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any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator???
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lol....im watching it on justin tv..  and who knows?  :shrug:
:lol:
this show is so fucked, yet funny at the same time
i dont wana bang lil girls.....but i kinda have some kinda understanding of human nature, and nature in general.
u ever watch a dog try to fuck a puppy. 
im just sayin
u can trust, im not into that.....
i gets mine
but, maybe im just open minded. 
but i also think....once a girl is bleedin....nature says its alright.  and so long as we lived back in the day it would happen all the time
the average life span back in the day was way less
girls were havin kids mad young....once they started menstrating
im not defending the pedos!
im glad ive never been there.  im 28 now.  but if i was 17....id proly easily hit up a 13 year old slut.  actualy...i did.  i got laid first time at 13 with a 12 year old?  o well.  and i seen a few youngings on there that got busted on the show.....and also seen some girls around town that look of age that want it real bad......that i would almost love for them to lie to me? lol  :shrug:
can u with all honestly say thats bad?
i had sex with a 16 or 17 year old when i was 22.  it was legal in that state...but might not of been in others.  does it make it wrong that i enjoyed it?  that i did it?  psshhhhhttt!
no qualms about it.
proly the best sex i ever had honestly!  she was a lil slut...knew how to grind, tight, omg!  fuck the world!
people are fucking stupid man.  i still dont agree with 60 year olds tryin to get with 13 year olds....but its entrapment man.  these people should proly just buy a hooker.  but they are hard up.  and proly like the thought of actualy being wanted.  ????????????
i just had to put that out there
here come the flames!?  :rockon:


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: DeadPhan]
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I think people make too much of a fuss about age. Sure, lots of pedos are out there hurting young kids, and that's obviously wrong. But, the two things that make it bad are A) intent and B) social stigma.

If it's not an abuse situation (I know, by law it's all abuse... but you know what I mean) but rather a consensual relationship, what's wrong with it? Some 12 year olds are more mature than most 20 year olds. Shouldn't it be their option?

And, if society didn't tell these kids that they had been abused, would it have hurt them? If you have a good relationship, but then the world keeps telling you it was abuse, aren't you going to end up feeling abused? Isn't that the real harm?

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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millar said:
I think people make too much of a fuss about age. Sure, lots of pedos are out there hurting young kids, and that's obviously wrong. But, the two things that make it bad are A) intent and B) social stigma.

If it's not an abuse situation (I know, by law it's all abuse... but you know what I mean) but rather a consensual relationship, what's wrong with it? Some 12 year olds are more mature than most 20 year olds. Shouldn't it be their option?

And, if society didn't tell these kids that they had been abused, would it have hurt them? If you have a good relationship, but then the world keeps telling you it was abuse, aren't you going to end up feeling abused? Isn't that the real harm?


What a fucking claim. I completely disagree. You're comparing some 12 year olds to most 20 year olds. How is that a fair comparison?

When we compare, we look at means(averages)- we don't compare minorities to majorities.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Neuron]
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I also completely disagree, thats some nambla rationale right there. IT was considered ok back in greece and japan with little boys but its just wrong.

Its all about mentality. I dont care how old she acts or if shes bleeding...women (usually) arent ready in the mind.

its a pervasive male fantasy...youth. We make porn were girls with small tits wear pigtails(hopefully of age) and all that jazz but there's a fine fucking line.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Neuron]
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My point is, you can't make claims for every individual based on the "average." There are always going to be exceptions, and to state categorically that something is 'wrong' ignores that.

It may be that the laws that are in place, to protect the majority, are a lot more helpful to than majority than harmful to the exceptions. Laws often do disadvantage some people 'unfairly' because looking at the big picture, the net result is positive - greatest good of the greatest number, or maximizing utility.

But that doesn't change the fact that it's unfair to label every relationship involving these age differences as abusive. There was a case in western Canada less than a year ago, involving a minor who was a Jehovah's Witness, who sued to government for forcing her to have a blood transfusion. Her case was basically that she was as competent as an adult to make that decision, and the court (while not condemning the health services for acting in good faith) ruled that she did have that right, and that future cases of the same nature should consider not just calender age but also competency.

It seems to me that a minor (in sexual terms, often different from the definition in other terms) should be able to testify to their competence, in order to defend their partner from a statutory rape charge.

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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Thing is, I'm treating this as a philosophical question, and trying to not go with the gut "gross, wrong, sick" etc reaction.

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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I use to get on chat sites and lure guys in, saying I was 14. When they agreed to cyber with me I would be all like I'm from Msnbc: How to catch a predator. Do not attempt to log off your computer and do not leave your home. You are under arrest.

They logged off everytime, It never failed.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: LadyLittleZeppelin]
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:pedobear:+:hansen:= :grizzlybear:


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Salomon]
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children aren't fully developed cognitively to be making the same decisions as grown ups therefor NO, I don't understand fucking children, they can't possibly give consent, it's ALWAYS rape in my eyes.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: PreparationH]
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agreed.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: PreparationH]
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PreparationH:

Do you claim that you, or anyone, can give a precise age that:

1) below which, no children are mature enough to make these decisions, and
2) above which, everyone *is* mature enough?

If so, you have a great deal of faith in psychology, and in the unvarying uniformity of development.

If not, you have to concede that in some cases the laws, social norms, etc are unfair to some individuals. That's all I'm claiming, with the codicil that the legal system should allow the 'exceptions' or outliers to challenge the standard definitions.

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: DeadPhan]
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I believe there was one but I banned him a couple of days ago


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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happy bday pris:hug:


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Somnivore7]
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If it's old enough to get pregnant then nature has a deemed it ok.

That being said, nature is my best friend and my worst enemy, and i believe that everything evolutionary was at some point "unnatural" and maybe nature doesn't do everything right. Like clothes, clothes are a very good idea. I don't want to see a bunch of ugly fucks naked. Unnatural wins that one.
Legal age is something largely based on the assumption that man is not as animalistic as the rest of the creatures inhabiting this planet.
Wether or not it's good or bad can be based on any number of things. Whats good for society? whats good for the individual?

Society is full of shit, so it's hard to differentiate between shit and good idea. If the point of having a legal age is to keep the population down then I'm all for it, also I think we should have a limit on # of children like china in a way, just not quite as extreme.
If it is to "protect" the young then I say it's shit. They are going to be corrupted anyways and do what they want. Society is full of bad ideas enacted because people think they know whats best, is it best for it to be illegal to fuck a 16, 17 year old? probaly not... a 14, 15 year old? probaly. But as humans we'll never know especially with something that is so largely individual.

Well legal age shouldn't be based on age at all.... rather maturity, so tests should be administered. A license to fuck?

Basically, minors get fucked by older people all the time, law doesn't really exist except as a human construct and neither does good and evil.
So yeah.... enjoy away. Whatever you want. That's my opinion, thou shalt do what thou pleases as long as thou can get away with it.


Somnivore7 said:
Its all about mentality. I dont care how old she acts or if shes bleeding...women (usually) arent ready in the mind.



lol and your going to tell them when they are ready? I'd hate to see that test.
Most women aren't ready until they are 30 and even then... :snow:

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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millar said:
PreparationH:

Do you claim that you, or anyone, can give a precise age that:

1) below which, no children are mature enough to make these decisions, and
2) above which, everyone *is* mature enough?

If so, you have a great deal of faith in psychology, and in the unvarying uniformity of development.

If not, you have to concede that in some cases the laws, social norms, etc are unfair to some individuals. That's all I'm claiming, with the codicil that the legal system should allow the 'exceptions' or outliers to challenge the standard definitions.


Biologically speaking(hard evidence, here)- Prep H is absolutely right. The prefrontal cortex doesn't stop developing until about age 21, and even at the age of 17 is largely undeveloped.

The exceptions to the rule line is stupid. There are exceptions to nearly every rule. It's a weak form of argument.


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: Neuron]
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statutory rape laws have always been unjust.

did you just get the memo?:eek:


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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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Bullshit. What gives you the idea that someone is only competent to make decisions about sexuality once their development has stopped?

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There are exceptions to nearly every rule


Exactly. And there should be a mechanism for the law to recognize these exceptions. I don't claim that we should treat every case individually (too expensive, to start with) but that we should allow those who think they are being wronged by the system to demonstrate their mental competence (at their own expense. A brief interview with a panel of psychologists would probably be adequate.)

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It's a weak form of argument.


What exactly do I claim, that is weakly supported?

If you read my post higher up, I acknowledged quite clearly the value of such laws in general. I'm simply saying that A) exceptions exist and B) strictly speaking, that system isn't very fair on the exceptions.

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: millar]
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Quote:
did you just get the memo?


Are you talking to me? Ask the people who don't seem to have yet :smile:

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Re: any shroomerites ever on to catch a predator??? [Re: DeadPhan]
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I remember on one of those episodes, the bait girl told the guy that there were cookies or something on the table.  In a Boston accent, the guy said "Did ya dose em?" with a big smile on his face.  Fucking prick. 










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