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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: Taco Chef]
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Ayn Rand has so kinky notions about sex :cool: I hink she liked it rough.

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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: Silversoul]
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Silversoul said:
Objectivism is a silver bullet against having a mind of your own.  It inspires the most slavish, cultish devotion amongst those who would most vehemently protest that they are thinking for themselves.  It is almost post-modern in its irony, to such an extent that I would expect to see hipsters wearing Ayn Rand T-shirts.




No, Objectivism is that it goes sharply against 2000 years of Philosophy that espouses collectivism and attacks rational thought and reason as being impotent to know reality. Objectivism teaches one to judge independent by relying on reason as an absolute and induction from the facts of reality as the method of gaining knowledge rather than playing with floating deductive abstractions or soley relying on the concrete bound.

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Please do not put words in my mouth.  It is beneath a "rational" person such as yourself.


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You appeased the morality of Christianity. What words did I put in your mouth?

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And some people choose mental enslavement later on after reading Atlas Shrugged.



They would only be doing so if they chose religion again after realizing the irrationality of its claims and the true nature of its morality. That would require abandoning reason to faith and throwing logic thinking out of the window, evading the known facts.

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Since you have no qualms about insulting religion, please explain to me why I should be any more delicate in my treatment of Objectivism.  I bring up Branden only because he is an example of someone who initially benefited from Objectivism but later transcended it after learning its limitations.  And I agree that "religion" is not an appropriate term.  It is far too generous.  "Cult" would be more appropriate.



Did I 'insult' religion by pointing out its terrible moral code and the atrocities that accepting that morality has had over history? You see, that is the difference between your approach to debate and mine, I refer to the ideas and facts of reality whilst you evade and make slurs about Objectivism that leads away from rational discourse to derail this discussion.

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Yes, Nietzsche had evolved beyond the narrow, linear logic that Rand so dogmatically clung to.



You mean Aristotles logic is too 'linear' for you? Best throw away your computer then and in fact every good thing ever invented using logic. We would still be in the Dark Ages if it were not for this supposidly 'narrow' logic.

As for Neitzsche, he  eventually went crazy and submitted to Mysticism, big deal.

As for any further replies, I think I am done with this section of the Shroomery. Too much bad philosophy is upheld here and the torrent of irrationality is only held slightly in check by those that still consider Aristotle's logic to be relevant.

Shout out to Oregon. Keep up the good work here, at least some sense still exists here while you choose to hang around and amuse yourself.

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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
You mean Aristotles logic is too 'linear' for you? Best throw away your computer then and in fact every good thing ever invented using logic. We would still be in the Dark Ages if it were not for this supposidly 'narrow' logic.



:lol:  Why use a computer?  Are pens and paper too good for you?  Because obviously considering an ancient way of thinking too narrow means that you discount everything that mode of thought has produced.  After all, everything is black and white, right or wrong, etc.  Everyone knows there can never be any conditional or partial truths.

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Shout out to Oregon. Keep up the good work here



My state extends its gratitude for your shoutout.

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As for any further replies, I think I am done with this section of the Shroomery. Too much bad philosophy is upheld here and the torrent of irrationality is only held slightly in check by those that still consider Aristotle's logic to be relevant.



Don't let the door hit you on the way out.  Maybe sometime in the Pub we can talk politics and economics.  Then I can show you where Objectivism fails most epically.


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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
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Yes, Nietzsche had evolved beyond the narrow, linear logic that Rand so dogmatically clung to.



You mean Aristotles logic is too 'linear' for you? Best throw away your computer then and in fact every good thing ever invented using logic. We would still be in the Dark Ages if it were not for this supposidly 'narrow' logic.

As for Neitzsche, he  eventually went crazy and submitted to Mysticism, big deal.

As for any further replies, I think I am done with this section of the Shroomery. Too much bad philosophy is upheld here and the torrent of irrationality is only held slightly in check by those that still consider Aristotle's logic to be relevant.

Shout out to Oregon. Keep up the good work here, at least some sense still exists here while you choose to hang around and amuse yourself.



Wow! Now theres some quick and extremely over simplified responses (conclusions) from ya rationalego, way to go.... at least realize that there is often many ways to look at things. Irrationality and the arts and errors of man have made so much content for us. You seem obsessed with consistency and unifying your supposed comprehension of the world - and how humans should conduct themselves ideally. Seems like such modern arrogance. Objectivism seems too assured of itself in that is possesses absolute truth, a bit too fixated on our human powers. Just what I would expect from a lack luster "genius" whorebag who stole ideas and just spouted some preachy reasons why she and you have to be so absolutely intellectually rational (crude).

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Yeah go away because you are so flabbergasted with this forum, good for you nobody gives a fuck, you do realize youre on the shroomery... is this serious business that you start a thread and you cant pay attntion to it until it dies hmmmm...


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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: Taco Chef]
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novumorganum said:
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There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.






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Re: Ayn Rand: The Destroyer Of Christianity [Re: RationalEgo]
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RationalEgo said:
Discuss this video. Do you think this is perhaps the best refutation of Christianity yet espoused?





This video was primarily about Catholics and not about Jews or Muslims


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