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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi86 said:
Prisoner#1 said:
wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us


Sorry bud, both those organizations stopped counting individual cases, so this entire post is kinda useless.

You are just arguing for fuck's sake. You ignore blatant evidence.


lol... so the World Health Organization and the Centers For Disease Control stopped counting, then why would you cite them
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11238194#11238194

who provides the data for the news and that other link or are they just
fabricating the numbers because it was you that cited a mere 302 people
in the US dead from the h1n1 flu while all these other show far more


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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No, I think that you are not understanding.

The flu kills.
h1n1 kills.
Numbers aren't accurate at this time, but sources state two things;
  • The flu outbreak is worse this year.
  • Most of those flu cases are indeed H1N1.


Here is another fun fact.

This week, 19 children died from the flu. 16 of those children had H1N1.

I have quoted several sources regarding this subject.

If you have any logic, I suggest read more about this, don't just scoff at it and claim it's a fucking hoax dude. It's taking peoples lives, more so than the seasonal flu is and it's affecting a wider range of people, healthy people.

You get my point, if not, oh well. You'll get sick sooner or later.

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lol... so the World Health Organization and the Centers For Disease Control stopped counting, then why would you cite them
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11238194#11238194

who provides the data for the news and that other link or are they just
fabricating the numbers because it was you that cited a mere 302 people
in the US dead from the h1n1 flu while all these other show far more


Because I cited them before I read that they had stopped counting due to the overwhelming amount of cases.

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As the virus quickly spread globally, clinics were overwhelmed by testing and treating patients, and the WHO and the U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) eventually stopped counting all cases and focused instead on tracking major outbreaks. In early June 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak to be a pandemic, but also noted that most of the illnesses were of moderate severity.

Source: Wikipedia



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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: z_x_x_z]
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o otay

:rolleyes:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: z_x_x_z]
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Nice contribution to the debate.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi86 said:
Numbers aren't accurate at this time, but sources state two things;
  • The flu outbreak is worse this year.
  • Most of those flu cases are indeed H1N1.



*the media reports state

I can accept a 'numbers arent accurate' but to have a variance of 1300
cases with the WHO reporting the highest, some h1n1 site owned by
someone in the czech republic that hasnt been updated since july being
the lowest yet even with the current information the regular flu kills
an average of more than 700 people per week and the h1n1 strain is
supposed to be so much more devastating? the regular flu season hasnt
even started yet, that's not until mid november
http://whois.domaintools.com/flu-virus.org

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Here is another fun fact.

This week, 19 children died from the flu. 16 of those children had H1N1.




wow... did you know that 13000 people have died from the influenza A
virus from january to april of this year, that's 800 per week, 2 weeks
of it is the equivalent of the total death tol reported in the US for
h1n1 for the entire year

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/regular.flu/index.html
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# Since January, more than 13,000 have died of complications from seasonal flu



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I have quoted several sources regarding this subject.



as have I


Quote:
If you have any logic, I suggest read more about this, don't just scoff at it and claim it's a fucking hoax dude. It's taking peoples lives, more so than the seasonal flu is and it's affecting a wider range of people, healthy people.



flu-A has killed more people in shorter time spans this year alone and
they're making a huge deal out of the swine flu, I suggest you do some
reading on something other than what the media is pushing to panic people


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Because I cited them before I read that they had stopped counting due to the overwhelming amount of cases.



lol... overwhelming when they simply pull the data from the CDC, WHO and a couple of other sites, it's called laziness, they simply didnt feel like a weekly update or a daily update... read their data
http://h1n1.flu-virus.org/Cases-.php?in=United%20States


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Source: Wikipedia



let's look at the numbers from the wiki link, the big lavender sidebar

Worldwide (total) 4,699 +195 (4%)
North America 920‡ +13 (1%)‡

and the fine print
‡The USA introduced a new reporting system on August 30, 2009
in which localities are not required to discern between pandemic and
seasonal flu.[2] Since then, the ECDC has no longer been updating
the USA number.

well... I'm guessing that these new deaths this week may have a little bit of a skew as to what's causing them


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner, methinks you need a job or a hobby.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Neuron]
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I have a job and a hobby

shroomery.org  :smirk:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi, I'm in my 40's and have been in close contact with 2
different people that have h1n1 and have yet to come down with it

this bug is no worse than the regular flu
I have been skeptical of this thing from the beginning

there has been way too much hype over it
they are pushing this vaccine way to hard
for my taste and it kinda makes me :paranoid:

I haven't had a flu shot since I left the military 20 years ago and do not feel any special need to now


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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:lol:  The interwebs is hardcore!

Feeling better today.  Have no energy tho, mostly just sleeping and drinking gatorade.  And smoking lots of weed.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I hear smoking weed wont make you better, but at least you wont care as much that you're sick


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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weed is key

:happyweed:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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niteowl said:
I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.



yeah, ok buddy.  what ever you say.  :rolleyes:

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi86 said:
The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.


you're a fucking fool buddy, you do realize 250,000 - 5000,000 people die EACH YEAR from the regular flu?

so what's your point?  unless the swine flu ends in a fatal pandemic, I'm NOT getting a vaccine.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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I don't really have much to add to this thread, I just wanted to say that I would like to nominate every H1N1 thread on the Shroomery for "The dumbest and most futile arguments ever."

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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Wow, bigboi86. Way to buy into the hype! Oh noes, the flu. We're all going to die.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Brugman]
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my roommate just had swine flu and she was only stuck in bed for like a day, maybe a day and a half. today she's chipper and feeling well. 

last time i had the flu, i was in bed for a week...

sounds to me swine flu is a bunch of malarkey.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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PMasterPoo said:
niteowl said:
I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.



yeah, ok buddy.  what ever you say.  :rolleyes:


:dudewtf:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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get well soon niteowl, 3 weeks is a long time to be sick and unworried


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