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The 'real' James Arthur Ray
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Hi! You can live a life of wealth and fulfillment by utlilizing The Law of Attraction and taking full responsibility for your actions.


Yeah, like I am going to take responsibility for some moron's death. You motherfuckers will never convict me. YOU HEAR ME?!


Oh shit! My face is melting...


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (02/05/10 09:12 AM)

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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Seriously, where have all 'The Secret' believers gone? You were here in droves a while back promotoing fluff. Have you all turned pussy or do you now accept my cynical, skeptical ways to be more in accord with reality than you previously thought?

What gives?


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (02/05/10 09:14 AM)

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Oh shit! My face is melting...



:rofl2:


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:redpanda:
If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you

:heartpump: :bunnyhug: :yinyang:

:yinyang: :levitate: :earth: :levitate: :yinyang:

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: fireworks_god]
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Once that wax melts off...



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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: fireworks_god]
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not that i agree or believe in "the secret" but it is rather ad-hominem-y to refute peoples personal gains through a philosophy created by a man simply because that man is legally responsible for someones death.

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: SneezingPenis]
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He's not practicing what he preaches. I hear now he's blaming the manufacturer of the sweat lodge.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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doesnt matter. if i invented free energy, but then became Amish, does that discredit my discovery?

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: SneezingPenis]
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If I discover something only to find it doesn't work does that count as a discovery?


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: SneezingPenis]
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Quote:
not that i agree or believe in "the secret" but it is rather ad-hominem-y to refute peoples personal gains through a philosophy created by a man simply because that man is legally responsible for someones death.



More of a pre-hominey. I slammed Ray the day before the deaths and one day before the indictments.

Perhaps I am a precog...


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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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Quote:
If I discover something only to find it doesn't work does that count as a discovery?



If you have a good PR team.


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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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sure.

but back to the point... if someone had personal gains through using "the secret", how does the guy who wrote the book going to jail mean those gains are false?

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
He's not practicing what he preaches. I hear now he's blaming the manufacturer of the sweat lodge.



No, he claims full responsibility, just not criminal or financial culpability.

Not sure what 'full responsibility' means though.


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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: SneezingPenis]
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if someone had personal gains

That's an if. I want to see this someone. I do know for a fact that some people using the secret are now dead. But like I said earlier. I don't care that they are dead. If someone is dumb enough to pay up to $10,000 and too dumb to know when they are in a dangerous situation and save themselves then they will not be missed by me at least. I really think they should let him start over as I suggested. He's doing a service.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Edited by Icelander (02/05/10 10:30 AM)

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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yeah, thats an if for me as well. if no one had any personal gains, i would shut up, but im betting that some people, regardless of whether or not it was positive thinking and just mere coincidence of having read a book and won a scratch off ticket, have made personal gains while practicing this philosophy.

look at mormons, many of them realize that the joe smith story is ridiculous, but they enjoy the teachings of the church and believe that their family is better because of it. when it comes down to philosophy or religion, it doesnt have to be right for people to change their lives for what they perceive to be better.

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Icelander]
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Because of The Law of Attraction? Ray hinted that maybe they wanted to die and were ready for The Transition.

Spin City, baby!


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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Seriously, where have all 'The Secret' believers gone? You were here in droves a while back promotoing fluff. Have you all turned pussy or do you now accept my cynical, skeptical ways to be more in accord with reality than you previously thought?

What gives?




Maybe its that this is a forum for psychology & philosophy, not spiritual matters  :shrug:
You've made more spiritual threads in here than all the spiritualists combined

I only recall one guy talking about the secret alot, that dude who was always saying 'how can i give you the best possible rating?' lol

You can actually tell when a moderator has been in contact with OC, just wait to see loads of trash threads & you know someones had their bottom spanked


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Edited by Chronic7 (02/05/10 12:14 PM)

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Chronic7]
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:lol: those pictures are priceless


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Jesus loves you.

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: andrewss]
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Maybe its that this is a forum for psychology & philosophy, not spiritual mattersĀ 
You've made more spiritual threads in here than all the spiritualists combined


This is a debate-oriented philosophy, sociology, & psychology forum, so to debate the philosophical, sociological, and/or psychological aspects of spiritual matters in this forum is appropriate. :thumbup:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Poid]
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Sounds fun


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Re: The 'real' James Arthur Ray [Re: Chronic7]
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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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