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I'm H1N1 Positive
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This is some hype, i feel like a have a minor case of the flu.  Fever, anorexia, head ache, cough and a little nauseous too.  It is part of my schools policy that i don't go to class if i am knowingly positive.  But i really could go about my daily routine.  Some advil, constant cannabis use and sleep should have me feeling better.:thumbup:

:peace:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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:flyingpig:

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Such a hype. They want to scare us into getting the vaccines. Fuck that.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
This is some hype, i feel like a have a minor case of the flu.  Fever, anorexia, head ache, cough and a little nauseous too.



I believe you're a hypochondriac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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haha, so you don't actually know tho...

I've got a fever of 100.6, sore throat, head ache, achy all over, and chills.  I'm still going to class anyways, or at least one of them because I have a math test wednesday and a review for it today...

correct me if I'm wrong but anorexia technically isn't a temporary symptom of a sickness, that's an actual disease...

Edited by PMasterPoo (10/12/09 01:15 PM)

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
Cognitive_Shift said:
This is some hype, i feel like a have a minor case of the flu.  Fever, anorexia, head ache, cough and a little nauseous too.



I believe you're a hypochondriac

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anorexia_nervosa


I am using it here to state that i have no hunger.  Not that i have an eating disorder.  Doctors use this term to describe the feeling of not being hungry to eat, or not eating.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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I've always heard loss of appetite used, anorexia suggests a psychological condition


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11233164 -

Nope, where do you think Anorexia Nervosa came from?
Quote:
anorexia
[an′ōrek′sē·ə]
Etymology: Gk, a + orexis, not appetite
a lack or loss of appetite, resulting in the inability to eat. The condition may result from poorly prepared or unattractive food or surroundings, unfavorable company, or various physical and psychologic causes.


http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/anorexia


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
    #11233179 -

I never believed all the hype over the swine flu

it is really no different than any other flu


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cognitive_Shift said:
Nope, where do you think Anorexia Nervosa came from?
Quote:
anorexia
[an′ōrek′sē�ə]
Etymology: Gk, a + orexis, not appetite
a lack or loss of appetite, resulting in the inability to eat. The condition may result from poorly prepared or unattractive food or surroundings, unfavorable company, or various physical and psychologic causes.


http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/anorexia


an·o·rex·i·a (n-rks-)
n.
1. Loss of appetite, especially as a result of disease.
2. Anorexia nervosa.


Eating disorder associated with extreme fluctuations and loss in body weight


n absence of the desire to eat, induced by psychological drugs or by social, environmental, or other factors.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #11233219 -

Dude...:facepalm:

The disease is called Anorexia Nervosa.

The word "Anorexia" is a description of not eating.  This is why the disease is called Anorexia Nervosa....

and no source... dude...


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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diseases can cause anorexia, it's there in the page along with a
dozen other 'causes', Anorexia Nervosa is a psychological condition,
it's not a disease


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That is an encyclopedia definition, not a medical dictionary one breh.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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the definitions I used were from your link
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/anorexia

Prisoner#1 said:
anorexia suggests a psychological condition



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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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This is the song that never ends


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Yes.  This too,

Quote:
The condition may result from poorly prepared or unattractive food or surroundings, unfavorable company, or various physical and psychologic causes.


Quote:
absence of the desire to eat, induced by psychological drugs or by social, environmental, or other factors.



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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Cog_Shift is correct...

"Anorexia" Nervosa is simply the most popular usage of the word.

Doctors probably use "loss of appetite" so people don't get confused and think they have the mental condition!

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: RoosterCogburn]
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doctors also tend use a few other choice words like  aphagia or anophagia

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6606
Aphagia: Inability to eat. From the Greek prefix "a-" meaning "not" + "phago" meaning "to eat" + not to eat.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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More people die from the regular influenza each year than swine flu.

Rest up, make some hot honey tea, smoke a bowl, and enjoy your time off. :smile:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Dynoo]
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loss of appetite can last for weeks or even months, how ever to be classified with anorexia your body fat actually has to be under a certain percentage.

FACT.

bottom line, you ARE a hypochondriac.

https://www.google.com/health/ref/Anorexia+nervosa

Quote:
Anorexia nervosa is an eating disorder that involves limiting the amount of food a person eats. It results in starvation and an inability to stay at the minimum body weight considered healthy for the person's age and height.


Edited by PMasterPoo (10/12/09 02:50 PM)

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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aight


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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Cogshift isn't a hypochondriac. He just used a word (correctly, you guys are WRONG) to describe a symptom, and you just disagree with his vocabulary. That does NOT make him a fucking hypochondriac.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
doctors also tend use a few other choice words like  aphagia or anophagia

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6606
Aphagia: Inability to eat. From the Greek prefix "a-" meaning "not" + "phago" meaning "to eat" + not to eat.


Inability to eat is different from loss of appetite. And PMasterPoo you are still talking about Anorexia NERVOSA!

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: psilyguy]
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psilyguy said:
Cogshift isn't a hypochondriac. He just used a word (correctly, you guys are WRONG) to describe a symptom, and you just disagree with his vocabulary. That does NOT make him a fucking hypochondriac.



I was not actually basing my statement on the fact he used the wrong word so much as he assumes he has the real swine flu, just because he has the flu.

GET IT?  It was kind of a joke..

so chill out bro.

Edited by PMasterPoo (10/12/09 09:03 PM)

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: psilyguy]
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psilyguy said:
Prisoner#1 said:
doctors also tend use a few other choice words like  aphagia or anophagia

http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=6606
Aphagia: Inability to eat. From the Greek prefix "a-" meaning "not" + "phago" meaning "to eat" + not to eat.


Inability to eat is different from loss of appetite. And PMasterPoo you are still talking about Anorexia NERVOSA!


There is NO difference between anorexia and anorexia nervosa.  it's just the most commonly used term.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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I really stocked up on bacon, and am betting that having a healthy diet of 24/7 bacon will give immunity to any imminent pig attacks.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooooh my fucking god




so a person makes a thread about how swine flu is blown way out of proportion, saying it's not so bad




and then people, i dont know what it is, maybe it's the electrons of :seriousbusiness: that flow through them as a natural byproduct of being on the internet,


just have to be disagreeable motherfuckers, in ANY WAY THEY CAN FIND

so they tell the OP he is a hypochondriac, when the thread is damn near about hypochondria being b.s. (close enough, you argumentative internet users)



and then it gets into a whole big debate about the SEMANTICS of the word anorexia






WHHHOOOOOOOOOOO GIIIIIIIVES A FUCK


:hug: :happyweed: :mushroom2: :cactuar: :lsd: :peace: more,


argue less


especially when you go off topic for hours just because you ARHGRGHR :seriousbusiness: HAVE to have something to disagree with







by the way, saying that "this word = current loss of appetite, not a disease"  DOES NOT imply hypochondria

saying "i havent eaten in a few days, I think I have a disease" is. 

:seriousbusiness: there. I did it. I argued. But only because some of these arguments are absolutely idiotic and are taking up valuable :dancer: party space with their massive ego density


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: the bizzle]
    #11236212 -

that post reminds me of making stories with candy bars for certain words in 3rd grade.
you're funny.

Edited by PMasterPoo (10/12/09 09:34 PM)

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
    #11236232 -

PMasterPoo said:
loss of appetite can last for weeks or even months, how ever to be classified with anorexia your body fat actually has to be under a certain percentage.

FACT.

bottom line, you ARE a hypochondriac.








:orly:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: I AM SWIM]
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This thread makes my brain hurt.  I can't decide which of you is more idiotic :gethigh:

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: the bizzle]
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If I get that shit I'm gonna be lickin' all the doorknobs on campus and coughin' up the water fountains.

Call me patient zero, bitches.
:madpirate:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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PMasterPoo said:
psilyguy said:
Cogshift isn't a hypochondriac. He just used a word (correctly, you guys are WRONG) to describe a symptom, and you just disagree with his vocabulary. That does NOT make him a fucking hypochondriac.



I was not actually basing my statement on the fact he used the wrong word so much as he assumes he has the real swine flu, just because he has the flu.

GET IT?  It was kind of a joke..

so chill out bro.


he tested positive, which means he has the real H1N1 :shrug:

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: psilyguy]
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also i'm just arguing for the sake of arguing cause im drunk and its fun. that and i'm right :tongue:

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: psilyguy]
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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Entropymancer]
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:rofl: omg that thing is ugly!

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: psilyguy]
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:shocked: I didn't think it was polite to say such things about things with extra chromosomes :hehehe:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
I never believed all the hype over the swine flu

it is really no different than any other flu


Totally, they're having a h1n1 flu shot clinic at my work + we're getting updates about the lack of vaccine.

I work in a warehouse for a really shitty wage.

I cant believe people buy into this shit.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PDU]
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they only way i can imagine that "they" would know the characteristics of a specific virus before the actual "pandemic" is if they actually created it.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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you should go as frankenswine for helloween.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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whatever u do dont take teh vaccine

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: IMaGicaL]
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You guys realize that plenty of healthy people are dying from the H1N1 virus?


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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No more than the regular flu :flowstone:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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Far less from the numbers I've seen.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: blewmeanie]
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:yesnod:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
No more than the regular flu :flowstone:


I don't think any of you guys must be watching the news.

http://www.wkyt.com/home/headlines/64042912.html

2 normal, healthy soldiers have died.

http://h1n1.flu-virus.org/H1N1-US-deaths.php

Here is the number of deaths so far in the US.

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/

Here are the latest flu reports.

This is a virus new to humans. It is not bright to automatically think your immune system will kick it's ass.

If this is nothing to scoff at, why are normal healthy people dying from it instead of their immune system fighting it off?

I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi86 said:
niteowl said:
No more than the regular flu :flowstone:


I don't think any of you guys must be watching the news.




maybe you shouldnt pay attention to the news

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/deaths.htm
Quote:
Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.



http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
Quote:
about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes.



this shows the difference in the wrong diagnosis.com and CDC death stats
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/07/health/main535605.shtml
Quote:
The U.S. death toll surged fourfold from 16,263 in 1976-77 to 64,684 in 1998-99, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. Flu deaths now average about 36,000 a year, up from 20,000 in previous estimates, the CDC said.



it still seems to me that 300 is far less than 36,000


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
    #11238237 -

This is 100% a genetically engineered virus its so obvious.

How do they already have a vaccination for a "new flu" when it usually

takes several years to develop a vaccine. My theory is that it was

released earlier this year as a beta test to see how we would react

and now that it is prime flu season there will be an all out hype fest

aimed at getting you to take the vaccine which contains the REAL virus

that mutates and spreads. hmmmmm maybe you've been watching a little to

much news.

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: IMaGicaL]
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IMaGicaL said:
This is 100% a genetically engineered virus its so obvious.

How do they already have a vaccination for a "new flu" when it usually

takes several years to develop a vaccine.



lol... it can take a few days to develop a new vaccine


I cant belive I just defended modern medicine


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
maybe you shouldnt pay attention to the news

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/f/flu/deaths.htm
Quote:
Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, 5,310 per month, 1,225 per week, 174 per day, 7 per hour, 0 per minute, 0 per second.



http://www.cdc.gov/flu/keyfacts.htm
Quote:
about 36,000 people die from flu-related causes.



this shows the difference in the wrong diagnosis.com and CDC death stats
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/01/07/health/main535605.shtml
Quote:
The U.S. death toll surged fourfold from 16,263 in 1976-77 to 64,684 in 1998-99, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported. Flu deaths now average about 36,000 a year, up from 20,000 in previous estimates, the CDC said.



it still seems to me that 300 is far less than 36,000


The data from the first two links is at least 5 years old.

I guess a virus that can kill a healthy soldier that just passed a rigorous physical examination within 48 hours is just the media starting shit again.

19 children died this week from the flu. 16 of those children had h1n1. I guess it's all a hoax though right?

Quote:
The proportion of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) based on the 122 Cities Report has increased and now exceeds what is normally expected at this time of year. In addition, 19 flu-related pediatric deaths were reported this week; 16 of these deaths were confirmed 2009 H1N1 and 3 were unsubtyped influenza A and likely to be 2009 H1N1. A total of 76 laboratory confirmed 2009 H1N1 pediatric deaths have been reported to CDC since April.


Quote:
Almost all of the influenza viruses identified so far are 2009 H1N1 influenza A viruses. These viruses remain similar to the virus chosen for the 2009 H1N1 vaccine, and remain susceptible to the antiviral drugs oseltamivir and zanamivir with rare exception.


Quote:
Thirty-seven states are reporting widespread influenza activity at this time. They are: Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, California, Colorado, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Minnesota, Mississippi, Missouri, Nebraska, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Ohio, Oklahoma, Oregon, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Tennessee, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming. Any reports of widespread influenza activity in September and October are very unusual.


How the fuck can you people ignore increased death rates and facts backing everything up?


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: z_x_x_z]
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dr_gonz said:
maybe you should receive the Nobel peace prize?


I have seven and only had to kill 38 people to get them, that's like a record


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi86 said:
The data from the first two links is at least 5 years old.


I know, and this way we know for a fact it's not the H1N1 virus that's killing tens of thousands

Quote:
I guess a virus that can  that just passed a rigorous physical examination within 48 hours is just the media starting shit again.




pretty much since it's not just old people that die from the flu, often
times there's underlying medical conditions that arent detected, is
there any info on what sort of vaccinations he received at the time of
his 'rigorous physical'


Quote:
19 children died this week from the flu. 16 of those children had h1n1. I guess it's all a hoax though right?



didnt say it's a hoax, said it was media hype, the CDC is reporting the
figures and they're reporting far more people dying from the average flu
strains, why is this one such a big deal? because it's a new strain



Quote:
How the fuck can you people ignore increased death rates and facts backing everything up?


when it kills 65k people, let me know, until then lets ask ourselves was
it the flu, was it some underlying issue, was it some shit created by
the medical profession that we call a vaccine... there's a great deal
that hasnt been released to the public, for instance the 'vaccine' in
nasal spray form is in fact the live virus


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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pris is fucking hilarious for de-railing threads.


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: LobsterSauce]
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Jimtown said:
This is the song that never ends


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Neuron]
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Neuron said:
pris is fucking hilarious for de-railing threads.



is the conversation only supposed to apply to cognative_shift?

CS... hope you get better man.

now it's back in topic


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Quote:
pretty much since it's not just old people that die from the flu, often
times there's underlying medical conditions that arent detected, is
there any info on what sort of vaccinations he received at the time of
his 'rigorous physical'


The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.

Quote:
there's a great deal
that hasnt been released to the public, for instance the 'vaccine' in
nasal spray form is in fact the live virus


Vaccines are just a concoction of dead/dying viruses that aren't strong enough to kill us, but allow our immune system to become acquainted with it.

I thought this was common knowledge.

Quote:
when it kills 65k people, let me know, until then lets ask ourselves was
it the flu, was it some underlying issue, was it some shit created by
the medical profession that we call a vaccine


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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Prisoner#1 said:
wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us


Sorry bud, both those organizations stopped counting individual cases, so this entire post is kinda useless.

You are just arguing for fuck's sake. You ignore blatant evidence.


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bigboi86 said:
The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.


are you not understanding any of this?
the flu kills
h1n1 flu kills
the flu kills more people than h1n1 has

if the regular flu kills 30k people in the US each year, 90% of those are not
in the best of health, that means that 3000 of those people are healthy

http://nextbigfuture.com/2009/04/regular-flu-deaths-in-usa-in-2009.html
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There have been 820-987 deaths each week from the regular flu in the 122 cities that are in the center for disease control tracking system.


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Vaccines are just a concoction of dead/dying viruses that aren't strong enough to kill us, but allow our immune system to become acquainted with it.

I thought this was common knowledge.


must be why everyone develops those flu like symptoms that las as long as the flu
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/pubs/vis/downloads/vis-laiv-h1n1.pdf


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bigboi86 said:
Prisoner#1 said:
wait a second

25 deaths from the flu vaccine up to august
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/Swine_flu/article6797993.ece



the WHO reports 1500 deaths in the US from the h1n1 virus up until august
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2009_08_21/en/index.html

while the CDC claims there was only 500 until august
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5834a1.htm

the wiki that was updated today claims 900 in the US, less than 5000 world wide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_flu_pandemic

yet your link shows 300 deaths

who is bullshitting us


Sorry bud, both those organizations stopped counting individual cases, so this entire post is kinda useless.

You are just arguing for fuck's sake. You ignore blatant evidence.


lol... so the World Health Organization and the Centers For Disease Control stopped counting, then why would you cite them
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11238194#11238194

who provides the data for the news and that other link or are they just
fabricating the numbers because it was you that cited a mere 302 people
in the US dead from the h1n1 flu while all these other show far more


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Prisoner#1]
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No, I think that you are not understanding.

The flu kills.
h1n1 kills.
Numbers aren't accurate at this time, but sources state two things;
  • The flu outbreak is worse this year.
  • Most of those flu cases are indeed H1N1.


Here is another fun fact.

This week, 19 children died from the flu. 16 of those children had H1N1.

I have quoted several sources regarding this subject.

If you have any logic, I suggest read more about this, don't just scoff at it and claim it's a fucking hoax dude. It's taking peoples lives, more so than the seasonal flu is and it's affecting a wider range of people, healthy people.

You get my point, if not, oh well. You'll get sick sooner or later.

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lol... so the World Health Organization and the Centers For Disease Control stopped counting, then why would you cite them
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11238194#11238194

who provides the data for the news and that other link or are they just
fabricating the numbers because it was you that cited a mere 302 people
in the US dead from the h1n1 flu while all these other show far more


Because I cited them before I read that they had stopped counting due to the overwhelming amount of cases.

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As the virus quickly spread globally, clinics were overwhelmed by testing and treating patients, and the WHO and the U. S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) eventually stopped counting all cases and focused instead on tracking major outbreaks. In early June 2009, the World Health Organization (WHO) declared the outbreak to be a pandemic, but also noted that most of the illnesses were of moderate severity.

Source: Wikipedia



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o otay

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Nice contribution to the debate.


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bigboi86 said:
Numbers aren't accurate at this time, but sources state two things;
  • The flu outbreak is worse this year.
  • Most of those flu cases are indeed H1N1.



*the media reports state

I can accept a 'numbers arent accurate' but to have a variance of 1300
cases with the WHO reporting the highest, some h1n1 site owned by
someone in the czech republic that hasnt been updated since july being
the lowest yet even with the current information the regular flu kills
an average of more than 700 people per week and the h1n1 strain is
supposed to be so much more devastating? the regular flu season hasnt
even started yet, that's not until mid november
http://whois.domaintools.com/flu-virus.org

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Here is another fun fact.

This week, 19 children died from the flu. 16 of those children had H1N1.




wow... did you know that 13000 people have died from the influenza A
virus from january to april of this year, that's 800 per week, 2 weeks
of it is the equivalent of the total death tol reported in the US for
h1n1 for the entire year

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/04/28/regular.flu/index.html
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# Since January, more than 13,000 have died of complications from seasonal flu



Quote:
I have quoted several sources regarding this subject.



as have I


Quote:
If you have any logic, I suggest read more about this, don't just scoff at it and claim it's a fucking hoax dude. It's taking peoples lives, more so than the seasonal flu is and it's affecting a wider range of people, healthy people.



flu-A has killed more people in shorter time spans this year alone and
they're making a huge deal out of the swine flu, I suggest you do some
reading on something other than what the media is pushing to panic people


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Because I cited them before I read that they had stopped counting due to the overwhelming amount of cases.



lol... overwhelming when they simply pull the data from the CDC, WHO and a couple of other sites, it's called laziness, they simply didnt feel like a weekly update or a daily update... read their data
http://h1n1.flu-virus.org/Cases-.php?in=United%20States


Quote:
Source: Wikipedia



let's look at the numbers from the wiki link, the big lavender sidebar

Worldwide (total) 4,699 +195 (4%)
North America 920‡ +13 (1%)‡

and the fine print
‡The USA introduced a new reporting system on August 30, 2009
in which localities are not required to discern between pandemic and
seasonal flu.[2] Since then, the ECDC has no longer been updating
the USA number.

well... I'm guessing that these new deaths this week may have a little bit of a skew as to what's causing them


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Prisoner, methinks you need a job or a hobby.


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I have a job and a hobby

shroomery.org  :smirk:


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: bigboi86]
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bigboi, I'm in my 40's and have been in close contact with 2
different people that have h1n1 and have yet to come down with it

this bug is no worse than the regular flu
I have been skeptical of this thing from the beginning

there has been way too much hype over it
they are pushing this vaccine way to hard
for my taste and it kinda makes me :paranoid:

I haven't had a flu shot since I left the military 20 years ago and do not feel any special need to now


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: niteowl]
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:lol:  The interwebs is hardcore!

Feeling better today.  Have no energy tho, mostly just sleeping and drinking gatorade.  And smoking lots of weed.


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I hear smoking weed wont make you better, but at least you wont care as much that you're sick


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weed is key

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niteowl said:
I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.



yeah, ok buddy.  what ever you say.  :rolleyes:

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bigboi86 said:
The guy was a 25 year old soldier that had an excellent physical condition. If this virus is as harmless as you all imply, why would there be a need for a vaccine in the first place? Surely the human immune system can fight a new deadly flu strain.


you're a fucking fool buddy, you do realize 250,000 - 5000,000 people die EACH YEAR from the regular flu?

so what's your point?  unless the swine flu ends in a fatal pandemic, I'm NOT getting a vaccine.

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I don't really have much to add to this thread, I just wanted to say that I would like to nominate every H1N1 thread on the Shroomery for "The dumbest and most futile arguments ever."

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Wow, bigboi86. Way to buy into the hype! Oh noes, the flu. We're all going to die.

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my roommate just had swine flu and she was only stuck in bed for like a day, maybe a day and a half. today she's chipper and feeling well. 

last time i had the flu, i was in bed for a week...

sounds to me swine flu is a bunch of malarkey.


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PMasterPoo said:
niteowl said:
I've been sick as fuck for like 3 weeks and I'm starting to become worried. You should too.



yeah, ok buddy.  what ever you say.  :rolleyes:


:dudewtf:


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get well soon niteowl, 3 weeks is a long time to be sick and unworried


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:hehehe:


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:awebig:


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Brugman said:
Wow, bigboi86. Way to buy into the hype! Oh noes, the flu. We're all going to die.


Not buying into any hype. I'm damn sure gonna see a doctor though, as healthy people obviously abruptly die with this virus.


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bigboi86 said:
healthy people obviously abruptly die with this virus.



whaddaya know, the same thing has been happening with the vaccine

but wait... healthy people dont have the virus, sick people do


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Prisoner#1 said:
bigboi86 said:
healthy people obviously abruptly die with this virus.



whaddaya know, the same thing has been happening with the vaccine

but wait... healthy people dont have the virus, sick people do


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bigboi86 said:
Brugman said:
Wow, bigboi86. Way to buy into the hype! Oh noes, the flu. We're all going to die.


Not buying into any hype. I'm damn sure gonna see a doctor though, as healthy people obviously abruptly die with this virus.


good, I hope you die, government leech sucking pos

just kidding................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: PMasterPoo]
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Woke up feeling almost perfect.  A little drained of energy, and my eyes a little swollen which is kinda weird...  But i gotta go to class and shit today, if i sit around and smoke weed all day today, im really gonna be behind...


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Re: I'm H1N1 Positive [Re: Cognitive_Shift]
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you're lucky you survived... if you'd have gone to the doctor you could
have died due to double misdiagnoses regarding the flu... or could it be
that she didnt actually contract it until after the initial tests were run


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