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Bloodymuffin
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Amanita pantherina?

#11240606 - 10/13/09 04:30 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Habitat:
Found in a park of mixed conifer and deciduous trees in north louisiana on the ground alone.

Gills:
White gills with some reddish bruises

Stem:
Stained whitish stem about 3.5-4 inches, bulbous base, hollow stuffed

Cap:
3.5-4 inches brown with brown spots. this confuses me as i dont know of any mushrooms with brown spots.

Spore print color:
don't know.

Bruising:
doesn't bruise for me but has some red marks on stem and flesh where bugs ate it.

Other information:
not much of a scent if any at all.

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inski
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240617 - 10/13/09 04:32 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like Amanita rubescens.
inski..

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240658 - 10/13/09 04:39 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Why do you say that? i've looked at both species but i cant tell.

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TheShroomanizer
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240667 - 10/13/09 04:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Looks like he says that because of the VERY obvious red bruising that occurs, thats my guess.

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Bretdaniel
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240670 - 10/13/09 04:41 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Amanita Pantherina has more of a brownish tint to it. Yours has a red blush tint to it, making it a Amanita Rubescens notice how the gills stain red also.

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inski
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bretdaniel]
#11240687 - 10/13/09 04:45 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Bretdaniel said:

Amanita Pantherina has more of a brownish tint to it. Yours has a red blush tint to it, making it a Amanita Rubescens notice how the gills stain red also.

Amanita pantherina will have a prominent white volva also.
inski.

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Bretdaniel
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: inski]
#11240690 - 10/13/09 04:46 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks I forgot to add that too. :blush:

:blush:

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: TheShroomanizer]
#11240696 - 10/13/09 04:47 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

TheShroomanizer said:

Looks like he says that because of the VERY obvious red bruising that occurs, thats my guess.

Well that's what i was leaning toward, but the fact that it doesnt bruise for me (all those stains were there to begin with) caused me to doubt it. especially based on the fact that its in an area with some very red soil and that could have been a contributing factor.

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Bretdaniel
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240704 - 10/13/09 04:48 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Nah. Those stains are there to begin with because A. Rubescens naturally bruises that red color, that's why they call them blushers.

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inski
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bretdaniel]
#11240712 - 10/13/09 04:50 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

The base of the stipe in Amanita species is a very important identifying feature and describing it in detail helps a lot with identification, a good reason why we collect the whole specimen with the base intact!
inski..

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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240716 - 10/13/09 04:50 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Amanita amerirubescens

Quote:

Why do you say that?

One reason is the very un-pantherina like stem base.

And of course the red staining.

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bretdaniel]
#11240721 - 10/13/09 04:51 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Cool. thanks for the help.

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

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#11240730 - 10/13/09 04:52 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

inski said:

The base of the stipe in Amanita species is a very important identifying feature and describing it in detail helps a lot with identification, a good reason why we collect the whole specimen with the base intact!
inski..

lol... sorry. curiosity got the better of me and i cut it open. it was actually a very nice specimen to begin with but i ruined it...

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inski
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11240737 - 10/13/09 04:53 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Alan Rockefeller said:

Amanita amerirubescens

Quote:

Why do you say that?

One reason is the very un-pantherina like stem base.

And of course the red staining.

Yes, now that you mention it Rod has changed the species name to Amanita amerirubescens.
inski.

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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Bloodymuffin]
#11240744 - 10/13/09 04:55 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Bloodymuffin said:

inski said:

The base of the stipe in Amanita species is a very important identifying feature and describing it in detail helps a lot with identification, a good reason why we collect the whole specimen with the base intact!
inski..

lol... sorry. curiosity got the better of me and i cut it open. it was actually a very nice specimen to begin with but i ruined it...

It's fine that you cut it open as long as you collect the whole specimen and don't leave part of it in the field!
inski..

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: inski]
#11240757 - 10/13/09 04:58 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

One last question here, is it normal for the spots on the rubescens to be that dark? in other pictures i've seen they're all lighter than that.

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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

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#11240770 - 10/13/09 05:00 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I guess the spots get darker in age. Its possible that you have A. flavorubens, check a younger specimen.

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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11240788 - 10/13/09 05:03 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Actually i saw this same mushroom yesterday and let it grow. the spots have been that dark the whole time.

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inski
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

[Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#11240798 - 10/13/09 05:05 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

I thought that also, Amanita favorubens will have yellow warts and the flesh under the warts will be yellow!
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Bloodymuffin
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Re: Amanita pantherina?

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#11240806 - 10/13/09 05:06 PM (16 years, 10 months ago)

Nah. its not flavorubens. i've got some of those growing around here and the two look a lot different in person.

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