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You are probably leaving something out.

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Sombie said:

I don't really have one, except that supporting the public option is not a radical leftist socialist, possibly communist view that some on this board claim it is.

But rather an intelligent way to cut cost, save people money and getting everyone insured.

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Sombie said:

And you like Pokemon, so I guess we are even?


Is this really the kind of rational, intelligent debate we have here over at the shroomery forum?

Really showing off our class for any non-friendlies who might be lurking.

Edit: I am only talking about Chombuss here, not you other two who while you were quick to disagree were not classless.

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Sombie said:

I can't believe I am saying this, but go Bill O'Reilly

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Sombie said:

Well you don't want to get into the debate but I'll leave it at this:

We spend at least 50% more then any other nation per capita (that means per person) on our healthcare, yet we don't have the whole nation insured like they do, and we don't have better medical outcomes either.

So when young people get sick or hurt they go the an ER, get charged over a thousand dollars, can't pay and then that is passed on to the American Tax Payer.

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It would be far more cost efficient to adopt any of the other systems that would insure everyone so they wouldn't have to go to ERs in the first place (thanks to much cheaper preventative care).

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But thats not the point here. The point is that its not a communist/marxist/socialist/radical leftist/whatever idea.

Or at least its not once you let yourself stop thinking of everything in a "left / right" fashion.

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Consider that during the last economic downturn, which was not nearly as severe as our current one—the ranks of the uninsured increased by 6.5 million. Many of those people were able to get needed health care only through safety net health systems. In April 2009, the Federal Reserve Board of Governors projected that the economy could shrink by 1.3 to 2.0 percent in 2009 (using a fourth quarter to fourth quarter comparison) and that unemployment could soar to anywhere between 9.2 and 9.6 percent thus increasing the ranks of the uninsured, those served most by safety net health systems.

As providers of universal access, we know the great potential of providing universal coverage through health care reform.  With the support of policymakers, safety net health systems will continue to provide universal access to the uninsured and underinsured until and after they can be brought into the general health care system. If and when universal coverage is a reality, America’s safety net health systems will become a critical partner in improving health outcomes for at-risk populations and economic value for society.

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