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Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum
    #10142785 - 04/10/09 02:23 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Hello to my beautiful people of Shroomery.

My father has been diagnosed with Liver Cancer and I have been finding countless research results on the benefits of Reishi/Ganoderma Lucidum.

I am currently searching for Reishi mushrooms. I do not really believe in pills and feel the best means for my father to get full benefits from the mushroom is to get them whole and make a my own tea/extract. Any help will be greatly appreciated by me and the positive forces of this world.

Please feel free to PM me with any helpful information/tips

Blessings

Angel

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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: angelocean]
    #10144680 - 04/10/09 07:56 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

This thread was moved from Advanced Mycology.


If you were on the west coast, I'd say check with Asian markets.  In your location, I wouldn't know where to check unless there's an Asian grocery store in one of the larger cities.  If you want to learn to grow them, check the gourmet and medicinal forum, which is where I'm moving your thread to.
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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10144757 - 04/10/09 08:10 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

If you want to try your hand at cultivating them i would hook you up with a nice strong culture.


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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: InfiniteOhms]
    #10145584 - 04/10/09 10:41 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Sorry you Dad is sick. I totally agree that pills and elixirs are bullshit.  I just chew it. Tastes kind of bitter, and the action on the tastebuds, is a large part of how it works.

Bitter tasting things are particularly good for the liver.

If you're in or near a major city, you can buy it in Chinatown.  You didn't say where you are, (though Roger can somehow tell).    IF you say where you are, locals can help with specific knowledge.

Get some cordyceps and shitake while you're at it. Almost all mushrooms have some anti-cancer effects. Also they tend to lessen the side-effects of chemo and radiation and both preserve the integrity of the immune system and speed it's recovery.

My friend bought three reishi in Chinatown for about twenty bucks. If you go to Chinatown or an Asian Market take a picture of it with you, because it's called something different in different languages and dialects.  A good color picture is the most reliable way to get what you want.

I'm sure you can buy it at greater expense here on the net, and some people here on this site grow it, but I don't know if in quantity.

I lost may Dad to cancer, after watching my sister struggle vainly to save him.  The strain of her fervor to save him made his death worse for everyone, her most of all. This is why I say the following:

Your gentle efforts and the love you show will improve the quality of his time and maybe it's duration.  It is VERY IMPORTANT that you not take on the responsibility for SAVING him, and with it a sense of guilt and failure if this disease takes him, sooner,  instead of something else taking him later, as must happen to us all at sometime in the future.

Do what you can, gently and with love, and let it be as it will be.

Be good to yourself as you are to him.

Jef


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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: Jef]
    #10148299 - 04/11/09 03:09 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

Shiitake might even be a better choice, although harder to grow.  Shiitake reduces tumor size.
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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #10167317 - 04/14/09 09:01 PM (14 years, 10 months ago)

You may also want to read up on PSK. Its found in Trametes versicolor a very common polypore.

A quick search on ebay brought up these results.

100G Sliced Dry Wild Reishi - $7.99

Dry Sliced Red Reishi Mushroom - 1 lb - $12.99

Reishi Spore Powder(500g) - $32.88

As RR stated, shiitake is also a good medicine. They are also easy to find in most grocery stores. Though the ones in the average grocery store are probably less potent than ones grown from a good strain.


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Re: Searching for Reishi - Ganoderma Lucidum (moved) [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #10176652 - 04/16/09 09:04 AM (14 years, 9 months ago)

Ganoderma tsugae, practically and chemically indistinguishable from G. lucidum, grows in the US on hemlocks. I saw it in the woods many times. The hemlock is always pretty dead when it fruits.

I don't know what is the source of reishi sold on ebay, but if it is wild, I'd only consume it as a tea/extract. Wild reishi I see are always covered by blue-green algae (= photosynthesizing bacteria) and often infested with microscopic insects. That's just what is visible to the naked eye.

In addition, to get to the medicinal polysaccharides in the mushroom, those tough cell walls must be broken somehow, and a human digestive process just ain't gonna cut it, especially if the person is ill. I saw on the net a couple of papers that dealt with hot water extraction of polysaccharides from reishi, and in both it was determined that 4-5 hours of simmering (forgot the actual temp, ~65-80C -?) was optimal. Simply brewing it like tea for 15-min or even half an hour is not enough to get the full benefit. If I remember correctly, 3 hours was minimum and after 5 hours you reach the point of diminishing returns.

In any rate, if you buy dried mushrooms in Asian markets, never consume them "raw". They are meant to be simmered in teas/soups/brews that would neutralize the unhygienic manner in which they are stored and delivered to the US.


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