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Mixing spawn!
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What up, this is a two part question?

So check it out. I just finished my g2g transfers and have 2 B+, and one Koh Samui pint jar.

I was wondering if you could mix two strains in the same tray? 2B+ and 1KS for ex.

And if you think three pint jars is enough to fill an aluminum baking tray.


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Edited by FlyingMonk (09/27/09 11:33 AM)

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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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so you have 3 pints of fully colonized spawn? 2b+ and one KS?

the two distinctly different cultures will colonize the sub at different speeds, different temps, different patterns, etc

its probably not a great idea to mix spawn of different strains


and what size is your baking tray? how much substrate are you working with also?


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Edited by just me (09/27/09 11:43 AM)

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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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Really.  Damn, this upsets me. Well what about just using two b+ pints in one aluminum baking pan. Do you think that would be enough spawn for a whole tray.

Its the big rectangle aluminum pan.

And I have three pints of colonized rye.


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Edited by FlyingMonk (09/27/09 11:47 AM)

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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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use trays that work for the amounts of spawn/sub you have

two pints is PLENTY for a 1'sq(roughly) baking tray

so your remaining pint would be plenty for one of those....8"pie tins...:shrug:


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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Just curious. What are the benefits of using more spawn?

Is itt bigger fruits?

More flushes?

Both?

So if two pints is big enough for a big tray. Then one quart would be plenty as well. If thats the case. I've been using more spawn in my trays then necessary.


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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both, more nutrients, faster colonization, etc

what size is ur tray? around that 1'sq mark?

1 quart. 2 pints. 3 brf cakes :shrug:

all sound like enough

if you had to guess on your previous trays, whats your spawn to sub ratio?


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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more spawn takes less time to colonize the sub. the more spawn that you have, then the more contact points are available for the spawn to be touched by

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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: anakin3197]
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my trays are this big. this is my last grow.



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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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2pints is plenty for those

nice PE's!


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
    #11137924 -

Really. Sweet. Thanks, I believe that was my third flush of the PE's. Im gonna start a tray first thing tommorow now. Thanks for the help! :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2: for you. :headbanger:


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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no worries bruddah

your colonization times might be a little slower, but i think at some point the super high spawn rates become counter productive


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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just me said:
but i think at some point the super high spawn rates become counter productive


Please explain....?


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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have you ever tried to fruit cased grain?
the mushrooms are tiny, and pinset is kinda lame

of course the more spawn you use, the faster your colonization will be, but the result will be small fruits and mediocre flushes


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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I wan BIG flushes =)


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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3:1 or 2:1 seems like the perfect ratios

being 3/2 parts of substrate
      1/1 part spawn


:shrug:


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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this confuses me 3:1 being 3 parts substrate 1 part casing. sorry dude. im a fuckin newb I know. Right now im in the process of making my first LC and my first MS Syringe. Wish me luck!! I really appreciate your help though. Im gonna make a note to contact you after my first flush and send you some free prints!


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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i jar spawn to 3 jars or bulk like poo or coir i do 1jar spawn 2 jars bulk just because it colonized faster


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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no, 1 part spawn.

so a 3:1 would be (and the sizes can vary. as not everyone will have quart jars, or filterpatch bags etc.)

3quarts of sub to: 1quart of spawn(colonized grain, brf cakes, etc.)

smaller?
3 cups of sub to: 1 1/2 pint brf jar

larger?
6quarts of sub to: 2quarts of spawn

etc etc


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: just me]
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that seems like alot too me. on my last grow. i had about an 1 1/2 of spawn. my casing was about the same. an inch thick or so.


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Re: Mixing spawn! [Re: FlyingMonk]
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casing is a layer of hydrated medium applied over a fully colonized substrate to help induce pinning and keep moisture in/around the fruiting area


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