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PINE t(h)ree
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I had a dream...You may call it astral projection, or an OBE

But I was walking down my road in the dream toward the north/east

I got to the end of my street, but once I got to a certain point past it the land scape changed, I was walking around on a property I had never seen before in my life...

The next day(not dreaming) I walked down my road, just as I did in my dream, at the point where the landscape changed in my dream, stood Two Noble Pine trees like two Columns right next to each
other...Now this is interesting because...


Pine trees have been very interesting to me lately. Pagans "worshipped" them and thought(knew) they were the incarnation of enligthenment.



The PINEal gland is shaped like a pine cone. Also some researchers call it the 'seat of the soul' and some believe it is where dreams take place.


Anything to add?

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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: TeamAmerica]
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The Celtic druids has a tradition of entering the underworld at places of great trees.

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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Quote:
Lesson One - THE TREE GATE

By Robert Moss

We are going to open a space for conscious dreaming - a space to which you may return any time you choose, and which you can use as the springboard for journeys of imagination to many interesting locales.

The exercise that follows is also great for raising your energy and helping you to become grounded and centered on any day of your life. After you have read the directions, you may want to stand up, as suggested in the text, to embody this meditation. You may want to do it outside. If you are fortunate enough to live next to the tree you choose to be your dream gate, you can go and do this exercise while sitting or standing with that tree.

Here we go:

Picture a tree that you know, a tree that knows you. It may be a tree in your yard or in the park, or a tree you remember from childhood, or a tree on the other side of the world. It can be any kind of tree. The important thing is that it should be a tree you can picture vividly.

Call the image of the tree, and the place where the tree stands, up from your memory. Use all of your senses to bring the scene alive. Is it warm here, or cool? Moist or dry? What sounds so you hear, in this place where the tree stands? Is there a taste that comes to you?

Feel yourself sitting or standing very close to your tree. Look at how its roots go down into the ground. Look at what is around the roots.

Now stand up for a moment, take off your shoes if you can, and imagine that you are standing like your tree, in the place where the tree stands.

Feel yourself reaching down into the earth, like the roots of the tree, going deep and spreading out. Feel the warmth and moisture of Earth. As you breathe in, feel the energy of Earth rising up through the soles of your feet, stirring and working in you. Let the Earth energy rise up through all of your body until it reaches the crown of your head.

Now feel that energy rising above you and branching out, like the limbs and canopy of your tree.

You are standing like a tree, rooted and centered in the Earth, rising between Earth and sky.

Now reach up with your awareness, towards the light. Feel the light streaming down towards you, down through your canopy. Your tree lives on sunlight. Feel yourself feeding on light, drinking light. Let the light stream down through your trunk. Let the light wash down through all of your body.

Now relax and feel yourself fully with your tree. Relax into the deep dream of the heartwood.

Picture how you can go down through the roots of your tree - or perhaps through a doorway that opens among its roots - and travel deep down into the Earth, into a world beneath the surface world. You may have the experience of going down a tunnel and coming out in a different landscape. An animal friend may be waiting for you hear, an ally that will support you in your current journey and other life journeys. You may be able to enter a space of healing, deep in the generous body of Earth. You may find a portal to the ancestors, and ancestral wisdom.

Now let your awareness gently rise up through the trunk of your tree, until you are hovering among the upper branches. You can find a place of vision up here, from which you can see into the far distance. It may just be a cleft in the branches, or something like a bird's nest, or an observation deck, or a tree house. You are high up, but you are quite secure here. You can look out across time as well as space, and see things that may happen in the future as well as things that are going on at a distance now. You have found the place of the tree-seer.

Look higher, for a moment. Feel yourself rising up through the canopy of your tree, lifting up like a bird. By traveling upward from your tree, you may be able to enter higher realms and encounter a higher guide for your life.

Let your whole body form the shapes of your tree. Let your arms and fingers spread to make the shapes of the limbs and twigs. Feel your body sway a little in a strong wind. Feel how you shift with the seasons.

Hold the image of your tree in your mind and your body. If you have truly found your tree, and its image lives with you, then you are already at home, deep inside the world of the ancient dreamers. You can use this tree to travel, in conscious journeys, through the three tiers of the shaman's universe - to the Lower World, the Middle World, and the Upper World.

And you can use the Tree Gate meditation any day you like to raise your energy and stay centered and grounded in the midst of whatever life throws at you.



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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
Quote:
Lesson One - THE TREE GATE

By Robert Moss

We are going to open a space for conscious dreaming - a space to which you may return any time you choose, and which you can use as the springboard for journeys of imagination to many interesting locales.

The exercise that follows is also great for raising your energy and helping you to become grounded and centered on any day of your life. After you have read the directions, you may want to stand up, as suggested in the text, to embody this meditation. You may want to do it outside. If you are fortunate enough to live next to the tree you choose to be your dream gate, you can go and do this exercise while sitting or standing with that tree.

Here we go:

Picture a tree that you know, a tree that knows you. It may be a tree in your yard or in the park, or a tree you remember from childhood, or a tree on the other side of the world. It can be any kind of tree. The important thing is that it should be a tree you can picture vividly.

Call the image of the tree, and the place where the tree stands, up from your memory. Use all of your senses to bring the scene alive. Is it warm here, or cool? Moist or dry? What sounds so you hear, in this place where the tree stands? Is there a taste that comes to you?

Feel yourself sitting or standing very close to your tree. Look at how its roots go down into the ground. Look at what is around the roots.

Now stand up for a moment, take off your shoes if you can, and imagine that you are standing like your tree, in the place where the tree stands.

Feel yourself reaching down into the earth, like the roots of the tree, going deep and spreading out. Feel the warmth and moisture of Earth. As you breathe in, feel the energy of Earth rising up through the soles of your feet, stirring and working in you. Let the Earth energy rise up through all of your body until it reaches the crown of your head.

Now feel that energy rising above you and branching out, like the limbs and canopy of your tree.

You are standing like a tree, rooted and centered in the Earth, rising between Earth and sky.

Now reach up with your awareness, towards the light. Feel the light streaming down towards you, down through your canopy. Your tree lives on sunlight. Feel yourself feeding on light, drinking light. Let the light stream down through your trunk. Let the light wash down through all of your body.

Now relax and feel yourself fully with your tree. Relax into the deep dream of the heartwood.

Picture how you can go down through the roots of your tree - or perhaps through a doorway that opens among its roots - and travel deep down into the Earth, into a world beneath the surface world. You may have the experience of going down a tunnel and coming out in a different landscape. An animal friend may be waiting for you hear, an ally that will support you in your current journey and other life journeys. You may be able to enter a space of healing, deep in the generous body of Earth. You may find a portal to the ancestors, and ancestral wisdom.

Now let your awareness gently rise up through the trunk of your tree, until you are hovering among the upper branches. You can find a place of vision up here, from which you can see into the far distance. It may just be a cleft in the branches, or something like a bird's nest, or an observation deck, or a tree house. You are high up, but you are quite secure here. You can look out across time as well as space, and see things that may happen in the future as well as things that are going on at a distance now. You have found the place of the tree-seer.

Look higher, for a moment. Feel yourself rising up through the canopy of your tree, lifting up like a bird. By traveling upward from your tree, you may be able to enter higher realms and encounter a higher guide for your life.

Let your whole body form the shapes of your tree. Let your arms and fingers spread to make the shapes of the limbs and twigs. Feel your body sway a little in a strong wind. Feel how you shift with the seasons.

Hold the image of your tree in your mind and your body. If you have truly found your tree, and its image lives with you, then you are already at home, deep inside the world of the ancient dreamers. You can use this tree to travel, in conscious journeys, through the three tiers of the shaman's universe - to the Lower World, the Middle World, and the Upper World.

And you can use the Tree Gate meditation any day you like to raise your energy and stay centered and grounded in the midst of whatever life throws at you.






Thanks you for this!

I was thinking that the pine tree has a connection with enlightenment consciousness, and that they might create some kind of energetic gate and coupling with a human, especially in a dream.

Any expansions of my thoughts guys?

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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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c0sm0nautt said:
The Celtic druids has a tradition of entering the underworld at places of great trees.




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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: TeamAmerica]
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The Amanita muscaria is mycorrhizal with both Pine and Oak trees. It is also the Mushroom of Earth, whereas the Psilocybe would be considered the Mushroom of the "Heavens" or Space. If the Celts/Druids had a tradition of entering realms at "great trees," then I think it would be self explanatory, as to why. Also, they worshiped Stag Gods (Cernunnos or Herne), which are interchangeable with Deer. It is known that Siberian Shamans and their caribou (reindeer) shared the wonders of the A. Muscaria together. You could imagine that the Celts/Druids were also the same, and had a mirrored relationship with their "stags."

It also has been speculated, that the effects experienced on the Amanita Muscaria, might be because of an increase in endogenous DMT levels or because of another unknown tryptamine present; this explains the dream-like tryptamine sensations that come from this particular mushroom.

"The constituents of seven mushrooms sold as Amanita muscaria or Amanita pantherina (five A. muscaria and two A. pantherina) and four “extracts purported to contain A. muscaria” products that are currently circulated in Japan were determined. All mushroom samples were identified as A. muscaria or A. pantherina by macroscopic and microscopic observation. The dissociative constituents, ibotenic acid (IBO) and muscimol (MUS), were extracted with 70% methanol twice and determined by gas chromatography/mass spectrometry....However, these samples contained other psychoactive compounds, such as psychoactive tryptamines (5-methoxy-N,N-diisopropyltryptamine and 5-methoxy-N,N-dimethyltryptamine), reversible monoamine oxidase inhibitors (harmine and harmaline) and tropane alkaloids (atropine and scopolamine), which were not quantified..."

Analysis of hallucinogenic constituents in Amanita mushrooms

"If Santa Claus had but one eye [like Odin], or if magic urine had been a part of his legend, his connection to the Amanita muscaria would be much easier to believe." - Scott Hajicek-Dobberstein

Seems like you're making some good connections though OP  :thumbup:  :heart:

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Re: PINE t(h)ree [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
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You mentioned the pineal gland being the seat of the soul and "where dreams take place."  Guess what?  The pineal gland releases, among other things, melatonin (which puts you to sleep) and DMT (which makes you trip balls).  It is said that dreams are simply DMT trips and that it is our natural connection to the world that other psychedelics take us to.  Based on the experiences people have with DMT I'd say that puts the whole pineal gland/pine cone worship thing into a malleable whole, that is it may not be that a causes b or vice versa but that the two most definitely seem to be connected.

Some go so far as to say DMT is released in near death states (causing the flash of life before one's eyes) as well as death and birth, but I have yet to see a study that actually tests levels of DMT during NDEs, death or birth (damn ethics in psychological testing!!!!)

I'm personally more inclined to believe it anyway based on what I've learned but I wholeheartedly acknowledge the lack of hard data and thus the possibility that that is incorrect.

edit: also, speaking of sacred trees, look up Yggdrasil, learn about it, then watch avatar (3d IMAX of course)


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"There was a time when I could not find, the spirit of God BEYOND the mind.  In retrospect the intellect is blind, it makes me think that I'm, the reason for all that's mine, even this rhyme I'm inclined to believe is from me, instead of being received. This is how we're deceived.  How am I more than dust? when it's your love that animates us?  Forever I will trust. Your love is better than lust. You. Live. Forever In Us." KRS ONE

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