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"Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus.
    #2419079 - 03/11/04 02:35 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3500388.stm
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The US House of Representatives has voted 276-139 for a bill that would prevent lawsuits against the food industry for making people fat.
The so-called Cheeseburger Bill bans frivolous lawsuits against producers and sellers of food and non-alcoholic drinks arising from obesity claims.

The bill supporters say consumers have to realise they cannot blame others for the consequences of their actions.

Critics say the food industry now does not have to worry about public health.


The vote came a day after a new study said obesity was likely to become the nation's biggest preventable killer, overtaking smoking.

The study found that poor diet and lack of exercise caused 400,000 deaths in the US in the year 2000 - a 33% jump since 1990.

Two thirds of US adults and nine million children are either overweight or obese, the study said.

'Insane lawsuits'

On Wednesday House Majority leader Tom DeLay praised the passage of the bill, which is formally called the Personal Responsibility in Food Consumption Act.

After the vote he said "Ronald McDonald made me do it" should never be considered the basis for a lawsuit.

The bill's sponsor, Florida Republican Representative Ric Keller, said the legislation was all about "common sense and personal responsibility".

The first US fast food lawsuit was filed in 2002 by a New Yorker who blamed his frequent visits to McDonald's for his obesity and diabetes.

Since then, there have been a number of similar cases across the country.

The new bill has also the backing of the White House and much of the food industry.

"This issue isn't about any restaurant or any particular food, it's all about personal responsibility and individual decisions," McDonald's spokesperson Lisa Howard said in a prepared statement.

'Wrong message'

But mostly Democratic critics - who have the support of a number of consumer groups - argued that the courts, not Congress, should determine when "obesity" lawsuits were frivolous.

They pointed out that all the lawsuits had been eventually dismissed.

Opponents also said the bill a clear signal to the food industry that it did not have to worry about the public health.

"That's the wrong message," said Democrat Representative James McGovern.

The bill still has to be approved by the Senate. In the past senators have blocked measures to protect certain industries from lawsuits.




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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: daussaulit]
    #2419114 - 03/11/04 02:41 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: daussaulit]
    #2419153 - 03/11/04 02:53 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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But mostly Democratic critics - who have the support of a number of consumer groups - argued that the courts, not Congress, should determine when "obesity" lawsuits were frivolous.



I have to agree with this. There may be a lot of frivolous lawsuits in this country, but that should be for the courts to decide, not Congress.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: silversoul7]
    #2419213 - 03/11/04 03:11 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Tha laws are there to protect ma people. And ma people are not eating cheeseburgers, ma people are buying franchises and setting up burger joints in crack neighbourhoods. Ma people shouldn't be at legal risk by making more money than they could ever possibly spend, from a poor, weak, and lesser class. These people are a parasite on the credit ratings of millionaires everywhere. How dare they endanger my next yacht with their frivolous law suites.

As of this day, no impartial judge can rule against my brothers and sisters. We have made it so we are one step more safe. Free from concern over illegitimate, and lets face it, defematious claims.


BULL SHIT!

Sure, people shouldn't gorge themselves like they do, but many that are bringing cases before the justice system have legitimate basis for filing. People win smoking cases. People like Erin Brokovich win toxic cases. People should be able to try forcing McD's to own up to its unhealthy food preps.

Just like when Homer "saved" Lenny's life by knocking that egg out of his hand, one McMeal isn't enough to be considered cause of death 20 years from now. But when someone eats 2 meals a day at McD's, and isn't given any warning whatsoever about the health risks involved with that product and that behaviour, McD's is already way worse than the tobacco company that (is forced, let's remember, to) puts ingredient lists and Health Canada warning labels on packs.

McD's lies about it's products to the detriment of it's patrons health. The fact that the government thinks it has the right to step in and tell people what they can and can't sue for is yet another reason why the police states of america is worse than Nazi Germany ever was.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2419305 - 03/11/04 03:30 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

I think people who sue other people for making them fat should have to pay McDonnalds tons of money to pay for their lawyers.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2419378 - 03/11/04 03:44 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Nobody's forcing fat slothful fucks to gorge their whiny faces with empty calories. Consumers decide whether or not to buy the products that McDonalds and others offer. If consumers don't buy the products, McDonalds and others will respond to the lack of demand and remove the products from their menus.

WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY? Those who choose to smoke and lead otherwise unhealthy lifestyles have no one to blame but themselves. To compare cases of toxic dumping and pollution affecting those who have made no choice in the matter with those who suffer from the consequences from their own actions is bullshit.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food In [Re: daussaulit]
    #2419380 - 03/11/04 03:45 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

Some news on moves being made in the UK:

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Battle of the bulge plans dismissed as wimpy

Roxanne Escobales and agencies
Thursday March 11, 2004
The Guardian

Politicians and campaigners have condemned the action plan to fight child obesity put forward today by the nation's food safety watchdog as "not tough enough" and warned that it will fail.

The Food Standards Agency (FSA) met today in London to finalise proposals for the government, schools and the food industry to help curb the rising weight of youngsters.

The FSA chairman, Sir John Krebs, said: "Children are bombarded with messages that promote food high in fat, salt and sugar. The evidence shows that these messages do influence children. Eating too much of these foods is storing up health problems for their future. The Food Standards Agency wants healthier choices to be promoted to children."

Yet critics believe its draft action plan does not go far enough in devising measures for enforcing good practice among food producers and advertisers and setting up helpful and realistic labelling terms.

The initiatives set out in today's strategy include developing guidelines for the food industry to reduce the amount of fat, sugar and salt in foods and agreeing guidelines for health labels on food. The scheme suggests the FSA name and shame companies that do not follow guidelines.

Other points of action include working with schools to get healthier options onto canteen menus and into campus vending machines.

Celebrities, including sports stars and popular TV and radio performers, would be called on to promote healthy foods.

The draft plan, however, does not propose a ban on junk food advertising during children's television programming. The FSA opted for the softer language of advising the broadcast regulator Ofcom and the advertising industry to "address the imbalance in TV advertising of food to children".

The Liberal Democrats' health spokesman Paul Burstow described the draft action plan as "a step in the right direction" but said "it isn't tough enough to attack the root causes of the nation's expanding waistlines. The question the FSA has to answer is how long it will be prepared to wait before recommending a more interventionist approach.

"Pursuing the voluntary route first and promoting personal responsibility to tackle obesity is the soft option. The FSA will have to ask itself whether it will really make the sort of difference that is now becoming a matter of life and death."

The British Retail Consortium's food policy director, Richard Ali, said: "What we need are policies that encourage consumers to choose a balanced diet. We will continue to caution against any artificial segregation of foods into 'good' or 'bad'. Such wrong thinking has no scientific underpinning and could lead to a further fall in iron or calcium if meat or cheese were targeted."

Charlie Powell, project officer at food and farming campaign group Sustain, said: "Since the FSA first decided to look at this issue in September 2000, most in the junk food and ads industry have systematically objected to any measure which might restrict their capacity to promote junk foods to children.

"The FSA's action plan will fail because industry is not capable of acting voluntarily on this issue. To protect their health, we urgently need statutory controls to prevent companies from promoting unhealthy foods to children."

The most up-to-date figures show 15% of 15 year-olds in England and 9% of six-year-olds are obese - treble the number 20 years ago.

The average child in the UK watches the equivalent of 217 commercials a week. Figures from the FSA show 40% of advertisements during children's TV are for food, of which 70% are for sweets, fast food, breakfast cereals with added sugar, savoury snacks and soft drinks.




It's an interesting contrast. This article seems to indicate that some politicians in the UK want to regulate the industry to help combat obesity. Some US politicians from the parent article seem to have moved straight past prevention and into protecting the industry from a possible consumer backlash.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: Evolving]
    #2419422 - 03/11/04 03:51 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

The tobacco cases were valid because of fraud on the part of the tobacco companies. McDonnalds never claimed their burgers were fat free and would make your hair shiny.


Accurate nutritional information has been available for anyone who was interested.


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2419636 - 03/11/04 04:42 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

yeah maccas sux,i went there last week and ordered a meal with coke and the stupid bitch grabs me a straw from under the counter after handling money at the till :thumbdown:
we aussies are getting ripped off with this large portion thing,our great leaders have put "our" health first and decided that small portions at the same price as your large portions are better for our health
I'D RATHER FUCKING DECIDE


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Re: "Cheeseburger Bill" approved protection for fast food Indus. [Re: recalcitrant]
    #2420284 - 03/11/04 08:01 PM (12 years, 8 months ago)

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McD's lies about it's products to the detriment of it's patrons health. The fact that the government thinks it has the right to step in and tell people what they can and can't sue for is yet another reason why the police states of america is worse than Nazi Germany ever was.




If someone thinks that Mcd's food is healthy, the gene pool is better off for their demise.


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