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Short-Stalked White Russula?
    #10929526 - 08/24/09 10:22 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Habitat: Central NJ USA. Currently fruiting in groups in a variety of habitats, but generally under oaks.
Gills: Attached. White to very light cream/light pink; aging brown
Stem: 1-5cm long, 1-3cm wide, white, smooth, solid.
Cap: White. 5-25cm diamete. White, smooth, convex; aging brown
Spore print color: Same color as the spores: white to very light cream/light pink.
Bruising: None
Taste: Neutral; perhaps very slightly bitter.
Other information: Gregariously clustered. Aging brown.

My best guess is Russula brevipes.





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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10929562 - 08/24/09 10:26 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

That is Russula brevipes.

They had one at the Senguio, Michoacan, Mexico fungus fair the other day that was about a foot across.  Sometimes Hypomyces lactifluorum parasitizes uthe huge ones and makes massive lobster mushrooms.

Its good to eat.

For Russula ID's its always important to include the taste of the mushroom.  Should be mild.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10929673 - 08/24/09 10:43 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I've seen some of those on my last hunt that would devour your face that was how big the caps were on some, too bad they were infested with ants.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #10929695 - 08/24/09 10:46 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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That is Russula brevipes.

They had one at the Senguio, Michoacan, Mexico fungus fair the other day that was about a foot across.  Sometimes Hypomyces lactifluorum parasitizes uthe huge ones and makes massive lobster mushrooms.

Its good to eat.

For Russula ID's its always important to include the taste of the mushroom.  Should be mild.



Thank you Mr. Rockefeller!

They're so plentiful that I was hoping it was edible. I went hunting today and literally saw hundreds of them. Last rainfall it was boletes, this rainfall it's these russulas.. they're currently dominating the "shroomscape."

Now if we could just convince Mr. Hypomyces to leave my beloved boletes alone and parasitize these russulas, I'd be a happy hunter.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10930384 - 08/25/09 12:24 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

i went out in central nj and i never saw so many russulae and lactarius in my life!!! i was hoping to find a lobster out of all of the Russula brevipes. even my mom brought 2 home for me from her walk. i will post my lactarious in a bit. from what i got Russula brevipes is eatable but not very good.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10930538 - 08/25/09 12:46 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

I found a huge patch of these over the weekend but hadn't had the time to try and ID them. So they are edible huh? Has anyone eaten them, and if so, are they any good?


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: amilibertine]
    #10930581 - 08/25/09 12:52 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

from just reading ive read thyre not too great. but thats no personal experience


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10931515 - 08/25/09 03:02 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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from just reading ive read thyre not too great. but thats no personal experience



Is tofu good or too bland? Is a top round roast good or too tough? Are habanero peppers good or too hot? IMO, it depends on the skill of the chef.

I was once told that a certain bolete was highly acidic and therefore not very good. So, I stir-fried it with some shrimp, and the acidity balanced out the fishiness wonderfully; I didn't need a drop of lemon.

I say taste the mushroom, understand its inherent flavor, and then decide how best to prep it, cook it, what foods with which it best pairs.

ps bmarley if you live in Jersey you must also be seeing these mushrooms by the dozens.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10932079 - 08/25/09 04:43 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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tangoking said:
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bmarley3434 said:
from just reading ive read thyre not too great. but thats no personal experience



Is tofu good or too bland? Is a top round roast good or too tough? Are habanero peppers good or too hot? IMO, it depends on the skill of the chef.

I was once told that a certain bolete was highly acidic and therefore not very good. So, I stir-fried it with some shrimp, and the acidity balanced out the fishiness wonderfully; I didn't need a drop of lemon.

I say taste the mushroom, understand its inherent flavor, and then decide how best to prep it, cook it, what foods with which it best pairs.

ps bmarley if you live in Jersey you must also be seeing these mushrooms by the dozens.




Good post!


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #10932743 - 08/25/09 09:22 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

yea man those russula and lactarius were everywhere! so much abundance.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10932796 - 08/25/09 09:41 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

let me know tangoking if you eat it and what kind of recpie you used. thanks!


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: Chaos_ultt]
    #10933186 - 08/25/09 11:53 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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tangoking said:
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bmarley3434 said:
from just reading ive read thyre not too great. but thats no personal experience



Is tofu good or too bland? Is a top round roast good or too tough? Are habanero peppers good or too hot? IMO, it depends on the skill of the chef.

I was once told that a certain bolete was highly acidic and therefore not very good. So, I stir-fried it with some shrimp, and the acidity balanced out the fishiness wonderfully; I didn't need a drop of lemon.

I say taste the mushroom, understand its inherent flavor, and then decide how best to prep it, cook it, what foods with which it best pairs.

ps bmarley if you live in Jersey you must also be seeing these mushrooms by the dozens.




Good post!





I second that .... great comment :thumbup:  lol I just made up some Cuitlacoche the other day and my friend tasted it raw and told me there is no way it could ever taste good but when I got done with it the funky flaver was dancing on our palates.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10933244 - 08/25/09 12:10 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10935856 - 08/25/09 07:13 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

As opposed to most grocery foods, there's a lot of "uncharted territory" for cooking wild mushrooms. For example, take any vegetable; say a bell pepper, and there are some generally accepted ways of preparing it that are good. Like most vegetables, you can slice it, dice it, and cook it in a variety of ways; however, bell peppers also have the property of being hollow in the middle. This leads to stuffed peppers.

Wild mushrooms have lots of interesting properties, but the recipes are not well established. I'm still trying to come up with a recipe that really shows off the beauty of a chicken mushroom. I'll take a picture of my next attempt: I think that it is beautiful.

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let me know tangoking if you eat it and what kind of recpie you used. thanks!



Hey bmarely I ate a small one tonight and I feel fine. Just to test it, I sliced it about 0.5cm thick and seared it in olive oil on each side.

The flavor was mild, perhaps a tiny bit bitter, but the texture was excellent. I'm going to experiment with different cooking techniques for this mushroom. My first inclination is to marinade it in something for a few hours before cooking, but I have a couple of other cool ideas.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10937739 - 08/25/09 11:24 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

awesome. let me know how marinating it works. after last weeks ringless honey mushrooms i wanted to throw them up out of me for 2 days. i didnt get any stomach problem from them, it just felt gross inside. i mean they are parasites! it definately brought my morale down and my boundary up.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10937878 - 08/25/09 11:53 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

NEGATIVE on these mushrooms. I just tossed my cookies.

At least for me. I ate them with dinner. About 3-4 hours later I got a sour stomach, and got that I-need-to-puke feeling.

I decided that a "preemptive strike" was in order, and stuck my finger down my throat. I figured that something wasn't agreeing with me, why let it stay in my system a minute longer?

I ate it with some curry and spinach; but I don't think that they were at fault. I do think that it was the mushroom because it was not at all digested after several hours in my stomach.

Feel fine now.

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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10940380 - 08/26/09 11:08 AM (12 years, 3 months ago)

aw man. way to just go for it! i felt like doing that with the honey mushrooms but im not much of an adventurous vomit inducer. i find that a way to tell what made me sick is to think about the spinach. see if your stomach feels fine about it. then think about the mushrooms. if you get a sick feeling that usually is your culprit.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10940707 - 08/26/09 12:44 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

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bmarley3434 said:i find that a way to tell what made me sick is to think about the spinach. see if your stomach feels fine about it. then think about the mushrooms. if you get a sick feeling that usually is your culprit.



That's a great idea and it works! I thought about the spinach--no reaction. The chick pea curry? No reaction. The thought of eating another brevepis makes me want to run for the backyard.

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bmarley3434 said:im not much of an adventurous vomit inducer.



L O L.. Neither am I.

Thanks to my late college professor for teaching me how to test mushrooms. He always said to eat just a bite or two and then WAIT. I understand now that he'd been through this. I just ate on small mushroom--the smallest mushroom in the picture--and that did it. Had I eaten the big one I would have been in bad shape.

I'm going to report it to NAMA just for their records.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: tangoking]
    #10940729 - 08/26/09 12:49 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

channa masala is one of my favorite dishes to make! i love to cook curry. ive always wanted to make my wild eatable finds not too exotic so i can taste the mushroomy flavor. never in curries or anything.

so i guess its safe to say:  rule of thumb if the mushroom tastes bitter, no chef skills necessary, find another mushroom! hah

and that self diagnose stomach test really does work. its great to find out what your body doesnt like to eat.


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Re: Short-Stalked White Russula? [Re: bmarley3434]
    #10966116 - 08/30/09 03:01 PM (12 years, 3 months ago)

Follow-up email on my poisoning report:

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NAMA said:
Thank you for the report. "Russula brevipes" is actually a complex of many highly similar species. They do not usually caused any trouble, nor are they considered much worth eating.





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