying up your jars.

3. No

3b. Yes if you are talking about an air bubbler.

4. Humidity is the amount of moisture in the air. Temperature is how warm it is.
A mist maker won't increase the temperature.


Some reading for you to do :

PF TEK

FAQ

Ultimate Mycodirectory v4.0

good luck!


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239777 - 01/22/03 11:28 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

>1. Covering jars with tinfoil work good?

I do it all the time. No contams yet.

>2. At what stages do i need to keep the mycelium (sp?) or shrooms at a very high humidity.. Is this only during innoculation, or is it all the way from innoculation to fruiting?

If you prepare your jars correctly, you won't have to worry about humidity during incubation. If you are fruiting cakes, you'll want your humidity to be very high (i.e. 95% - 100%).

About your setup: judging by the diagram, I don't think that would work as I don't see how the humid air would make it's way into the top compartment. Instead, line the bottom of your tub with an inch of perlite, and a 1/2 inch of water.

Humidity has to do with the amount of moisture in the air, where as temperature has to do with the speed that the air molecules are moving at. Faster = Warmer, Slower = Colder.


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239790 - 01/22/03 11:35 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Awsome, thank you for the kind replys. So what temp should i keep my cakes at throughout the process?


Edited by d1giPhux (01/22/03 11:36 AM)


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239799 - 01/22/03 11:37 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

82 is optimal (IMO) for incubation, mid 70's for fruiting.


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1239812 - 01/22/03 11:41 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, so i should use perlite for the humidity, got that down, but what can i use to keep the temp up that high? Would the EZ-incubator do the trick (two tupperware things inside eachother with aquarium heater underneath)?


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1239824 - 01/22/03 11:45 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Does the trick for me  :smile: 


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1239832 - 01/22/03 11:47 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

>2. You want some humidity during incubation to fruiting...you don't want dry heat drying up your jars.

Don?t forget the part where the highest humidity is needed, the fruiting.


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Anno]
    #1239863 - 01/22/03 11:58 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

How important is humidity during incubation?


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Anno]
    #1239864 - 01/22/03 11:58 AM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

>2. You want some humidity during incubation to fruiting...you don't want dry heat drying up your jars.

Don?t forget the part where the highest humidity is needed, the fruiting.




True...I just didn't word it very well.

I just was trying to express that some humidity is needed during incubation also...or dry heat would dry out the jars.

I always have my highest humidity during fruiting.
Cakes always very high humidity.
Casings I alway have high humidity til I get pins...then I drop the humidity down.



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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.



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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Roadkill]
    #1239879 - 01/22/03 12:03 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

How do you go about keeping moisture build up off the cakes or what not?

Also, what does "flushing mean"?

And for the best release of co2 buildup, do i just take the tuppewear cover off, or could i kinda "case mod" my tupperwear with some 60mm fans and run em like 2 times a week with a push button?


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Angry Mycologist]
    #1239937 - 01/22/03 12:23 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

ok, ok, so I'M the asshole... sorry :frown:

-Loop


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Pack-tight, midnight, ship it to tha coast.
Some take tha plane, you, you on tha boat,
right beside tha money which right beside tha coke
Passin by tha coastgaurd, right under their nose.

To the US-HEY where anyone can getny, MIA all the way to New Your city, you a twenty now....


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: Loop_Theorist]
    #1240039 - 01/22/03 12:56 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Its okay loop-t, i still love you. Sorry for being a dick too!


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Re: Questions about mist makers, and growin tek's. [Re: d1giPhux]
    #1240187 - 01/22/03 01:46 PM (21 years, 1 month ago)

Would this be a good design?



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